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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Joe Offer Date: 19 Nov 22 - 10:04 PM I've been a religious person all my life, but I've always been careful to not let my religion push anyone away. And I'm still bothered by this song for that reason. How about this?
GOD'S COUNTING ON ME (Lorre Wyatt) When we look and we can see things are not what they should be You're counting on me, I'm counting on you When we look and we see things are not what they should be You're counting on me, I'm counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. It's time to turn things around, trickle up not trickle down You're counting on me, I'm counting on you It's time to turn things around, trickle up not trickle down You're counting on me, I'm counting on you Hopin' ...& c. And when "drill, baby, drill" leads to "spill, baby, spill" Many wrong turns we have made; change the course, don't be afraid Don't give up don't give in, workin' together we all can win There's big problems to be solved, let's get everyone involved What we do now, you and me, will affect eternity When we sing with younger folks, we can never give up hope ALTERNATE VERSE: Don't give up don't give in, there's a better world to win ALTERNATE TITLE: God's Counting on Me, God's Counting on You |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 10 Aug 11 - 03:59 PM A couple of notes on the song: One, I have added a verse: Our mother's got a fever; we must do our best to save her, She's counting on me, she's counting on you. and another: Hey, climate change denier, my dog's IQ is higher; God's counting on me, she's counting on you And today I'm going to be leading songs at a JOBS, NOT CUTS rally in Oakland, and I'll bring this song along to teach the crowd, to add to "This Little Light of Mine," "We Shall Not Be Moved," "We shall overcome," and so on... |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: GUEST Date: 06 Dec 10 - 04:26 PM Is it really important to debate the use of "god" in this song?? I love the use of "god" in this song because it helps inspire people to a spiritual connection with one another and the humanity we share. Hey Spook - Love your Verse!!! Yes when Push comes to shove Maybe the hand we need is Love Your my boy Spook!!!!! Matt - formerly of NJ now in Alb NM |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: EBarnacle Date: 06 Sep 10 - 12:20 AM For example, "Earth's counting... or Geah's counting... or the World's counting, etc." |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: EBarnacle Date: 06 Sep 10 - 12:10 AM This song is very much still a work in progress. Even though he has recorded it, the words are not yet set in stone. Pete is very much a deist and has always been. Let it evolve and don't be afraid to change things to suit your needs and to use the song as a Zipper song, adding other ideas as needed. |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wya From: Stringsinger Date: 05 Sep 10 - 03:58 PM I would have preferred not to have god mentioned in the song. Pete has been lately into religious references. He exhorts us to read Leviticus in his latest rewrite on "Where Have All The Flowers Gone". I think this is a dreadful mistake as Leviticus is one of the worst in the bible for it's authoritarian meanness. But Pete Seeger could sing the phone book and make it sound good. |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Art Thieme Date: 05 Sep 10 - 12:38 PM Paraphrasing John F. Kennedy, who was himself paraphrasing someone else, 'We move forward knowing, that God's work must truly be our own.' Given that so many good people think God works this way, it becomes truly accurate to say that, for those, God is counting on them to do the right things. That's how I see this good song. Art |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Sep 10 - 05:12 PM The "theology" of the song is yet another human effort to make sense out of hoomin beans' relationship with God (or any other all-powerful concept more powerful than hoomins is). It reduces "God" to a hoomin-like being who would actually count on us. In other words, it makes God a character on our own level because we cannot really wrap our heads around any other level but out own. The God I know does not "count on us," but He does expect us to handle the crap we ourselves create out of the gifts we have received. The song is an effort also to flip folk's thinking away from "why does God allow this" and towards "why do WE allow it," which is a pretty good statement of the "right relationship" between the creator and the created.... an effort to put responsibility (and thus positive power) into the hands of the people who can DO something about the ills they (we) have created. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Aug 10 - 09:46 PM Seed old friend, no one is asking for any apology of any sort. Mystic connections are fine with me as is almost any form of belief (or lack thereof) that makes people feel good including yours, Joe's, Ebbie's, and mine. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Ebbie Date: 14 Aug 10 - 09:13 PM Frankly, I too prefer 'world'-, because to me it implies a greater responsibility that we bear. |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: chazkratz Date: 14 Aug 10 - 09:07 PM To me it's the same thing: I am (we are) made of the substance of this world and I (we) depend upon this world for my (our) existence--and if I feel a mystic connection between myself and ourselves and this world I won't apologize for it. Charles |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Aug 10 - 06:55 PM There ya' go! Good on ya' Ebbie! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Ebbie Date: 14 Aug 10 - 03:11 PM The World's counting on me, the world's counting on you... |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Joe Offer Date: 14 Aug 10 - 12:41 AM I get leery about "proofs" for the existence of God, or for stuff in the Bible. When it comes to "proving" stuff like that, what becomes important is proving that you know the truth and somebody else doesn't. Seems to me that it works better to have more of what I'd call an intuitive knowledge of God. I experience God in my life, and that's good for me. Other people don't experience God and they get along just fine, and that's good for them. They and I may experience the same things - but we experience them differently. Vive la difference! -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: catspaw49 Date: 13 Aug 10 - 10:58 PM Already suggested in that way by Joe and that's fine....."Non-Interventionist God" ......... I don't buy that any more than I buy the "Interventionist God" or the "No God at All".................a proof source would help. I understand the song but wonder what is wrong with simply saying we need to count on each other and on ourselves? I'm sure you are right about Pete Seeger but I expect that line from a Parsley or Swaggart or someone like that rather than Seeger. It may be a great song but as I sad, it turns me off even if I know how it is meant. I never claimed to have good taste(;<)) Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: GUEST,spookhandy Date: 13 Aug 10 - 10:33 PM ABOUT THIS "GOD" THING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE COMMENTING ABOUT. Pete has a simple philosphy about God - if I am correct. (I hope you will leave room in your thinking that I might actually be wrong about this, but here is my understanding from what I know of him.) Pete's belief is that "God" - whatever that is - doesn't want us to simply pray or even pray at all for "him" or 'her" or "it" to do anything for us. Instead, "God" - whatever that is - gave us the brains and the wherewithall to solve our own problems. (I happen to feel similarly.) So, in this song, "God's counting on me. God's counting on you" means precisely the opposite of what commenters who took issue with the word "God" thought he meant. Knowing Pete and listening to this song, it means this to me: Don't sit back and pray for "God" to take our troubles away. If you pray at all, do as President Obama suggested. Pray that we find the courage in ourselves to face the challenges we need to face. Because in the end it's really up to me and you. Instead of us counting on "God" for the problem TO BE SOLVED, consider the possibility that God's counting on me and you to GET INVOLVED!!! How's that? That's my take. - Spook Handy :-> |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: GUEST,Charles Kratz Date: 13 Aug 10 - 09:12 AM Oh, and by the way, "eternity" is involved here, relatively speaking. Not an eternity of flitting around heaven with our harps, but a continuation of human society on earth. Charles |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: GUEST,Charles Kratz Date: 13 Aug 10 - 09:05 AM When I taught this song yesterday to the folks at the Brain Injury center where I volunteer, I pointed out that the chorus is a continuation of the refrain of the verse: God's countin' on me, God's countin' on you, hopin' we'll all come through... For me, God is the earth, of whose substance we all are made, and I sang the chorus part of the time as "She's hopin' we'll all come through..." I'm sorry if that offends you, Pat. I think it's a wonderful, very singable song, one which can rally a crowd--maybe a "We Shall Overcome" for our time and our situation. It's obvious we need that kind of inspiration--folks just don't seem to get how desperate our situation is. Charles |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: 'God's Countin' on Me'--Pete Seeger From: GUEST,Charles Kratz Date: 13 Aug 10 - 03:59 AM Damned if I know how I lost my cookie this time--no change of or reinstalling of system. But happy to see that the 'cat is set up to handle chord placement over lines. C. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: 'God's Countin' on Me'--Pete Seeger From: GUEST,Charles Kratz Date: 13 Aug 10 - 03:48 AM A couple of weeks ago I got an email from a friend with a link to Pete Seeger performing a new song, "God's Countin' on Me, God's Countin' on You," that he wrote with Lorre Wyatt. The song, inspired by the Gulf oil spill and the current economic crisis, seems to me to be a fine political folk anthem of the kind you can make up verses on the fly to fit the situation. Pete performed it in the key of F, but I transposed it into D for my vocal range and for the fiddlers and mando players in my jams. Here it is: GOD'S COUNTIN' ON ME, GOD'S COUNTIN' ON YOU By Lorre Wyatt and Pete Seeger D When we look and we can see Things that should not be A7 God's countin' on me D God's countin' on you (Repeat verse) D G D A7 Hopin' we'll all pull through D F#7 Bm Hopin' we'll all pull through G D A7 Hopin' we'll all pull through D Me and you It's time to turn things around Trickle up not trickle down Don't give up, don't give in, There's a better world to win And when drill, baby, drill Turns to spill, baby, spill There's big problems to be solved, Let's get everyone involved When we sing with younger folks We can never give up hope Additional verses from YouTube version: Many wrong turns we have made Change the course, don't be afraid]] What we do now, you and me Will affect eternity And here are a couple of verses I've added: When the banks have all the bucks And the people are out of luck When they give us endless war We've gotta show them all the door Charles |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: GUEST,Steven Rodman Date: 09 Aug 10 - 03:02 PM The official lyrics to "God's Counting on Me, God's Counting on You" by Lorre and Pete Seeger are posted on Lorre's website: lorrewyatt.com |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Uncle Phil Date: 01 Aug 10 - 03:38 PM Thanks for the second video. It is a fine song. And may we all be out there and still getting it done when we are 91. - Phil |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: autoharpbob Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:46 AM A good song - as evidenced by the fact that even though nobody in the audience had heard it before, they were all singing along with the chorus by the second time through - in harmony! |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:29 AM You don't have to believe in a God to know a good song. This is a good song. I have another version of it posted on my website - www.ronolesko.blogspot.com |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Bobert Date: 31 Jul 10 - 06:58 PM The song is truely vintage Pete Seeger... always hopefull... always spiritual... Nicest man I think I have ever met... And yeah, a Nobel Peace Prize... Almost too little for such a humanistic man... B~ |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Jul 10 - 06:39 PM Yeah.....I probably should have just shut up but that song sounds more like Rod Parsley than Pete Seeger. And I always thought the "Non-Interventionist God" was a cop-out to try to sell religion and belief to people like me, but I see your point here as well. I think I could go for the interventionist god myself as it would lead to some possible proof......Fine Interventionist God Song Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Jul 10 - 06:04 PM I was wondering if some would react to the song that way, Spaw. I kinda like the theology behind it - the idea of a non-interventionist God, a God that depends on people to do good. But I can see your point as well. Remember it's Lorre Wyatt who wrote the song, not Pete. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You (Lorre Wyatt) From: catspaw49 Date: 31 Jul 10 - 04:57 PM I have always admired Pete. He is always out there on the front lines and standing up for what he believes is right. A person can do no more than that. He deserves the Nobel Prize that he'll never get and a place at the top of the legends in folk music that he has long had. But, uh.........hmmmmm...........oy..............well, I gotta' say it............. This song blows whales. As I'm agnostic and lacking any proof source for the existence or non-existence of "god," this thing makes me want to gag. I'm all for folks feeling better through their religion but the idea and sentiment expressed as it is here is............well, whatever it is it bites.........Has Pete ever been quite so openly religiously bent before? I don't recall it if he has. If god is counting on me have him send me a note to that effect. I would prefer a sign where he boils oil company executives in a huge vat of their own oil......now that might be the beginnings of a proof source. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You From: GUEST,Big Ballad Singer Date: 31 Jul 10 - 02:30 PM There are people who work as hard. There are people who have written as well. There are people who have had wider appeal. But there has been no one in my life and in the lives of millions of others who has combined artistry, social responsibility, musical skill and dedication to cause and country better than Pete Seeger. Some people take paragraphs to say what Pete said in a few simple, rhyming sentences. God bless you and yours, Pete... thanks for this wonderful song and your example to us all. |
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Subject: ADD:God's Counting on Me (Lorre Wyatt) From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Jul 10 - 02:17 PM This site has the lyrics (not the "wrong turns" and "eternity" verses) and a different video of the song....with a great story about Lorre Wyatt. I take it that Lorre Wyatt is the primary songwriter, but that Pete had a hand in it. GOD'S COUNTING ON ME (Lorre Wyatt) When we look and we can see things are not what they should be God's counting on me, God's counting on you When we look and we see things are not what they should be God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. It's time to turn things around, trickle up not trickle down God's counting on me, God's counting on you It's time to turn things around, trickle up not trickle down God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. And when "drill, baby, drill" leads to "spill, baby, spill" God's counting on me, God's counting on you And when "drill, baby, drill" leads to "spill, baby, spill" God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. Many wrong turns we have made; change the course, don't be afraid God's counting on me, God's counting on you Many wrong turns we've made; change the course, don't be afraid God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. Don't give up don't give in, workin' together we all can win God's counting on me, God's counting on you Don't give up don't give in, workin' together we all can win God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. There's big problems to be solved, let's get everyone involved God's counting on me, God's counting on you There's big problems to be solved, let's get everyone involved God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. What we do now, you and me, will affect eternity God's counting on me, God's counting on you What we do now, you and me, will affect eternity God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. When we sing with younger folks, we can never give up hope God's counting on me, God's counting on you When we sing with younger folks, we can never give up hope God's counting on me, God's counting on you Hopin' we'll all pull through, Hoping we'll all pull through, Hopin' we'll all pull through Me and you. ALTERNATE VERSE: Don't give up don't give in, there's a better world to win ALTERNATE TITLE: God's Counting on Me, God's Counting on You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csuqLEEtl34 |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You From: topical tom Date: 31 Jul 10 - 01:08 PM What a magnificent man and message! Here's to wind and solar power! |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You From: frogprince Date: 31 Jul 10 - 12:51 PM And that's one "living legend that I don't think of as "over-rated"! |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You From: Tannywheeler Date: 31 Jul 10 - 12:22 PM Wow!! Thanks, Uncle Phil. Tw |
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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger - God's Counting on You From: Uncle Phil Date: 31 Jul 10 - 10:52 AM http://www.nodepression.com/video/pete-seeger-gods-counting-on |
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