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opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches

GUEST,Don Meixner 01 Aug 10 - 05:39 PM
GUEST 01 Aug 10 - 05:40 PM
Joe Offer 01 Aug 10 - 06:12 PM
GUEST,DonMeixner 01 Aug 10 - 07:14 PM
Charley Noble 01 Aug 10 - 09:20 PM
GUEST,Don Meixner 01 Aug 10 - 11:23 PM
dick greenhaus 02 Aug 10 - 12:25 AM
Allan C. 02 Aug 10 - 05:17 AM
Mooh 02 Aug 10 - 05:34 AM
GUEST,Hootenanny 02 Aug 10 - 06:59 AM
GUEST,DonMeixner 02 Aug 10 - 08:31 AM
Charley Noble 02 Aug 10 - 08:31 AM
Mooh 03 Aug 10 - 12:34 AM
PHJim 03 Aug 10 - 06:49 PM
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PHJim 07 Aug 10 - 03:06 PM
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Subject: Tech: Banjo with a short scale 27.75'
From: GUEST,Don Meixner
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 05:39 PM

Any opinions on this? The practicality of a short scale five string banjo. Tuning issues, string gauges, playability. 24.75" is where I'm looking. Standard (Mastertone) scale is around 26.5" I believe.

Don


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Subject: RE: Tech: Banjo with a short scale 27.75'
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 05:40 PM

Can a Joe Clone fix this title to read 24.75" instead of 27.75"

Thanks

Don


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 06:12 PM

'Sokay?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 07:14 PM

Thanks Joe


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inche
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:20 PM

It's probably the equivalent of playing a banjo with a capo at the second fret, meaning you'd be playing an open A rather than an open G. If you wanted to play an open G you would have to tune the strings down or play different chords to achieve a G sound at the A position. That's not impossible if you tune up the 2nd string half a step and use an F-chord configuration for G. I do that all the time anyway.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: GUEST,Don Meixner
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 11:23 PM

Charlie

Are you suggesting I wouldn't be able to tune a short scale to standard tunings like open G(gDGBD)? I'd have to tune everything up a step.

Don


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 12:25 AM

You can tune to to standard tunings....somewhat heavier gauge strings will help.


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: Allan C.
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 05:17 AM

I have no direct experience but I recall reading in a catalog someplace that such a banjo worked best when "C" tuned.


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: Mooh
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 05:34 AM

Just string up with heavier strings. You might need to tweak the head tension and bridge placement too, but it's a quick and easy fix.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 06:59 AM

"Tweak the bridge placement" ? Surely this would make it impossible to tune correctly if it is a fretted instrument.

Hoot


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 08:31 AM

Bridge placement is a matter of mathematics plus a good ear for compromise.

D


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inche
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 08:31 AM

Don-

Heavier strings should work as suggested but you want to be sure the neck is designed to stand the strain. I don't think moving the bridge is an option.

A slightly shorter neck banjo is also very handy when traveling, given that it should fit more easily in an overhead compartment.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: Mooh
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 12:34 AM

Tweaking the nut too, if the slots aren't a good fit. Tweak the truss rod if necessary (and if there is one). Tweak the bridge if it wasn't originally well placed, if it shifts while you restring or re-tension the head, and if the little indents in the top of it bind the new strings at all.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: PHJim
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 06:49 PM

Open backs in an "A" scale are not uncommon. Bob Carlin had one at the Mariposa Folk Festival many years back. Since you can capo to play in A on a fretted banjo, this isn't really necessary, however it's a good idea for a fretless banjo since the capo doesn't work on them.

Some folks move the bridge of a fretless banjo closer to the middle of the head to tune up and shorten the scale, but there's only one place for a fretted banjo's bridge, no matter what the scale.


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: Mooh
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 04:58 PM

Of course there's really only one good place for the bridge to be, but it doesn't hurt to correct your intonation if necessary if you're already messing around with it.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: opinions: Banjo with a short scale 24.75 inches
From: PHJim
Date: 07 Aug 10 - 03:06 PM

Right Mooh - the key phrase in your advice was," if it wasn't originally well placed".


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