Subject: RE: Folklore: Nursery rhymes :) From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 28 Mar 23 - 08:36 AM Fresh off the slab .... Old Mother Hubbard went to the cupboard To feed her poor dog in a hurry; When she got there, the cupboard was bare, And so they sent out for a curry. |
Subject: RE: Folklore: Nursery rhymes :) From: GUEST Date: 28 Mar 23 - 05:06 AM RJM Do you have evidence for either of these assertions? |
Subject: RE: Folklore: Nursery rhymes :) From: GUEST,R J M Date: 28 Mar 23 - 02:40 AM The "three blind mice" were Protestant loyalists (the Oxford Martyrs, Ridley, Latimer and Cranmer), accused of plotting against Queen Mary I, daughter of Henry VIII who were burned at the stake, the mice's "blindness" referring to their Protestant beliefs.12 Oct 2019 |
Subject: RE: Folklore: Nursery rhymes :) From: GUEST,R J M Date: 27 Mar 23 - 01:46 PM medieval wool tax The stuff of nightmares. Baa Baa Black Sheep is about the medieval wool tax, imposed in the 13th Century by King Edward I. Under the new rules, a third of the cost of a sack of wool went to him, another went to the church and the last to the farmer. |
Subject: RE: Folklore: Nursery rhymes :) From: Claire M Date: 09 Aug 12 - 07:16 AM Hiya, I luv your one, bill/sables! Oh the Grand old Duke of York, He had 1,000 men He said he felt a little queer & had them all again |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Falkirk dave Date: 29 Aug 99 - 10:22 AM Puff the magic dragon lived all alone, he didn't have a dragon friend that he could call his own. Then one day he found one, a lovely bit of stuff. But he didn't know what to do with her, that's why they called him Puff Thankyou, I've enjoyed this site |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: crooner Date: 28 Aug 99 - 12:24 AM This is to McKnees about Knick Knack Paddy Wack. I just used that as an example in my thread about sexual euphemisms in folk music and I should have said nursery rhymes as well. You ask where it comes from; I think it comes from the dirty old man playing with the young girl: one: thumb two:shoe (funky) three: knee four: "door"; well, you get it, he's touching her all over...that's where it comes from, says I... |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: deb_page@hotmail.com Date: 27 Aug 99 - 09:04 PM Here's a cute one for you sharp minded folks :-> THE WOODCHUCK'S PORTRAIT Sit still, Mr. Woodchuck, As still as can be, Till the picture is finished And then you shall see. It is not every woodchuck Who has such a chance As this set before him, His worth to enhance. So please to sit still, sir, And perk up your ears; Wear a pleasant expression And quiet all fears. Look straight at the camera, This is earnest, not fun. All ready? Click! Now, sir, The picture is done. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: katlaughing Date: 27 Aug 99 - 06:43 PM The Duel
The gingham dog and the calico cat
The gingham dog went, "Bow-wow-wow!"
The Chinese plate looked very blue,
Next morning, where the two had sat, Eugene Field |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: catspaw49 Date: 26 Aug 99 - 11:34 AM Would that be on the liberal or conservative side of the political spectrum? No matter, it's really a circle and they join up at that point. ......and now......
Peter T. is a man of intelligent thoughts, |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: dick greenhaus Date: 26 Aug 99 - 10:55 AM Someone once wrote "The Perfect Reactionary" As I was sitting on a chair I knew the bottom wasn't there Nor legs nor back, but there I sat Ignoring little things like that
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Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Lady McMoo Date: 26 Aug 99 - 09:32 AM Willy was a watch dog Lying in the grass Along came a bumble bee And ... Sorry! mcmoo |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Bert Date: 26 Aug 99 - 09:27 AM You're doing a grand job there 'nut. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: black walnut Date: 26 Aug 99 - 09:16 AM margarita, this year i'm specializing in teaching music and movement for classes of 0-3 year olds with their parents and caregivers. it is part of the early chilhood music programme at a wonderful local conservatory. music and poems are magic for wee ones. i teach a real mix of children. my own daughter has a learning disability (which required speech therapy from the age of 1 1/2), and music was the first tool that reached her well. songs were the first words she 'spoke'. now, just about to enter grade 7, she just took a HUGE leap forward this summer, to our shock and amazement, by reading The Hobbit all by herself, in a week no less! i have taught everything from high school bands to private flute lessons to seniors, but my passion now is teaching the tiniest of human creatures ~ they soak in the melodies, the rhythms, the phrasing, the games, the surprises, the cuddles... ~ and there is the aspect of teaching the accompanying adult as well ~ so many adults tell me that they have found their voices for the first time in my classes, and that they now sing to their own children rather than always putting on a cd or a video. two parents told me a while back that they spent a whole week together at a cottage with their little ones, singing over and over the songs they'd learned in class, doing the bouncers, playing the games... in my collection, i have hundreds and hundreds of wonderful songs for early childhood, mostly very simple to learn. i refuse to teach anything i do not really love for one reason or another. everything i choose must have real value. there is a lot of 'garbage' music for kids out there. but i am not at all limited. there is much to laugh and sing with, both in the trad. category, and the newly~composed. thank you one and all for the fun rhymes (as i said above, there are some of these i'll put on the blackboard just for fun reading for parents as they come into the room). i am quite enjoying this thread. ~black walnut |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 25 Aug 99 - 06:41 PM mary gets around, doesn't she?
Mary had a little lamb |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Nogs Date: 25 Aug 99 - 04:49 PM Mary had a little sheep And with this sheep she liked to sleep But this sheep it was a ram So Mary had a little lamb Nogs |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Aug 99 - 03:35 PM Sorry guys........and you're right Bert!!!
Little Boy Blue
Baa Baa Black Sheep
Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Aug 99 - 03:26 PM Sorry guys........and you're right Bert!!!
Little Boy Blue Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 25 Aug 99 - 01:38 PM What about "Coddlestun pie"? A fly can't bird, but a bird can fly! |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Den Date: 25 Aug 99 - 01:23 PM Sorry Bert, how about these? Mary had a big steel cow She milked it with a spanner The milk came out in shilling (approx. 5p) tins And little ones for a tanner (approx. 3.5p) Little Jack Horner he sat in a corner Eating his Christmas pie He stuck in his thumb and pulled out a plumb And said aaaaaargh Jeez thats hot |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Bert Date: 25 Aug 99 - 12:52 PM Phew! this should be a happy thread! What with 'Spaw & Bill in Alabama I'm struggling here, then Den comes along. My son's boss, lost his sixteen year old son in a road accident at the weekend, the funeral is today. I don't know how they can cope with it. Bert. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Margo Date: 25 Aug 99 - 12:40 PM MMario, shame on you. I mentioned a Spacechild's Mother Goose and posted a poem earlier in the thread. I checked it out at the booksellers, and since it's out of print they wanted $50 for it. I decided to borrow my sister's copy. I am very fortunate that my 6 (soon to be seven) year old girl loves going to school. More precisely, she like going to school; she loves to ride the school bus. She likes school in general, and gets mad if there is a holiday. School for her starts on the first of September, so she will be happy soon to ride the bus. Black Walnut, is that special ed or regular preschool? My kids both went to early intervention (autism) and there were some poems and songs they liked. Margarita |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: bob schwarer Date: 25 Aug 99 - 12:10 PM Catspaw: I can't handle Little Boy Blue very well either. Memories of a life that never was keep coming back.But I'm glad I mentioned it. Need to remember once in a while. Bob S. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Den Date: 25 Aug 99 - 12:07 PM Hey diddle diddle the cat did a piddle right in the middle of the floor the little dog laughed to see such fun so the cat did a little bit more I have a few more but I made the mistake of reading the little boy blue thread even though I should have been prepared by Spaw's comments. It made me think of my own kids and starting school/going back to school, which they will do next Thursday. I found the first day my youngest started to be a very traumatic day for us. My wife and I were quivering wrecks. I'll never forget when we finally had to leave the room and leave him with his new class mates and teacher. He was so small, the smallest in the class. He started school on the day of his fifth birthday. He was realy scared. We could see it in his eyes. He wears glasses so his eyes were magnified even more. We couldn't speak as we backed out the door. The lump in my throat felt like it would choke me. Anyway this is not a nursery rhyme but I dedicate it to all the parents who's kids are going back to school, especially for those who have little ones starting for the first time.
Wee Hughie It always brings a tear to my eye when I recite it and since my own children came along I can never make to the last verse. Den the blubbering fool |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Bert Date: 25 Aug 99 - 11:24 AM This is a MUST for any lover of 'The Owl and the Pussycat' The French version is great and the illustrations are fantastic. LEAR Edward: LE HIBOU ET LA POUSSIQUETTE ; Rupert Hart Davis, The Owl and the Pussycat in French, freely translated by Francis Steegmuller. Illustrated by Monique-Alika Watteau. You can probably find it at www.bibliofind.com |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Cara Date: 25 Aug 99 - 11:11 AM I can't find the "Little Boy Blue" thread mentioned above. Can someone post a link? Wynken, Blynken and Nod is my favorite childhood poem. I asked a mother in my office if she knew it yesterday and when she said no, I printed it up and made her promise to read it to her little girl. I love the Sugar-Plum Tree too. Reading them makes me happy. For some reason I thought I was the only one who knew them though; I didn't realize that it was so widely loved. It's good to know. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Barbara Date: 25 Aug 99 - 11:08 AM Here's the previous thread on Little Boy Blue Blue clicky thing.
Custard was in my Big Golden Book of Poetry --
Belinda lived in a little white house
Now the name of tha little black kitten was Ink,
All the other critters perform great acts of daring do, while "Custard just cries for a nice safe cage." He was my absolute favorite.
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Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Bill in Alabama Date: 25 Aug 99 - 10:51 AM Catspaw-- About twenty years ago, I was visiting my grandparents' graves at a little east Tennessee cemetery with the daughter and son (ages 10 and 7). It was near Thanksgiving; The mist had crept up from the hollow, and we could hear thunder bragging about a storm on the other side of the ridge--a typical east Tennessee November day. Just a few graves down from the Foster plot, I noticed, of all things, a fresh, bakery-made birthday cake with eight candles in front of a small tombstone. The candles were not lit, but the blackened wicks indicated that they had been. The inscription on the stone showed that the child had died at age four. It's an image that I still carry around with me. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Roger the zimmer Date: 25 Aug 99 - 10:41 AM 'Spaw, sadly, here, too many tokens of childhood on graves are stolen or vandalised, if not banned altogether by Church or cemetery regulations. My wife is an assistant churchwarden and last weekend I helped her tidy up some church records by reconciling details on recent graves with the paperwork. Sadly, there were several recent ones of child deaths and a couple of promising teenagers lost to road accidents. Even a cynical old jokester like myself, can't help but be moved by the toys & tokens left by their friends and relatives. Roger |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Jon W. Date: 25 Aug 99 - 10:22 AM I've always liked this one, because I think it says a lot about how we think of each other and our differences:
Comical Folk
In a cottage in Fife lived a man and his wife
Whenever they'd sleep, I'm told that to keep |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Aug 99 - 10:07 AM Well, I hadn't checked in here in a few days, and I thought, why not, I need a laugh.....and indeed I got some from PJ and Barbara and the rest of you..........until I encountered "Little Boy Blue"..............oh gawd............. I guess I was a kind of sensitive kid (believe it or not) and that poem really got to me then, and indeed, for many years to come. At age 42, I finally became a Dad and now at age 50, it's all I can do to even get a few words of it out before choking up and crying like a fool. About the time Tris was born, Karen and I were "back home" and searching the large cemetery at Schoenbrunn where my family is buried for a "missing" aunt buried in a different section. Quite unexpectedly, we stumbled upon a section of the grounds reserved for children. On and around the monuments and markers were dolls, trains, fire trucks, stuffed animals, and other toys .............I can't even talk about it. We stood there in tears and holding each other and wondered what the parents and relatives must feel. Some of these deaths had occurred 40 or 50 tears before....and still the little trucks and dolls............"Little Boy Blue" didn't just flash into my mind, it exploded there................I wonder what happens to the toys placed there at the graves. Does someone take them away after a time? Do the parents exchange them for others? Doesn't matter, but if they came back and they were gone, I'd feel as though my child had taken them off and played with them.....might help.....or maybe not. Today was the first day back at school for Tris and Michael, ages almost 7 and almost 8..........I cannot imagine what we would feel, be, or do without them. Just found out that a friend's little 10 year old boy, a Down Syndrome child, was diagnosed with Leukemia. Ain't life just grand? Probably the ONLY subject where Catspaw doesn't go for a laugh........................ Spaw---Looking forward to a "great" day |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 25 Aug 99 - 08:58 AM Custard the Cowardly Dragon? Never heard of such a thang! Do tell us more... |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Bert Date: 25 Aug 99 - 08:43 AM Ever seen two white ghosts sittin' on two white posts eatin' bread and crusts with their dirty fusts (fists) |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Barbara Date: 24 Aug 99 - 08:21 PM Bob,there's a thread on Little Boy Blue -- someone set it to music. Try forum search. Am I the only person who loved Custard the Cowardly Dragon (Ogden Nash)? Blessings, BArbara |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: bob schwarer Date: 24 Aug 99 - 08:12 PM Eugene Field wrote "Little Boy Blue". You need to read that sometime. Bob S. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Jeri Date: 24 Aug 99 - 05:45 PM MM, I love "Wynken, Blynken & Nod." It's by Eugene Field, who also wrote "The Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat." Are we looking at the same book? I have another old book somewhere called, I think, "Silver Pennies" and has poems for children that are mainly about faeries. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Llanfair Date: 24 Aug 99 - 04:39 PM Does A.A.Milne count? "I had a little beetle And beetle was his name I called him Alexander And he answered just the same I put him in a matchbox and I kept him all the day But Nanny let my beetle out Nanny let my beetle out But Nanny let my beetle out And beetle ran away" What about Struwelpeter? instant nightmares!! Hwyl, Bron. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 24 Aug 99 - 04:17 PM finding all sorts of stuff I haven't seen for ages....
including: WYNKEN, Blynken, and Nod one night |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 24 Aug 99 - 04:07 PM Maybe I am part of the 6%.... found this....
There once were two cats of Kilkenny, Which I haven't seen since I was in High School too many decades ago.... what I was looking for was the Ginham Dog and the Calico Cat.
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Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 24 Aug 99 - 03:36 PM As I was going down the stairs I met a man who wasn't there He wasn't there again today Because the cops dragged him away. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: bob schwarer Date: 24 Aug 99 - 02:33 PM There was a little girl Who had a little curl Right in the middle of her forehead When she was good She was very,very good But when she was bad she was terrific. Keep 'em coming. Bob S. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 24 Aug 99 - 02:20 PM or this one I just found....
Mary had a swarm of bees |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Bert Date: 24 Aug 99 - 02:15 PM Mary had a little lamb Who had a sooty foot and into Mary's bread and jam his sooty foot he put |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 24 Aug 99 - 02:08 PM Have you seen the Space Child's Mother Goose? among others, the one I remember is:
Higgedly,Piggedly, My Black Hen This one is repeated thorughout the book in various languages, including one copy in egyptian hieroglyphics. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: black walnut Date: 24 Aug 99 - 01:52 PM i hope i can encourage you to add more quirky nursery rhyme versions (not TOO quirky though) to this thread, and not change topic on me. i teach early childhood music, and i was thinking that some of these would be fun for the parents to read on the blackboard as they come in for classes. (but at the same time, i MUST maintain the integrity of the school i work for....:-) ) lots of fun, ~black walnut
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Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: MMario Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:30 AM Joe - if you wade through that morass of technological language you will see that Bleessings B DID tell PJ how to do a line break. BTW ladies, I applaud you! That was actually one of the most clear concise and useful descriptions of how to use HTML language codes I have seen! MMario |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Aug 99 - 03:29 AM Say, Barbara, do you think we should tell PJ that the way to do a line break is <br>...or is it more fun just to watch PJ's frustration???-Joe Offer, the <br> king- |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 23 Aug 99 - 01:31 AM PJ, so that's where you were when I was going all flubbery trying to play "Jimmy Brown the Newsboy" at the Starry Plough (and maybe I'd better look back at Thursday's posts to see if that's also why you didn't make it to Quinn's). One of my former students came in tonight (after I had sung), in the company of Jessica, John's daughter (John who was sitting with us last Sunday). --seed |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Barbara Date: 23 Aug 99 - 01:13 AM P.S. PJ, your approach to BOLD reminds me of the time Calvin tried the remote control on his dad. |
Subject: RE: BS: Nursery rhymes :) From: Barbara Date: 23 Aug 99 - 01:09 AM PJ, when you calm down a little you will notice that these dang machines and codes do what we say not what we want. 'B'in the little pointy things [angle brackets], as you have just discovered, gives you BOLD Whereas, putting 'BR'in the little pointy things gives you a line BReak. And BOLD, as you noted in your message, doesn't go away until you tell it to stop by putting '/B' in another cute little set of pointy things. Ain't computers wonderful? Blessings, Barbara |
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