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Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow

olddude 01 Aug 10 - 05:57 PM
pdq 01 Aug 10 - 07:00 PM
Bobert 01 Aug 10 - 07:50 PM
olddude 01 Aug 10 - 08:08 PM
kendall 01 Aug 10 - 08:43 PM
olddude 01 Aug 10 - 08:52 PM
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GUEST,josep 01 Aug 10 - 09:45 PM
pdq 01 Aug 10 - 09:57 PM
olddude 01 Aug 10 - 09:58 PM
olddude 02 Aug 10 - 09:26 AM
skarpi 02 Aug 10 - 09:51 AM
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GUEST,leeneia 02 Aug 10 - 11:46 AM
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Subject: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 05:57 PM

What a treasure. There is some priceless stuff on here
hillbilly music

I haven't heard some of this stuff since I was a toddler


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: pdq
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 07:00 PM

Just for the record, Henry Burr was not a "hillbilly" in any way I can think of.

He was born in Canada with the name Harry McClaskey.

He started recording just past the turn of the century and lived until 1941.

In his lifetime Burr recorded at least 12,000 songs, mostly Pop. He also did many Irish.


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 07:50 PM

Thta;s the thng I miss the most about today's music scene... There ain't no corss-overs... Heck, back when we were listening to this stuff we never thought of it as hillbilly music, or country music, or, or.... It was just music...

B~


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 08:08 PM

Right on bobster ... but if someone who ever that is that made this website ... he was right to call it that. Back when I was a kid there was not country music .. there was western and hillbilly ... that was a common term in my neck of the woods and pretty much everywhere else ... I think it was a good call on his website


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: kendall
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 08:43 PM

I was doing a gig in a hotel pub in Scotland back in 1990.
This local kept asking for something country, so finally I did one of Hank Williams songs. I asked him if that was what he meant and he said "Yes, do more." I explained that I was raised on that old country music and did it all the time before I went crazy and became a folksinger. He said "Why did you shift over"? Before I could answer him, a wise guy at the bar said "He learned two more chords."

True story.


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 08:52 PM

LOL ... OMG that is so funny I cannot stop laughing ... OMG
HA HA HA

Priceless


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:18 PM

Yeah, it's funny but...

...it's also true...

There isn't a country song ever written that couldn't do an adequate job coverin' if I only knew five 1st postion chords... I mean, none... Hank Williamns, Don Williams or Dolly Parton... Give me 5 chords to chose from and noone except the snobs would knw any difference... Hillbily songs??S The same... Blue grass or old time??? Same Blues??? The same...

I mean, I watch the country music awards wher these folks get up on stage and bely 'um out and I'm watchin' their fret hands and thinking, "Hey, these folks ain't playin' squat"... Okay, maybe they are playin' squat??? lol...

B~


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: GUEST,josep
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:45 PM

I liked Tommy Scott, Merle, Bob Wills, Hank, Chet, Johnny and older stuff like Eck Robertson and Louis Galliland (who I think was a Confederate officer in the Civil War), Frank Jenkins and the cowboy artists like Dick Devall and Harry McClintock. Leadbelly did a lot of stuff now considered country. That was when music was music.


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: pdq
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:57 PM

Thank you for mentioning Tommy Scott.

Great showman.

Just for the record, the is still living at age 93.

I have a collection of duets he did with "Curly" Seckler in 1941. Good stuff.

                                                                                                          http://tommyscott.net/


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:58 PM

Josep
Amen ... also like that list especially the cowboys


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 09:26 AM

Curly Seckler, that is a name I have not heard in 100 years ... wow now I gotta dig out some music


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: skarpi
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 09:51 AM

holy cow hmmmmm what does cow got to do anything about hillybilly music ? this is great website ...


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: gnu
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 11:07 AM

Kendall.... hahahahhehehehe

skarpi... Holy cow! = Wow!


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: Midchuck
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 11:13 AM

Kendall's point is well taken - but subject to exceptions.

There are Homer and Jethro threads on here.

Has anyone really listened to Homer's guitar work and Jethro's mandolin?

These were very sophisticated jazz instrumentalists. They just made a more reliable living as country comedians.

Peter


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 11:46 AM

Today one of the songs is 'I Found a Hidin' Place' by five men wearing suits and ties. One looks Slavic and one looks black.

Are they hillbillies too?


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 11:53 AM

Leeneia,
Hillybilly's in spirit, they are kindred spirits ... YUP


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 11:57 AM

Right now it is "I learned my lesson too late" by Red Murrell and the Ozark playboys

That is some down home music


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: skarpi
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 01:18 PM

LOL hahahahaha Kendall this was a good one .....


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: GUEST,josep
Date: 02 Aug 10 - 07:44 PM

Cow has a lot to do with hillbilly. My father was a hillbilly from the KY hills and he grew up on cowboy songs not the other types of country. We had a neighbor that loved country but my father never listened to that stuff, it was cowboy songs. The first record he ever heard was in the late 20s on a wind-up Victrola, it was "Jesse James" and I think that was the Harry McClintock version. It was at his uncle's and I think that was the only record the guy had. Whenever I heard my dad sing a song from his boyhood it was always a cowboy number.

Also regarding black musicians--yes they were hillbillies too. Out in the rural South, whites and blacks played the same stuff. Grand Ole Opry on WSM was huge among blacks. Chuck Berry and Ray Charles will tell you that's what they grew up listening to. I just recently met Billy Davis--a guy that played with Hank Ballard after Cal Green left and he played in the studio with a lot of country artists because he played good country guitar. It wasn't unusual at one time to see black musicians playing at a white dance party back in the day. White and black traveling musicians crossed paths and borrowed material from each other--sometimes teaching each other songs the other heard and liked. I imagine that's where Eck Robertson learned "There's a Brown-Skinned Girl Down the Road Somewhere."

All the bluegrass stuff isn't from Ireland and all that crap--oldest falsehood in the book. Bluegrass descended from minstrelsy as most of your early bluegrass musicians were veteran blackface minstrel performers. I think Uncle Dave Macon was in fact. He was certainly a bluegrass forerunner. Any one who doubts this, please provide an example of Celtic music that sounds even remotely like bluegrass. While banjos are occasionally found in Celtic bands today, it is not a European instrument. The very word "banjo" tells you where it came from. Blacks have played a far more important role in country and folk than most people realize. Whites take the credit and blacks have really not lifted a finger to reclaim their heritage. Most of them would rather forget it, it seems.


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 12:09 PM

Josep
Thank you, that was a very good informative read


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 12:11 PM

Just heard Rose Maddox doing "Lonely Teardrop"
How cool is that


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 01:55 PM

It was called hillbilly music, and it was commonly played by and
listened to by poor white rural folks. It was changed to "Country and
Western" to be less offensive, because "hillbilly" can be taken as an
offensive term. Since country music artists were incorporating western
themes into their music, they combined the terms "Country and Western"
as one genre.

The same goes for blues music and related music styles. It was known
as "Race" music, used for poor black musicians, but they changed it to
"Rhythm and Blues" to be less offensive.

I would be considered a "hillbilly", because to me, "hillbilly" means
a rural person who lives in the hills. But, most people call me a
"hillbilly" to insult me.


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: olddude
Date: 03 Aug 10 - 01:59 PM

Maple so true
I wear my Hillbilly with pride so they can try and insult me .. :-)
as popeye said, I am what I am .. my roots are planted in those hills and mountains and music.


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: GUEST,bankley
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 08:05 AM

hard to be a Hillbilly in Saskatchewan ....

maybe Plain William would work better out on the great flats


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Subject: RE: Hillbilly Music ... Holy Cow
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 01:49 PM

Olddude--

Although I'm not fond of the term 'hillbilly', I really thank you for posting that link. It is my favorite of musics.


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