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Tech: Safari crashes

Janie 13 Aug 10 - 10:05 PM
The Fooles Troupe 14 Aug 10 - 08:16 AM
Bettynh 14 Aug 10 - 09:46 AM
Janie 14 Aug 10 - 09:53 AM
Reinhard 14 Aug 10 - 10:04 AM
Amos 14 Aug 10 - 12:28 PM
Ross Campbell 14 Aug 10 - 09:55 PM
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Subject: Tech: Safari crashes
From: Janie
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 10:05 PM

I am aware that Safari and Adobe Flash Player don't play nicely with one another anymore. I am probably also running out of memory on my 4 year old Mac desktop.

I accept that the need for more memory is slowing my Mac down, and that only I can do something about that. However, I am really getting pissed at frequent Safari crashes associated with the ubiquitous Flash Player.

I'm not sure, however, who I should be mad at....Apple and Safari, Adobe and Flashplayer, or both?

I have figured out that using Firefox when running videos will eliminate crashes. It is just that I have Safari set up to suit me, don't want to spend time learning the ins and outs of another browser, and as is often the case, the Mac version of lots of stuff doesn't work as well or operate as intuitively for those of us who are not geeks, who learned on PC's, but who later bought a Mac.

Not sure if I started this thread for help or just to bitch. Open to help anyway.

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Subject: RE: Tech: Safari crashes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 08:16 AM

I'm sure there are plug ins to make the Mac version of Firefox at least look more like a Mac....

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Subject: RE: Tech: Safari crashes
From: Bettynh
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 09:46 AM

Jani, if your memory problem might be simply a cluttered hard drive, a cheap fix can be an external drive. It'll eat up a usb port, but memory is cheap now. I put itunes and a couple graphics archives on an external drive, and it works well, though it might have slowed the initial start of itunes a bit. Safari doesn't crash for me, it just fails to load.

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Subject: RE: Tech: Safari crashes
From: Janie
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 09:53 AM

That's a good idea, Bettynh. I share this Mac with a 16 year old, so you can imagine how much memory iTunes downloads are using.

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Subject: RE: Tech: Safari crashes
From: Reinhard
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 10:04 AM

If you don't like to go all the way to Firefox, why don't you try its Mac cousin Camino?

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Subject: RE: Tech: Safari crashes
From: Amos
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 12:28 PM

Concur on the external HD for storing all that music on. If you let your HD get above 85-90% full a host of poxy issues can start happening.

The other issue when large number of files are being added, deleted and modified is that the permissions tree sometimes gets messed up.

There is a very robust utility you can install called Cocktail, which will fix that all up. The built-in DIsk Utility also has a clean up tool on it for permissions, and cleaning old caches, which may be part of the problem.

I run Safari myself and have never had a big problem with Flash things. I do keep a copy of IE on the HD for occasional encounters with crappy websites.

There is also a utility called Flip4Mac which you can install for dealing with .wmvs through Quicktime, very handy.

Check the amount of free space on your hard drive. You might even give the external HD to the lad with his own user environment, so that your workspace stays relatively untroubled.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Safari crashes
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 14 Aug 10 - 09:55 PM

I set up Firefox when Safari stopped talking to my email service. Later version of Safari actually takes care of that problem, but I stuck with Firefox anyway (Safari kicks in occasionally when apple connections require it). I seem to remember being able to replicate all my bookmarks from Safari, and can't remember anything looking radically different. Just in case, I also set up Opera and Camino with the same success, but haven't ever needed to use them. I've always avoided IE for ideological reasons, used Netscape on my old machine for dial-up connection as long as that lasted.

Four-year-old machine? Such luxury! I have been finding aged but under-used Apple computers for relatively little money (eBay and even car-boot sales!), any of which could do anything my eight-year-old Powerbook can do (except possibly write DVDs, which I've not yet required it to do anyway). I'd recommend a second computer as an alternative or possibly in addition to an external hard drive. For Apple machines, there is a method of copying files between computers via Firewire, so you could either duplicate your files for backup purposes or divide between your stuff and iTunes user. (I can see that having access to a dedicated music computer might lead to even more downloads - you'll have to make up your own mind about that.)

I've just gone over 75% usage on my 60Gb laptop hard drive, so it's probably about time I did some splitting.


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