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Subject: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 19 Aug 10 - 09:13 PM Frankly, I'm getting just a little tired of the right wing thinkin' that it owns the 2nd Ammendment and that it owns all the guns... And I'm gettin' ever sicker of them threatening to use them, i.'e. to kill liberals and progressives so... ... I for one have this to say to the right wing... I own guns and I can shoot as fast and straight as you can so quit with yer school yard bullyin' crap... Ya'll is punks in my book... But the larger picture is this... In the 60's the progressive movement was snuffed out with four bullets: Malcolm was taken for beginning to talk about everything as a class struggle... John was taken out because he represented hope... Bobby was taken out because he went up against the military industrialists and Martine was taken out because he was the best the left had... He was everything... Now I wonder... If the left were to do what the right says it has this "right" to do with 2nd Ammendment remedies and take out the top of the right's control center who would be the ones that would be taken out much like the right took out our folks in the 60s... Me??? Glen Beck goes first... Sarah Palin goes second... Newt Gingrich goes third and John Beohner goes last... That, in essence would be what the right did to our side in the 60s... Now the question arrises: "Am I advocating this?"... No, I am not but with assholes going around armed where the president is speakin' with signs that say that its perfectly okee dokee to kill off people than if they can do that and get away with it then I think it is my Constitutional right to post this as well... No, I, unlike the jerk with the gun at the Obama ralley, I am not advocating this ... I am, however, trying to get folks to think that the the right does not have this "Get-outta-jail" card in offin' folks it doesn't like... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: mousethief Date: 19 Aug 10 - 09:25 PM You forgot Ann Coulter, the Queen of Hate. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Aug 10 - 09:28 PM Bobert, your twisted history doesn't help. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 19 Aug 10 - 09:30 PM She's not worth a bullet, mouse... I think Miss Annie just needs to be kidnapped and be made to work pickin' crops in California... I think about a week of that and Miss Annie would be a flamin' progressive... With a bod, I might add... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Ebbie Date: 19 Aug 10 - 09:30 PM My father, being a horse breeder and trainer, often drove a matched team. Very impressive. I think Palin and Coulter would fit right in. snort, whinny, eeee haw, eee haw, eee haw... Seriously, I don't think in those terms, Bobert, and I prefer not to. Those 60s were hard to live through. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 19 Aug 10 - 09:36 PM Nothin' twisted here, Q-ball... I mean, it doesn't have to be s smokin' gun Perry Mason thing... Reality is that thess folks were killed and, inspite of 40 years of rewrites, there really isn't too much motives with any of them... Oh yeah, I've read the rewrite and revisions of the rewrites and and revisions of the revisons of the rewrites but bottom line??? It's all bullshit... Hey, I was there... Ain't like I'm readin' it in some sanitized history book... We all know who werte poppin' the corks when these folks went down... I mean, if you were to take yerself back to the 60s and ask yerself just which 4 people you needed to take out in order to stop a movement it would be: Malcolm, John, Bobby and Martin... Hmmmmm? ain't that some coincident??? Not... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Aug 10 - 07:04 PM "which X people you needed to take out in order to stop a movement" .... and that long haired muso with the glasses? :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: BlueJay Date: 21 Aug 10 - 04:09 AM If you assasinated Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter, McCain, Boehner, Palin and the rest, combined they all wouldn't add up to the effect of the assasination of a single MLK or JFK. In a way, the right wing has a numerical advantage! Go Team! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 21 Aug 10 - 08:42 AM Well, that is very true, Blue-J, but it might do to the right what their bullets did to the left in ending theior 30 year run of controlling the conversation... Yeah, I'd love to see them come clean and quit all the lieing and anti-socail bully behavior... Yeah, the right talks about "personal responsibility" and then does everything in it's power to bully and decieve... That ain't having to be responsible for ones behavior... They haven't had to pay any price at all... Time for a change... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 21 Aug 10 - 02:24 PM Not to rain on your parade or your revisionist history--but JFK was killed by a mentally deranged Communist wannabe. RFK was killed by a Palestinean disgruntled with his target's views on Israel, and other perceived injustices he was angry about. Malcolm X was killed by a couple of members of The Nation of Islam, a group X had formerly belonged to and renounced. None of the above were killed by people of the right. Only MLK has that dubious, sad distinction. The clouds having cleared, you may now revise away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 21 Aug 10 - 09:14 PM Have you another drink of coolaide, John... Of course the right isn't gonna fess up to jack!!! The own the friggin' country lock, stock and barrel and why should they... We know very well what happenecd in the 60's... Ya'll can rewrite it as many different ways as you want but that's all it it is... Rewritin' complete mythology... I might buy into Malcolm's death but the others??? Pure bullshit that the ritght has had many years to sanitize and beautify... All lies!!! All complete mythology... Can I prove it??? Of course, IO can't... That's how well that the right has covered their tracks... I mean, they own the government and they own the media so, hey... ..garbage in, garbage out and what you have parroted above is nuthin' but what you have been told to repeat... Like a parrot sayin' "Polly, want a cracker"... Nothin' more... And for the record... The clouds will never, ever clear... Never!!! Ya'll killed off our movement literally and it something that you and yers would never undersatand unless it was done to yer little ballgame... Then you'd be goin', "Geeze, we didn't realize that iof a select few of our folks were killed that it would have such an impact on our position... I'd love for the right to understand this but they never will... Hey, ya'll own the ball so if ya'll want 4 strikes then ya'll will just change the rules... Just like ya'll have buried the truth and rewritten histroy... Normal... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: kendall Date: 22 Aug 10 - 08:04 AM Lincoln's masterful "Gettysburg Address," the text of innumerable Memorial Day observances, is often misconstrued as a patriotic hymn to war, yet Lincoln abhorred military might and the bloodshed of the Civil War. Years before his presidency he stated, "The ballot is stronger than the bullet," and "…Among freemen there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet, and …they who take such appeal are sure to lose their case and pay the cost." He also said, "…Military glory [is the] attractive rainbow that rises in showers of blood." |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 22 Aug 10 - 11:21 AM Well, Bobert, we now have about 50% agreement, King & X. Maybe when your meds kick in and your head clears (even if the clouds don't), we might come to full agreement. Good luck. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 10 - 01:04 PM Nah, John... I think we have 25% agreement... Malcolm's death, though robbin' US of a man who was on the cusp of becoming a mega-national leader for "all" of US on the left, I don't believe to be part of the right wing assasination conspiracy... That leaves John, Martin and Bobby who the right wing considered to be dangerous and were taken out as part of a rightwing conspiracy to try to stop the progressive movement... And it worked just like ***they*** drew it up on paper... BTW, historians may never cut thru the layers of stories and mythology to finger the people who were part of this conspiracy but my suspisions are that these folks were well acqauinted with the Heritage Foundation, which BTW, had many former European Nazi sympathizers in its ranks... The point is, howver, that these assasination had a chilling effect on the progressive/civilrights/antiwar movement... The second point is that these assasinations were part os a straegy to reel in progressives and if it worked back then I think it woud have a very sobering effect on those people amoung US that are propagating hatred of groups of people based on ethnicity, racism and outright lies... Their agenda is clear... They hate the New Deal and they want to tear it down brick by brick... Then they will go after the civil rights act... Heck, they are allready talkin' about wanting to alter the 1st and 14th ammendments... Yeah, take out the people who are the most public in propagating these attitudes and sunsequent anti-socail behaviors and I reckon that folks wouldn't think it's perfectly okay to take a gun to a ralley where a black president is to speak or to knowingly spread lies about his citizenship or religious beliefs... For the life of me I can't see any other way that borish rednecks can be brought to think "cause 'n effect" as long as they are getting away with treasonous behavior... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Aug 10 - 02:02 PM Bobert's philo-sophistry is so yesterday. J. F. Kennedy was more of a pop-star wonder* than a statesman. His misguided efforts included sending help to the French colonial bosses in Vietnam, beginning the fiasco that blew up into a full scale war fought to no purpose. All the Vietnamese wanted was their independence. His fight with liberalism in Latin America led to increasingly oppressive regimes in several countries and his mis-handling of Cuba was laughable. "Alliance for Progress" my ass. He messed up in Iraq by supporting the overthrow of Kassim, who had deposed the corrupt monarchy- One would not be far wrong if one accused him of starting U. S. military involvement in Iraq. He talked but did not act when Israel developed an atomic bomb, one of the actions that helped to destabilize the Middle Eastern governments and which eventually led to extremist Islamic policies. I could add more about this, perhaps the worst president. *pop star as a term is anachronistic here, but he was a precurser of Beetle hysteria. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Paul Burke Date: 22 Aug 10 - 02:15 PM "Bobert's philo-sophistry is so yesterday." Well it is a trad site. How could Shakespeare (not Shakespeare, but the one who wrote all the plays) have coped if the smoothsayer had to say, not just "Beware the Ides of March", but "Don't go near any grassy knolls, and mind that book repository while you're about it"? As for the worst president, they've ALL been worse than each other, apart from John Milhouse Eisenhower. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 10 - 02:48 PM Now, that's some fine coolaide mytholgy, Q... As for the worst presidents??? Polk, Lincoln, Hooover, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush II top my list... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Aug 10 - 03:29 PM Not coolaid mythology, but hard fact sour mash mint julep history. The four actions by JFK I cited are history, not myth. Some more- His interference in Ireland may be blamed an a partial cause of the rise of armed conflict in the north. He started 'big spender' government, with a $100 billion budget. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Paul Burke Date: 22 Aug 10 - 03:41 PM partial cause of the rise of armed conflict in the north Not to be too subtle about it, bollocks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Aug 10 - 04:14 PM Kennedy, intent on cementing his relations with Irish-Americans, formed the American Irish Foundation, with de Valera. He visited what purported to be the 'home' of the Kennedys. and emphasized his Irish ancestry. Irish-Americans soon were sending money to Ireland, stirred to remember their roots, and supported the cause of Irish Catholics in the North. The money in part contributed to the strife which still has echos there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Paul Burke Date: 22 Aug 10 - 04:23 PM Which wouldn't have done anything at all had the North not been a nightmare of oppression. The civil rights movement had infinitely more to do with housing and jobs than with "roots". Read about Bernadette Devlin and Burntollet, which was where the Northern Irish state (different from the British occupation, left mostly to go their own way) showed that it wasn't going to allow American civil rights nonsense to spoil their little local hegemony. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: kendall Date: 22 Aug 10 - 06:57 PM Bobert, how about Paul Wellstone? was he assassinated? |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 10 - 07:25 PM I don't know, Kendall, but I do know that the rigth wing conspirators are ridin' a high wave these days and they really are purdy brazzen in their efforts to kill off the New Deal so I wouldn't put it past them... As for John Kennedy... The reason that the right winged had him killed is because Kennedy offered "hope" to the masses... Then right wing does not want a hopefull population because a hopefull population will have the courage to make changes and expect the government to work toward the betterment of the working class... The right wing doesn't want hope... They want misery for the working class... They want the masses to be in fear... I mean, this is their entire goal... 10% unemployment, fear and misery for the workin' class... That is their goal... BTW, I'd like to put Rupert Murdock on my drea, hit list... He epitomozes the very worst of the ruling class... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Aug 10 - 08:18 PM Oh, the poor, downtrodden working class. They will always be with us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 10 - 08:36 PM In other wo5rds, "Let them eat cake", Q??? I mean, lets get real here... Revolutions do happen and there is one basic reason for them happening and that is that Boss Hog didn't know when to quit his squeeze play on the working class... Engles and Marx had it right and historically a ruling class can stay in power but only so long if it does not share the wealth... You can make jokes about it... All the ruling classes that have been brought down made jokes as well... Goes with the territory... I'm beginning to see a little movement here in the US... Yeah, the Tea Party folks have half of it right and the other half completely 180 degress wrong but if they get that part right then look out 'cause the progressives just might be able to spin the story so that these folks understand just how used they are to Boss Hog and when that happens, as I have said here going back year, it ain't gonna be purdy for Boss Hog... Right now Boss Hog has a hold on these folks but unless these folks situations improve, Boss Hog's stroies aren't going to be quite so credible with these folks... I would be too much in a hurry to poppin' the corks if I were Boss Hog these days... I mean, things can turn around and Redneck nation could figure out that it ain't the elistist educated people who are the enemey... That's when the 2nd Ammendment solutions will come back to bite Boss Hog & Co... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Rapparee Date: 22 Aug 10 - 09:01 PM Methods of thought which claim to give the lead to our world in the name of revolution have become, in reality, ideologies of consent and not of rebellion. --Albert Camus I cannot help fearing that men may reach a point where they look on every new theory as a danger, every innovation as a toilsome trouble, every social advance as a first step toward revolution, and that they may absolutely refuse to move at all. --Alexis de Tocqueville The seed of revolution is repression. --Woodrow Wilson Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy. --Franz Kafka Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. --George Orwell The most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution. --Hannah Arendt I cried when they shot Medgar Evers Tears ran down my spine I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy As though I'd lost a father of mine But Malcolm X got what was coming He got what he asked for this time So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I go to civil rights rallies And I put down the old D.A.R. I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy I hope every colored boy becomes a star But don't talk about revolution That's going a little bit too far So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I cheered when Humphrey was chosen My faith in the system restored I'm glad the commies were thrown out of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board I love Puerto Ricans and Negros as long as they don't move next door So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal The people of old Mississippi Should all hang their heads in shame I can't understand how their minds work What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain? But if you ask me to bus my children I hope the cops take down your name So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I read New republic and Nation I've learned to take every view You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden I feel like I'm almost a Jew But when it comes to times like Korea There's no one more red, white and blue So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal I vote for the democratic party They want the U.N. to be strong I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts He sure gets me singing those songs I'll send all the money you ask for But don't ask me to come on along So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal Once I was young and impulsive I wore every conceivable pin Even went to the socialist meetings Learned all the old union hymns But I've grown older and wiser And that's why I'm turning you in So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal --Phil Ochs |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 10 - 09:08 PM Wilson got it right... Phil Ochs got it dismally wrong... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Aug 10 - 09:32 PM Not let them eat cake, but let them collect unemployment. Five percent always will be unemployable, five percent will complain but be willing to collect government largess. The rest may complain, but get on with the job. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Rapparee Date: 22 Aug 10 - 09:33 PM If the U.S. monopoly capitalist groups persist in pushing their policies of aggression and war, the day is bound to come when they will be hanged by the people of the whole world. The same fate awaits the accomplices of the United States. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. --Mao Zedong |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Aug 10 - 09:56 PM Mao must be turning in his grave. China, whither goest thou? The BMW factory in China can't keep up with demand, and parts are being imported from Germany. The Hummer sells well. An animal with two heads. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 22 Aug 10 - 10:26 PM No, Moa got it right... Things take time to perculate... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Aug 10 - 02:27 PM Lional trains- A wristwatch with a little train that runs around on the dial. Has a little push pin to release the train. A real cutie. Labeled Lionel on dial, also the monogram in color* at the center. Made in China. Comes in a tin box. Not in production at the moment, but some can be found on Ebay, around $15-$20. *some later ones lack the monogram. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Aug 10 - 02:40 PM The above is a toy, but China now producing 21-35 jewel automatic watches that are less than $100, and soon will compete in price with Timex. Mao is yesterday, gone, gone, gone. Now the engine is supersonic and eventually China will pass the U. S. industrially. Did you buy stock in the Agricultural bank's IPO? Almost $20 billion in shares offered to investors and eagerly taken up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 23 Aug 10 - 03:20 PM Bobert and all of us--- Excerpted from today's LA Times, "Blogger beware: Postings can lead to lawsuits" [The print edition head, "Online rants can turn costly."] "...a right-wing blogger from New Jersey, faces up to 10 years in prison for posting a comment that three Chicago judges "deserve to be killed" for having rejected a 2nd Amendment challenge to the city's handgun ban in 2009. Turner, who also ran his own Web-based radio show, thought it "was political trash talk," his lawyer said. But this month a jury in Brooklyn, N.Y., convicted him of threatening the lives of the judges on the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals." The final two paragraphs: "Media law experts repeat the advice that bloggers and e-mailers need to think twice before sending a message. "The first thing people need to realize, they can be held accountable for what they say online," Baron [dirctor of Media Law Resources Center] said. '"Before you speak ill of anyone online, you should think hard before pressing the 'send' button."" The entire article is at latimes.com. I do not ever want to read that these things happened to us folks posting at Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Rapparee Date: 23 Aug 10 - 03:50 PM 'Sokay, John. Come the Revolution I plan to shoot at both side indiscriminately. Politically I'm a Rational Anarchist Mugwump, but I'd really like the job as head of the Secret Police. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Rapparee Date: 23 Aug 10 - 03:53 PM By the way, within the last week China officially became the world's #2 industrial power. 2015, boys and girls, 2015, and China passes the US and India becomes #2. By 2020 we MAY see a cooperation treaty between China and India.... Remember, your Jaguar used to be made by Ford, but now it's made by Tata. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 23 Aug 10 - 04:16 PM Who could afford a Jaguar? Cars are supposed to cost less than houses. Since the new manufacturer must be a rather larger company, can it be said that Jaguar is made by 'bodacious TaTa(s)?' Groan |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 23 Aug 10 - 05:17 PM Yeah, John, I am perfectly aware that I'm treadin' a tad close to the line... So I'll be sure not to aoening advocate that anyone kill anyone... Or even say I wish this or that person was dead... Given the fact the some right wing politicans have openly used the term "2nd Ammenment Remedies" then I think it is fair for the folks that they think need to be killed to further their right wing agendas then my musin' over very hypothetical scenerios seems rather benign in comparasion to what the "other side" ahs not only done with the armed guy at the Obama ralley or said in making these very threatening campaign speeches... What's good for the goose is good for the gander... Remember that I have have repeatedly asked the righties here to denounce the tactics that their side is using... Hey, if they want to bust me for not running away like a washraog crybaby from the bullying, borish right wingers then, hey, bust my ass!!! I mean, I'll meet them at the end of the driveway so their cars don't get dusty on the long ride up my dirt road... BTW, I don't recall one person on the rioght ever saying that it was wrong for the guy to take a gun to an Obama rally... Or it was wrong to organize thugs to scare the helll out of people attending the town halls last year... Little hypocrisy here... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 10 - 05:59 PM reaching WAY back to yesterday evening... Bobert said: "As for John Kennedy... The reason that the right winged had him killed is because Kennedy offered "hope" to the masses." and no one questioned that? I thought it was 'officially' decided that it was one right-wing NUT that was responsible. (Not that others weren't pleased..) But have we drifted into just 'asserting' that we 'know' better, and can just toss off blanket statements like that? *I* don't know that 'the right wing' did ANYTHING to JFK. ...and being me, I don't think that veiled hints about '2nd Amendment remedies' are a good idea coming from either side.,..or the middle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 23 Aug 10 - 06:35 PM Of course you don't, Bill... Im ean, gol danged, if you could have busted the right wing assdasination ballgame of the 60s then don't ya' think others would have gotten there before you??? And I agree that this discussion of "2nd Ammendment Remiedies" isn't a good idea... That's why I have started this thread... I mean, the righties don't mind usin' this very threatening language and we know they will carry out their threats so in the absence of any sanity of the right satnding tall in the saddle and sayin' it's wrong then, hey, maybe a little of the crap that the right is using to swcare people on the left is something that ougtta be redirected back at them... I will say this... Yes, I loved Martin Luther King... I have almost all of his speeches and letters... I worship him but... ...if the righties think they can huff 'n puff and get another round of assasinations going with their red hot hate filled rhetoric then I just want them to know that the Whpo got it right, "We won't be fooled again" and next time we'll be shooting back... Hey, it's called self defense... No rant, just fact... I got guns, I can shoot striaght and if Redneck Nation thinks I'm just gonna roll under from their bullyin' tactics then Redneck Nation needs to think twice... And I gotta a lot of leftie friends who are goin' to be shooting back, too... Like I have said... What's good for the goose is good for the gander... Maybe the right needs to know that if they think they can push their hate-filled agenda on this country with threats of violence that this time it might just be a little different then may the right will quit with their bullyin, borish assholish threats of violence... Or at the very least, denounce it rather than playin' games... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Rapparee Date: 23 Aug 10 - 07:10 PM Tata Motors. 90,636 vehicles x 12 = 1,087,632 vehicles per year. Tata Motors, the first company from India's engineering sector to be listed in the New York Stock Exchange (September 2004), has also emerged as an international automobile company. Through subsidiaries and associate companies, Tata Motors has operations in the UK, South Korea, Thailand and Spain. Among them is Jaguar Land Rover, a business comprising the two iconic British brands that was acquired in 2008. In 2004, it acquired the Daewoo Commercial Vehicles Company, South Korea's second largest truck maker. The rechristened Tata Daewoo Commercial Vehicles Company has launched several new products in the Korean market, while also exporting these products to several international markets. Today two-thirds of heavy commercial vehicle exports out of South Korea are from Tata Daewoo. In 2005, Tata Motors acquired a 21% stake in Hispano Carrocera, a reputed Spanish bus and coach manufacturer, and subsequently the remaining stake in 2009. Hispano's presence is being expanded in other markets. In 2006, Tata Motors formed a joint venture with the Brazil-based Marcopolo, a global leader in body-building for buses and coaches to manufacture fully-built buses and coaches for India and select international markets. In 2006, Tata Motors entered into joint venture with Thonburi Automotive Assembly Plant Company of Thailand to manufacture and market the company's pickup vehicles in Thailand. The new plant of Tata Motors (Thailand) has begun production of the Xenon pickup truck, with the Xenon having been launched in Thailand in 2008. They're capitalized at USD 20 billion per year.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 10 - 07:37 PM "..., the righties don't mind usin' this very threatening language ..." and I want to be better than them. "self defense" is when they are directly attacking YOU. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 23 Aug 10 - 07:37 PM Hey, the worst thing that Ford ever did was buy Jaguar... Jacguars have been junk for decades and Ford wasn't gonna fix that and make a profit... So Ford just kicked the junk can down the road until they found a sucker to take it off their hands... As fir US dollars capitalizin' foriegn firms??? This oughtta be considered treason unless the unemployement in the US is at or below 4%, which is considered to be a "full employed" economy... But what makes it worse is that other countries are subsidizing US corporations with goodies like building the plants, roads and infastructure for them which are not considered of any particular value to the IRS??? Waht??? That's right... If a US corporation moves it's operations to China and China builds them a billion dollar factory and just falt out gives it to them to get them there then that factory is not considered to be a taxable assest by the IRS??? What the hell is wrong with this picture??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: GUEST,Neil D Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:47 AM We may never know who among the leadership of the Nation of Islam may have directly ordered the killing of Malcolm X. We DO know that John Ali, national secretary of the Nation of Islam, the man Malcolm considered his archenemy, was an FBI undercover agent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 24 Aug 10 - 04:12 PM Well, if the Nation of Islam has anythinng to do with Martin's assasination you can taake it to the bank that they were in cahoots with the other conspirators, many of whok, I suspect came from the Heritage Foundation... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Donuel Date: 24 Aug 10 - 07:11 PM I just spent the day at Gettysburg National battlefield. In that light, what you are discussing here is not an academic issue but a reality. Once you set a mtach to ethnic anxiety and religious hatred (or visa versa) it takes a long time to burn itself out or kill enough people that the survivors agree to stop combat operations. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Kent Davis Date: 24 Aug 10 - 09:13 PM Wow! Mr. Bobert, Sir, I knew the Heritage Foundation (founded in 1973 http://www.heritage.org/about/our-history/history ) was powerful, but I had no idea that its "conspirators" could travel back in time. Do you suppose that, after they killed Martin Luther King, Jr., they went on back to shoot Lincoln? Kent |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 25 Aug 10 - 08:56 AM Got a good book for you to read, Kent, about how the Heritage Foundation took into it's ranks former Nazi and Nazi sympathizers... Okay, it might be the Heritage Coucil... I'll find the book and PM the name and author to ya'... Good reading and expalins alot... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 25 Aug 10 - 05:44 PM Only extreme left wing organizations are permissible in Bobert's philosophistry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 25 Aug 10 - 07:28 PM Bobert, The more you feed it, the more it grows. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 25 Aug 10 - 08:36 PM Left wing ain't what it used to be, Qzer... Shoot, with evrything going to the right ar warp speed a 60's Republican would be considered left wing... Maybe "extreme left wing"... It'd be "lol" if it weren't so true... I mean, stuff like basic economices is now way the heck out there in leftie field... Stem cell resaecrh??? The same... Allowing women to have abortions if theu so choose??? No further left than that and that's why all these things are tagets of the right... And they plan to snuff them all out... It's all part of their plan... I mean, the US of A is becoming the laughing stock of the civilized world... Of course, with bigass nuclear warheads most folks try to hide their laughter... Who knows, Sarah Plain could become president and I think that folks around the world know that she'd be mighty trigger happy, you know, being a moose hunter... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: LadyJean Date: 26 Aug 10 - 12:11 AM I would much rather find out that Glenn Beck has been caught in a compromising situation with somebody he shouldn't be compromised with. I'm not fussy about who. A male model, a Berskire pig, an illegal alien would all do, as long as it happens on a slow news day, and there's a video on UTube. Morton Downey Junior, a despicable piece of slime who polluted the airwaves in the eighties, destroyed his own career, when he claimed to have been attacked by a gang of skinheads in a mens room somewhere. It turned out there was no attack and no skinheads, he just wanted some extra press coverage. With luck the current crop of slime will destroy themselves too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 26 Aug 10 - 04:03 AM LadyJean: "I would much rather find out that Glenn Beck has been caught in a compromising situation with somebody he shouldn't be compromised with. I'm not fussy about who. A male model, a Berskire pig, an illegal alien would all do, as long as it happens on a slow news day, and there's a video on UTube." ...And I wish he, as well as you, even Firth, and Ebbs, the very best, and to be right in their hearts in every way. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 27 Aug 10 - 12:35 PM Heard Health and Welfare is considering subsidizing plus size elevator shoes for left feet. They would serve to bring those who lean seriously to the left, like Bobert, back towards center. A built-in alarm would let right-thinking people know when a left-leaner is abroad without prosthesis. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: olddude Date: 27 Aug 10 - 12:39 PM As long as they don't take away my 2nd amendment rights before I hunt down the skunk that sprayed me last night and kill his ass. Oh yes he will be mine tonight .. oh yes he will be mine .. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 27 Aug 10 - 04:42 PM olddude" "Oh yes he will be mine tonight .. oh yes he will be mine .." Are you going to eat him? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Amergin Date: 27 Aug 10 - 08:44 PM Sing Along Second Amendment |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: kendall Date: 28 Aug 10 - 02:35 AM I visited an old friend yesterday and as usual, we discussed the condition of the country. He said something I want to share and get opinions on. The way the right wingers get and hold power is to keep the masses distracted with minor issues such as, abortion,a community center for Muslims, gay rights, etc. that keep our minds off the real problems such as unemployment, run away borrowing, the rise of China as a military power now equal to our own. They now have the technology to destroy our communication satellites making them useless in a battlefield situation. Their radar is a generation ahead of us, their military budget is the second largest in the world, and where do they get the money? FROM US! Let's wake up to the real problems! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: kendall Date: 28 Aug 10 - 02:40 AM Let's give the right wing something to worry about, let's build that library next to Sara Palin's house! |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 28 Aug 10 - 08:29 AM Exactly, Capt'n... This is purdy much what I just said on another thread... Way too many epsilons these days without the ability to think critically... Critical thinking is the cornerstone of a working democracy and it's missing on the right (wrong) side of the equation... Therefore, it's not real probelsm that involve having some give 'n take but emotional ones that are being spoonfed to the epsilons where there is not give 'r take... "You're either with us or against us" is a prime example of an inability to think critcally... Everything has to be black or white... This thinking won't solve any problems but compound the ones we have... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 28 Aug 10 - 03:33 PM Adv, from amazon.com- Left/Right Brain Essence. $15/one ounce bottle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Stringsinger Date: 28 Aug 10 - 03:50 PM The Second Amendment is a political football that is misinterpreted by Wing-nuts. It has a loose meaning in it's language which means that you could take it literally by forming a militia to quell foreign enemies but this is subject to a great deal of misleading facts. The NRA doesn't care about who they claim are foreign enemies or who is a criminal. Shoot first and ask questions later is their motto. Gun running is a big business in the U.S. Selling weaponry for both sides of countries engaged in wars is bolstering the Military Industrial Complex. The IRA is tied into this idea by promoting an indiscriminate use of guns to solve problems. You have auto licenses that are administered by state governments which require that you have to be able to drive responisbly. There are no real regulations for this for gun owners. Gun owners need to be licensed in the same way as drivers. The ones that scream loudest that their guns will be taken away by the government probably shouldn't have them in the first place. (Post office killings and shooting abortion doctors are a case in point). Also, gun owners can have their weapons stolen by professional criminals quite easily. It happens all the time. Some gun-toters are macho enough to think they can compete in a gun battle with professional killers. 2nd Amendment Remedies are a form of intimidation and threats against those on the Left. What if the tables were turned? (Cliche of the year: ah'm jus' sayin') |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: kendall Date: 28 Aug 10 - 05:39 PM String, I have no fear that a professional killer will ever be interested in icing me, and I'm sure I can hold my own against most muggers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 28 Aug 10 - 07:28 PM Bad, strings, bad... No critical thinking... Didn't you read the sign??? B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Stringsinger Date: 29 Aug 10 - 03:30 PM I read this sign, B, about guns and the NRA, Angle mentioned 2nd Amendment Remedies. Tell me what is wrong with what I said, please. Kendall, I'll take your word for it that you can defeat a career criminal who knows how to use a weapon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: GUEST,kendall Date: 29 Aug 10 - 07:31 PM I'm not a career criminal, but I am a career law enforcement officer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 29 Aug 10 - 07:34 PM Jus' funnin' with ya' Strings fir, ahhhh, actually thinkin'... lol... No problem with anything you said... Jus' bein' silly... I donno, Capt'n... I heard that the locals have are sittin' on a warrent fir yer arrest fir... ...killing time... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: olddude Date: 29 Aug 10 - 07:49 PM Bobster you know I love you man, but this is kinda disturbing post .. lets don't talk about wackin anyone ok .. even though it is in jest |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: olddude Date: 29 Aug 10 - 07:51 PM That is of course except that skunk that nailed me ... but Lizzie talked me into giving him a reprieve ... so as long as he stays away I won't go after him |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 29 Aug 10 - 08:06 PM I ain't wackin' nobody, Ol'ster... And this ain't a jokin' thread... I mean, here we have an entire segment of the population that thinks it's perfectly okay to go around threatening liberals and Dems with "2nd Ammendment Remedies" and this kinda brings up some very bad memories when these folks did exactly that... I don't think it is unreasonable for the left to, at the very least, not take another round of Redneck Nation's assasinations with them thinking, haha, them liberals won't shoot back... Hey, someone try to "wack" me and they had better get me first 'cause this ol' hillbilly shoots mighty straight and I will shoot back... That's where I part company with Dr. King... That's all I'm sayin' other than I ain't advocatin' offin' nobody... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: olddude Date: 29 Aug 10 - 09:46 PM ok just checkin up with you Bobster ... ya gots me kinda worried. I like it better when you are shoot the bull with a geetar in your hands |
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Subject: RE: BS: 2nd Ammendm't Remedies 4 the Left... From: Bobert Date: 29 Aug 10 - 09:52 PM ...and fir the record, I don't shoot no farm animals... And if I did I'd use a rifle and not a geetar... But I don't... B~ |
