sex or trad folk: which is best ???

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: LadyJean
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 12:43 AM

There's a wonderful song that says Music, Sex and Cookies make the world go round. I'm inclined to agree.
The song ends with narrator having been dumped by his girl, but discovering he has an unopened bag of cookies and a new record (That rather dates things.) and two out of three ain't bad.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 11:08 AM

Lizzie -- I believe they are very keen on the Oral Tradition at CS House!

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,callingbird
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 07:53 AM

Believe me....SIZE MATTERS!

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 05:49 AM

40 odd verse ballads versus sex

It is not the size that counts so much as the technique

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 10:34 AM

Is only Traditional Sex permitted in Cecil Sharp House, I wonder?

Hey, maybe that's why they're all so quiet over there! ;0)

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 10:25 AM

"Hard Times, hard times, come again no more".....translates to "Please, doctor...don't prescribe him any more Viagra"

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 07:55 AM

come to a Dick Miles gig you will probably get both, in song form.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: pavane
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 07:45 AM

I met my wife in a folk club...

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 07:22 AM

If nobody performs trad folk it will become extinct.

If nobody performs sex humanity will become extinct.

Now is it worth having humanity without trad folk?

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 06:15 AM

Terribly sorry, Bryan. Nicking someone's punch line is unforgivable. Apologies to J in K if you were working up to that one as well, but thank you for your measured and thoughtful comments immediately above.

Valmai

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: TheSnail
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 06:01 AM

Valmai has stolen my punch line. The first two lines of the chorus of Hard Times are more appropriate to the period after the climax of the performance -

"Tis the song, the sigh of the weary,
Hard Times, hard times, come again no more"

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 05:45 AM

If it is necessary to distinguish "trad folk" from (implied) other kinds of folk, it would seem necessary, to be fair, to select just one (or a few) kinds of sex so that approximately equal domains and ranges of performance be compared on both sides of the discussion.

I'm not sure whether "trad" folk have different knowledge and experience of the full range of "sex" than would be found in a broader and more inclusive group(?) of folk exemplars, but the implication that discussion is open to all kinds of "sex" seems to place an imbalance of confusions on the two sides of the debate.

If only trad folk are accepted, only narrow understanding of the other side is to be expected, while the all-inclusive "sex" side is bound to be completely at a loss even to define "what is sex?".

Although comments thus far have been thoughtful and constructive, without more specific definition of the terms and limits the entire debate might collapse into frivolous s.a. quips and retorts, rather than the serious and considered conversation that might lead to understanding on both sides - which certainly would be a shame when so much progress has already appeared.

John

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 05:37 AM

Presumably not Hard Times Come Again No More.

Valmai

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: TheSnail
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 04:40 AM

Do you mean the one that contains the wonderful line "Tis a whale that is heard upon the shore"? What's politcally incorrect about that?

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 02:57 AM

John ot SC

TMI! I don't even want to know what Stephen Foster song.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Aug 10 - 08:21 PM

Actual, I think both at the same time. We sing the start of the chorus to a now non-politically correct SC Foster song at the appropriate time.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Mingulay
Date: 17 Aug 10 - 08:00 PM

Having given some thought to this question, I can state quite categorically that there is no distinction. There is, however, a serious question of etiquette involved in both scenarios which is, does one continue to hold ones tankard of ale whilst 'performing' or does one place it in a safe but convenient position so that the thirst may be quenched when required during the 'performance'?

Answers on a postcard please to the usual address.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: RWilhelm
Date: 17 Aug 10 - 04:55 PM

Either way, someone is bound to say "You're doing it wrong."

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Young Buchan
Date: 17 Aug 10 - 04:50 PM

Trad folk. That way when you find someshing stuck in your ear you know it's your own finger.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Dead Horse
Date: 17 Aug 10 - 09:07 AM

There is many a fine tune played on an old fiddle,
but then some just scratch it.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 06:19 PM

If you use the air button on your Concertina you can make some great phone calls to all sorts of freinds .. G

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Splott Man
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 09:32 AM

If I'm at folk club, then I'd rather have the trad songs.

But to some people trad folk is foreplay.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 03:42 AM

Steve Parkes: I can sing by myself or with any number of others in front of any number of people ... Oh, and my wife doesn't mind a bit.

Well mine does! The minute I start, either by myself or with one or more partners, she gets the hump.

Now, I have to make sure she's out of the house before any of my music partners can sneak round for a "quickie".

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 03:17 AM

Thank you Valamai.... Great way to start the day with a good long belly laugh.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 02:34 AM

I suppose trad folk is a bit like an STD: once you've caught it, it makes you unwelcome in some social circles and you keep getting the urge to pass it on.

Valmai (Lewes)

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: mousethief
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 01:25 AM

Is that the 1954 definition of sex? :-)

I did not have a trad folk relations with that woman.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 11:15 PM

Acoustic or electrically enhanced?

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 10:21 PM

To paraphrase the famous comic who's name I've forgotten:

Lots of other interests can be made part of one's sexual activities.

It used to bother me when my wife laughted while we were having sex -

- but since she's insisted she wasn't laughing at me I seldom even bother to ask what she's reading when it happens now.

John

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 06:31 PM

PS. Anyone who stoppeth one in three is batting a pretty good average.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 06:31 PM

But what about the rim of the ancient mariner?

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,LTS on the sofa
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 06:26 PM

Of course, you realise i should have put 'No, it's bloody well not'.... it's been a very long time and I've read a lot of poetry recently.....

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST, Fido
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 05:42 PM

On the other hand a headache is antithetical to both, and either can involve blowing the bosun's whistle.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 03:05 PM

Well now ... I can sing a song and then sing another one straight away; I can do this for half an hour or more at a time, and all I need is the odd glass of water; after a short rest I can do it all again. I can sing by myself or with any number of others in front of any number of people ... Oh, and my wife doesn't mind a bit.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 02:55 PM

Well, there's always sex *with* traditional folk who'd sing whilst er...um..ern....

But...they'd probably have their fingers in their ears too....

EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!


Get Jon Bon Jovi back here..NOW!

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 02:27 PM

Isn't there some kind of trad sex we could perform?

What position should I play this in?

Missionary mandolin? That might be a bit back to front.

Tantric tippers? Get that goat skin off.

Saucy spoons? A real position according to Cosmo.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 02:25 PM

What's the difference?

Both require study, thoughtful preparation, and regular practice to learn the skills necessary for adequate performance.

Shared with appropriate others, even a mediocre performance can be rewarding, and appreciated.

Performed with, or for, someone inappropriate or unappreciative, either can be a total flop.

With either, one can choose whether to be the performer or the recipient participating audience, and the variety of forms, styles, methods, techniques, and instruments available are sufficient for life-long enjoyment of them both.

Neither is - eventually - much fun if you only know "one song" and try to play it the same at every performance.

John

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: JohnB
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 12:46 PM

Traditional music lasts forever, sex, on the other hand, or with a partner, does not.
There again, who can handle more than 4 or 5 40 verse ballads in a night.
JohnB

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 12:40 PM

It's probably an age-related thing. I'm surprised no-one has yet referred to the oral tradition....

Kitty

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 12:35 PM

Trad sex is done by modal folkers.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,mauvepink
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 12:18 PM

If you are having to ask I think you need to give up one or the other.... or maybe both! lol

;-)

mp

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: melodeonboy
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 12:16 PM

Is that the 1954 definition of sex? :-)

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 12:14 PM

Hang on, I'll consult some old diaries.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: open mike
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 12:11 PM

i have heard contra dancing called the most fun you can have
"standing up" or "with your clothes on..."

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 11:28 AM

Isn't there some kind of trad sex we could perform? or does that have to be done unaccompanied?

Matthew

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: MikeL2
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 11:15 AM

hi

If we talk as long about what is sex as what is Folk music nobody will be getting either.

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 10:39 AM

As many people as I've seen go out the door of the pub for a cigarette after they "perform" I am now wondering.

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Susan A-R
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 09:57 AM

It all has to do with the moment, and the quality of either, of course

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 09:35 AM

Trad folk is best, sex only lasts 45 minutes.

Dave H

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 09:13 AM

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: Richard Bridge - PM
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 04:53 AM

Some trad songs last longer

now that's funny, Richard !

but with a grain of truth ...

Subject: RE: sex or trad folk: which is best ???
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 04:55 AM

Strumming on her banjo..

A blow on the old crumhorn.

Singing in harmony (!)

A quick chorus of The Bonny Black Hare.

Just don't make the mistake of giving a round of applause at the end.