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Subject: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Rick Fielding Date: 22 Aug 99 - 02:50 PM This came up in another thread, but I think it might have a life of it's own. I have to say right from the start, folks who "play without listening to the song" (usually at jam sessions)send me scurrying off very quickly. For me this can take many forms: The guitarist (or whatever) who doesn't know the chord structure but still plays loudly over it. The person intent on showing everyone just how much they know in the shortest time possible, and of course, the "speed demon" who probably has not invested a God-damned (excuse the profanity but this is a "hot button" for me) thing in the music other than the time spent learning to play it. I accept that I'm an "old fogey" about this, but I felt exactly the same way when I was 18, so I've always BEEN an old fogey about the music that I love. A couple of anecdotes that I've kept close to my heart for many years explain my position far better than I could in my own words. Jean Ritchie tells of playing with Doc Watson at Gerde's in New York. She was a little intimidated by his prodigious technique, and asked him to play guitar for her on several songs rather than do her own accompaniment, which she said was "really, really simple". She sang. He played. She was amazed at how simply he accompanied the songs with nary a tough lick. "He played those songs EXACTLY the way I did". I doubt very much if Jean was as surprised as she let on in print 20 years later. I'm sure that within 2 minutes of meeting him, she knew that Doc knew what the music was all about. The other little story that stuck with me concerns a Bill Monroe recording session in the late 50s. The band kicked into a number and then came to an abrupt halt. Porter Church the banjo player, can be heard saying. "Sorry, I didn't play the song". Ten to one he didn't make a mistake...he just felt there was a right way and a wrong way to play the introduction. That's a kind of pride in your work that I truly admire. I've always been an improviser (probably because of a short attention span when it comes to learning something note-for note) and over the years I've accumulated a large satchel of licks and tricks, but if I was ever tempted to use flash in place of content, I would feel I was betraying the people who taught me. The debt I owe to those early influences like Pete Seeger,(and Mike and Peggy of course) Carter Stanley, Rev. Davis, Jean Carignan, Carthy and Swarbrick, Merle Travis, Tommy Makem and the Clancys, The Delmore Bros., Horton Barker, and so many others is incalculable. Good grief, I didn't mean this to be as heavy as it appears, considering that a lot of my time on Mudcat is taken up with bad jokes and such. Truth is though, I feel it's so important to invest as much in the music as you take from it. Rick (stepping off soap-box) |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Barbara Date: 22 Aug 99 - 02:58 PM An associated problem is CCD -- Complicated Chord Disorder. I'm not sure if it was Eric Schoenfeld who coined the term, but it describes someone who has learned all those amazing up-the-neck-and-needs-6-fingers chords like F#major diminished 6 or whatever, and so they USE em, by God, in Red River Valley, and too bad for the rest of you that don't know 'em. I think he also defines it as using 4 complex chords when one will do. The fiddle player in our band used to complain about a local bluegrass group --Sawtooth Mountain Boys-- that played everything in Eb, dunno why, but it sure kept people from jamming. (Do you suppose....) Blessings, Barbara |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 22 Aug 99 - 03:09 PM Gee, Rick, I hope you weren't thinking about me. You told me to use three chords. **grin** I do admit to using all of 'em more than once, but it seemed to fit. Thanks for the memory! Big RiB |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Lady McMoo Date: 22 Aug 99 - 03:30 PM Just hotfoot from the "elitist" session thread, I'm right with you on this one Rick. I know too many people who are technically brilliant, far better players than me, but who can kill a song , session or whatever because they don't have a jot of feeling for the music. mcmoo |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Bluesy Date: 22 Aug 99 - 03:43 PM Rick, I'm not sure if I have already told this story on the 'Cat or not, but it sure sums up what you're saying. My dad collected Jazz records and one day came home with one he had found in a delete bin by a guitarist that he had never heard of. This guy was a ridiculously fast player. One night a good friend of his came over to visit. You may know of him, Gary Benson, a very respected Toronto Jazz guitarist. My dad couldn't wait to play his newest 'discovery'. Gary listened politely and when my dad flashed him a 'So whadda ya think' look Gary thought for a second and said "well, he's talking, but he's not saying anything". I have found myself thinking this about a lot of players I've heard. Steve Latimer (From My sister's Computer) |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Melodeon Date: 22 Aug 99 - 05:14 PM When I first started playing music in public I was given a bit of advice by an old accordian player. "If you don't know the tune very well play it loud and fast." That has stuck with me for over 30 years and I am reminded of it time and time again. Meodeon |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Rick Fielding Date: 22 Aug 99 - 07:27 PM Back in the 40s Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach and a few others had regular jam sessions. They knew how quickly a jam can be ruined by players with more ego than talent, so they worked out a system to get rid of the ones who refused to LEARN the music before jamming with those who had pid their dues. The style that came out of those jams became known as Be-Bop! Guess it worked. Rick |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: bbelle Date: 22 Aug 99 - 10:56 PM I went to my first bluegrass session last night (harpgirl is determined to get me out there). I didn't sit in because it was really late, but I witnessed just what you're talking about. There were some really fine musicians there ... banjos, guitars, fiddles. One of the guitar players had the fastest fingers I've every seen ... but he didn't know what the hell he was playing! I watched his toe-tapping and when he was getting ready to change the tempo, his foot would start going faster and faster and he put his tongue under his bottom lip and got this really goofy look on his face. At one point, several of the musicians put down their instruments and walked away from the circle. What a waste of talent! I'm getting a real education, later in life that most of you, but interesting nonetheless. Next time I go, I'm going to sit in and really begin my education ... mc aka moonchild (now that Max has fixed the glitches, I'm going back to plain ol' "moonchild") |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: DonMeixner Date: 22 Aug 99 - 11:58 PM Rick, I once again must agree with you. Remember in "Jurrasic ParK" when the Malcom character said to Richard Attenborough " You got so exicited that you could do it ( Clone dinosaurs) that you never stopped to think wherher you should." or words to that effect. Its the same with music. I can play a raft of chords between C and F but why? A C7 fills the bill nicely Phil Ochs could get a little "Chordy" at times. Try Power and Glory witha few less chords and it will be fine. Now that my fingers aren't as fast or as precise as they once where I have to be much more aware of what I try to play than I used to. I think its very true that often "Less is more". Don |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Legal Eagle Date: 23 Aug 99 - 03:20 AM We had a guy came to our club the other night. Said he only knew 3 songs. Did Big yellow taxi. Now that used to be a 3 chord trick. He had some really clever bits in it - and used non-standard tuning too - a variant of open G. I think he must have been a jazzer somewhere, once. It took a boring old song and brought it alive, and his singing was nothing special. It was the guitar magic that did it. So there are two sides to the story. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Aug 99 - 07:44 AM I need to write down August 22 as a red letter day.....Jean Richie was spoken of in three threads!!! Sorry to be such a "JR Plugger" but this is EXACTLY the charm that she and others hold. It can be plain or fancy, fast or slow......but it's always true. Ricks comment above was spot on......and no matter what form that folk takes for you, you owe something to the music......you owe the truth. Interesting thought Don...........I don't want to go through what you have my friend, but as a way of stepping back and taking a look, maybe that's a way to think about it. And if you wanna resd a well done piece, true to the genre, go read Art's post in "MEAN Talkin' Blues." Since I love talkin blues and they go well with my sensse of humor and sarcastic tone of voice, I'm stealin' it right away!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Allan C. Date: 23 Aug 99 - 09:18 AM A few years back, when I was pretending to be a carpenter, I worked with an "ol' boy" who invited me to "come to the house and play a bit". I was glad for the opportunity. This guy had played guitar with one of the better known groups in the area - Blue Ridge Mountain Boys - and had also picked a little with the Country Gentlemen (although I'm pretty sure that he never recorded with them). The day came and I arrived at his house across the road from the Rockfish River (Remember? The one JohnBoy fished in). As soon as I got my guitar out of the case, he asked me to play. Well, I thought that I had better try to show off some of my best stuff. After all, this guy had played with some high-rollers. So I played and sang a song which required a mess of fancy strumming and a bunch of really great chords. It came out very well. I sat there, quite pleased with myself. Then I asked to hear what kind of stuff he liked to play. He produced some of most beautiful music of its kind I have heard. It didn't matter that he didn't have the best voice. The way he sang made the song live. He strummed very simply, hitting a fourth, fifth or sixth string from time to time with his thumb. He used two chords, D and A7, for the first song. I think he used as many as three for most of the rest of the songs I heard that day. It was great! I learned a lot that afternoon. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: JedMarum Date: 23 Aug 99 - 09:34 AM Allan C. - great story! |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Mike Billo Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:20 AM My favorite quote on this subject came from the late Dizzy Gillespie(already mentioned once in this thread). Apparently, he was somewhat of a prodigy, and was playing with some of the big name bands while still very young. An interviewer asked him, "How long did it take you to learn to play the trumpet?" Dizzy replied, "It took me 5 years to learn to play everything, and the next 35 to learn what not to play." |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Peter T. Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:38 AM Reminds me of an interview with the great art critic, John Berger, on the drawings of Watteau. He said that at the end of his life Watteau was able to draw people so simply that when his pencil stopped and turned, that would be bone; and when it moved, that would be flesh. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: bbelle Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:57 AM When I decided to learn to play guitar, my folks sent me to a "guitar teacher." Things went along fine for a couple of lessons, but I kept telling him that I wanted to be a "folksinger." He was a teacher of classical guitar and kept ignoring me, so after the third lesson I told him we had a definite conflict of interest, went out and bought a PP&M "Easy Chord Songbook," learned the basic chords, and started playing folk music. I've been able to play almost anything I wanted to play using those chords. With my small hands and short fingers, it was a g-dsend! Back then (in the mid-late '60's) musicians were using some very intricate, fancy chords and I think that's where I got the complex about playing guitar in a group. Of late, I've noticed really good musicians using the basic chords that I learned in the PP&M songbook, rather than the chords that take 6"-long fingers and an extra finger or two, to play ... moonchild
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Frank Hamilton Date: 23 Aug 99 - 12:00 PM When I was teaching I told my students, if you want to be a great musician all you have to do is something extremely difficult but basic as an idea: Play the right notes at the right time. BTW, please don't miss Jean Ritchie's newest CD, "Mountain Born". I loved it! Frank Hamilton |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Michael Ray Date: 23 Aug 99 - 12:40 PM I'm only recovering today from a music potluck that Cathy and I attended on Sat. The host is a fine piano and organ player and his partner plays guitar and sings blues. So Cathy got out her accordion and I my trusty J45 and so it went for two songs. Then we noticed we had been surrounded. On one side of us a guy was plugging in a Les Paul and on the other side it was a Telecaster. Talk about being outgunned!! And these guys were terrible!! Every attempt was blasted by these so-called musicians. They had no idea about the song or even the chord structure. All the Les Paul guy knew was riffs and the Tele guy was trying to play a screaming slide over the most sensitive songs. I did ask the Tele guy to please turn it down a little, but I didn't feel I could say too much at somebody elses home. Cathy and I both eased out of the room shortly. The scene was pretty caotic to say the least, and we put em' back in the case and left soon after. These are nice people and part of out community, and we don't want to turn into the 'jam police' or make for hard feelings. It feels like avoidance is the most likely thing to happen. Does anyone out there have some ideas about this kind of a situation? Michael Ray |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: j0_77 Date: 23 Aug 99 - 01:05 PM Reminds me of a certain place where I wuz fiddling around with a 'rare' trad Irish tune out of Breathneach's Book, any case I had a few folk listening. Just before I got done this ole boy jumps in there and say's - me still playing - 'gimme dat I'll show you how to play' - so I stopped an gave him the fiddle. He almost dragged the strings off the fiddle playing the most squaky horrid version of Rubber Dolly I ever heard.
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Aug 99 - 01:10 PM Frank.....We had a thread running just before you came to the 'Cat about best folk albums. I hate those damn things 'cause I get to thinking too much about which things to pick. Although "Mountain Born" almost comes off as too "clean".it truly is a nicely "rounded" album and gives a great taste of Jean's wonderful style. BTW, did you see the PBS thing on her, also called "Mountain Born?" Wasn't bad at all. I went to school at Berea College with a pair of nieces who were sitting on the porch in the special and I was amazed at how old they'd gotten while I on the other hand................ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Jack (who is called Jack) Date: 23 Aug 99 - 05:49 PM To me it always comes down to this, some people think that music is a vehicle for them, others realize that they are just a vehicle for the music. The former try to be musical calf ropers. They take their ability and use it to run down the music, wrestle it to the ground, tie up its legs and brand it with their own initials. (Barbera Streisand is the epitome of this kind of 'artist' which is why I can't stand her). The latter take their time, get to know the music, learn its ways so they can follow it wherever it might lead them, or sometimes to get it to follow them for a while. They never try to capture the music or make it over in their image. As far as those 'finger-happy' guitarists at jams go, I tend to be a little sympathetic towards them, partly because at one time that's what I wanted to be, with the idea that nobody goes WOW when you just play a nice set of simple chords. Its like what Greg Maddux said about Mark McGwire in baseball...'Chicks dig the long ball'. Also, when your just an amatuer like me, and you go to concerts or festivals, at least at first, you feel like everyone else is better than you, because, well, they are. It gets easy to tell yourself that you have to 'run to catch up' technically, and once you start down that road, sometimes you forget that its not a race and just keep running. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Peter T. Date: 23 Aug 99 - 06:13 PM I have been trying to describe why I hate Barbra Streisand for decades, and who was to know that the metaphor of choice was lurking on the rodeo circuit all the time?! A hand for that young cowboy! yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Rick Fielding Date: 23 Aug 99 - 07:10 PM Peter, she speaks so highly of you! |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Aug 99 - 09:37 PM And now she may just be lookin' down her snou...uh, ..nose at you! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 99 - 09:55 PM "I think I'll take my autoharp; go sit beneath a tree 'Cause all those fancy pickers are lookin' strange at me. They're pickin' loads of quarter notes, playin' in triple time, And I guess I've got a two-four heart, 'Cause C major, F major, C, G7, is all I had in mind.
Well, I love to hear those pickers pick, and watch their fingers fly.
I sit here with my autoharp, and happily recall
It's a summer's day, the sun is out, the leaves are hangin' still.
When I'm too old and feeble, the autoharp to play,
© Garrison Keillor...(about 1973) I got it from him at Winfield (had no idea who he was) and he sent me a copy...have used it in a number of situations that this thread remind me of..
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Bill D Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:01 PM pooh!...I prrof read and prrof read *grin*... for those with bad eyesight..the last verses
I sit here with my autoharp, and happily recall
It's a summer's day, the sun is out, the leaves are hangin' still.
When I'm too old and feeble, the autoharp to play, |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Cap't Bob Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:15 PM I have a bit of a problem.....not with break neck speed, but with increasing the tempo during a song. It happens most often when I'm excited about playing, playing with other folks or during a gig. Usually it's the first fifteen or twenty minutes until I relax a bit. Any ideas on how to overcome this problem?? Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Jack (Who is called Jack) Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:16 PM There's a song that has a chorus If the key of E is the people's key Then what is the key of the Bourqoisie? I ask this question most sincerely In what key do they play? I would be eternally grateful for all the lyrics if anybody knows where to find them. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: DonMeixner Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:22 PM Capt. Bob, You must be a banjo player. Don Jack, I have heard two bands do that song but not in the last 20 years. The Central park Sheiks and Bottle Hill. Can't help you further I'm afraid. Don |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: CarlZen Date: 23 Aug 99 - 10:33 PM Cap'n Bob I've found myself in the same situation. Sometimes it's that iothers in the group are doing the same thing and I get carried along, other times I know it's me. I think the first step is just the awareness that it is going on. What I do then is do my best to relax, and try to stay under control. Sometimes I can actually imagine the tempo to be slower than it actually is and can keep my concentration on the Song, rather than the extraneous stuff that tends to get in the way (nerves? fear? irrationality?) |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: WyoWoman Date: 24 Aug 99 - 12:41 AM Capt. Bob -- I've heard that thinking of baseball statistics helps... WyoWoman |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au Date: 24 Aug 99 - 06:02 AM I think pushing the tempo is a very common problem when you are anxious. I am a barely acceptable player anyway, and when I start pushing I become a lousy one. What I do is drop out and start humming either my part or the song. Eventually I relax and get the feel for the rythm again, although I have stayed out for the rest of the number at times. It takes some practice to jump back in the middle. Needless to say, I don't perform on stage where it might be a an unattainable luxury to drop out. Murray |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Banjer Date: 24 Aug 99 - 06:30 AM I had occasion to correspond with Jean Ritchie some time ago and of all the words we exchanged I believe what will stick with me for the rest of my life is her saying how beautiful 'simple' music sounds. We were discussing my lap dulcimer and I was saying how all I was able to play on it was 'simple' tunes. I too, have sat in at circles and have seen the folks trying to cram 3 chords into a space where one would do just fine, maybe that's why I don't get out to many of them anymore. I just sit around the house and play for my own enjoyment. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: GeorgeH Date: 24 Aug 99 - 08:24 AM Jack (wicJ): thanks for that lovely music vehicle analogy. And given the topic of this thread (unmusical egotists) is a pet hate of mine, thanks to the rest of you for the "breath of fresh air". G. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Cap't Bob Date: 24 Aug 99 - 05:51 PM Don ~~ I do play the banjo (how did you know?), however I also play the fiddle, penny whistle, and guitar while playing with the band and seem to have the same problem with whatever instrument I happen to be playing. WW ~~ about the only baseball statistic that I know is that our beloved Detroit Tigers are in the bottom of the basement again. Carl & Murray ~ apparently I'm not the only one with this problem....the trouble is that I usually get caught up in the moment and forget all about trying to relax. Perhaps I should tape a sign "relax" on all of the instruments I play. Thanks for the advice. Some people could possibly think that speeding up is an attempt to "show off" when actually it can just be an anxiety attack. Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: JR Date: 24 Aug 99 - 06:39 PM Cap't Bob... I'm probably a much better dancer than musician, so when I feel like I'm pushing the music I start tapping a foot or swaying... it seems to hold me in a more steady tempo. Banjer.. you hit the nail on the head... it's all about getting enjoyment out of it yourself, no matter who is better or worse. (or more or less folk) |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: joeler Date: 24 Aug 99 - 06:59 PM Cap't Bob, I belong to a group in the Detroit Area called the Silver Strings Dulcimer Society. We had a major problem with the guitars going faster than the hammer dulcimers. what solved the problem was, we put all the guitars, (the rhythum section) on one side of the church auditorium and the dulcimers on the other side. I don't think this really has anything to do with your question now that I re-read your comments. I might suggest, tapping your foot, taping yourself, or getting a metremone. (sp) What you are experiencing is very normal. It's really not a lot different than driving a car on a freeway and looking at your speed ometer and discovering that your going 80mph. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: DonMeixner Date: 24 Aug 99 - 07:09 PM Bob, Because I too play all those things and seem to speed up when ever I play by myself. Luckily my band has a drummer with the dependability of a metronome. Don |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 24 Aug 99 - 07:22 PM As I read this thread, I am grateful for the little singing group I meet with once a month. Not too many instruments and I am the flashiest player in the bunch, and I am not that flashy. So we play the music to encourage the song, not to show off our skills. When there is more than one guitar, it gives me an opportunity to play some melody lines instead of just strumming all the time. Ah, so often we are not grateful for the good in what we've got. Thanks for the reminder. Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au Date: 25 Aug 99 - 01:24 AM Bob. Perhaps you can convince the person who sits in front of you to get a T-shirt with "relax" printed on its back. (I recently saw one with an out-of-focus "relax" which would have the opposite effect.) Murray |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Les B Date: 25 Aug 99 - 06:04 PM Capt. Bob - I too have been noticing a speeding problem in my playing (I play banjo, guitar & fiddle, too) and am wondering if it has to do with age. At one time I thought I was pretty reliable on tempo, but now I'm in my mid 50's and am starting to wonder. I find that I tend to speed on the tunes I know the best ? !? I was told recently about a musician with perfect pitch who is starting to lose that ability, now that he's over the half century mark. I know, also, that you lose the ability to hear higher frequencies in your mid forties. This all sounds hopelessly depressing, but I assume one just learns to cope. (Think of those 90-year-old Blues players -- of course maybe that's why they play the blues !) In the group I play with we have a pretty solid bass player and she gives me the "ray" look which means I'm leaving her beat and going into the ozone. |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Rick Fielding Date: 25 Aug 99 - 06:08 PM Don't worry about it Les, that's what good bass players are for. Be thankful you don't have a drummer! You'd get more than the "ray"! Rick |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Jeri Date: 25 Aug 99 - 07:43 PM Les, hearing loss can happen due to age but isn't as common as some think. Chronic exposure to loud noise is more of a cause. In any case, the frequencies at which the loss occurs are a lot higher than those into which music falls. Unless you've noticed a problem hearing the music, I wouldn't worry. If you're concerned, a hearing test will tell you if you've lost anything. I don't have any idea what could be causing a rhythm problem. Maybe it's just that your subconcious mind wants you to play faster? |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: Cap't Bob Date: 25 Aug 99 - 10:23 PM Our band is currently down to just three. We lost out bass player quite a fue years ago. Not many of them around these parts. The fellow who plays guitar always blames me for speeding up and of course I blame him right back. Somehow the concertina player never get's any of the blame. Les,I also have problems with high frequencies and have been tested (not bad enough for a hearing aid yet) low notes come through just fine. We are in the same boat with the aging problem, however, I guess that happens to all of us sooner or later ~ the alternative is not all that desirable. It seems that I have always had the speeding up problem since I started playing around fifty years ago. Most likely being able to relax is the solution but in the excitment of the moment thinking about relaxing is rather difficult that's why some type of reminder may help. I have a friend who plays Irish fiddle tunes at warp speed & when I'm playing with him the problem is mainly trying to stay with him. Cap't Bob |
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Subject: RE: Don't pick so fast! Show-off! From: j0_77 Date: 26 Aug 99 - 02:10 AM Solution to fast tunes - don't play em at all untill you know the 'bowing' Irish tunes are - as any ould timer knows- ALLL bout bowings. Get that right then the tune will play itself. Happy fiddling :) |
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