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Subject: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:12 PM

I post this because I just re-recorded it to push the vocals forward. Does anyone have a really good version by someone of this song ... I am not happy with the way I do it my friends. I am no five string banjo player either ... play it more like a geetar so I have to learn to clawhammer. Gosh I wish I had Jerry's skill or Franks or Art's. Anyhow, I need a version Not the corries ok ...

Thanks much

diamond


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:14 PM

A L Lloyd, accompanied by Dave Swarbrick.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:17 PM

Thanks Dave
want to get a better version to work on ... mine is not quite there to my ear


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: GUEST,Kit Griffiths
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:48 PM

The version that I learned (in 1966!) was by Alex Campbell, on the album called either "Folk Session" or "Alex Campbell Sings Folk" depending on which label released it and when. The album is available at "Time Has Told Me" (http://time-has-told-me.blogspot.com/2007/10/alex-campbell.html)as a download, BUT, very unfortunately, where "The Bonny Ship the Diamond" SHOULD appear, "The Gresford Disaster" is repeated -so no help there, then! However, if you can find a copy of that album, or if any Mudcatter has one, it's worth a listen. (I have the LP, but I have no facility to rip it to mp3.)


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:31 PM

Thanks Kit


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:49 PM

There are a few versions on Youtube. I like this one!

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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:51 PM

How about this one Dan

The Corries

or this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_J-4ygR3zs&feature=related


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:52 PM

Also it's worth a reread of a previous thread from 2002

when was the Bonny ship the diamond lost?


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:54 PM

Thanks folks, this is my issue, is this a fast paced tempo or a bit more mellow ...how should it really be played? ... I don't want to jazz it up as it is folk like I do with st. James infirmary ... want to try to do it right if there is such a thing as right ... LOL I suspect I will know it when I feel it or hear it ... hard to explain hmmmmm


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 02:05 PM

The version I put a link to above is around the same speed as it was sung in the 70's.. that's probably why I like that version....


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 02:10 PM

At the risk of villified here as a 'traddie' I still like the temp etc of version from way way back by the then new young folk group The Waterson Family
Unfortunately the recording on you tube appears to be damaged as little chunks are missing :(


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Amos
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 02:36 PM

Nice job, Dan. I like that plain banjo background!


A


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 03:16 PM

I have not listened to the other versions. I have heard it done before, at a much faster tempo. I like it at the pace you set, Dan, and I don't see why you're complaining about your banjo. It sounds clean and just fine to me, esp. as your voice if stronger than it, so not overwhelmed. Thanks for posting!


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 03:31 PM

Thank you dear friends ... going to work on it just a bit more
:-)


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 03:56 PM

Dan, I enjoyed listening to you :)

I too like The Watersons singing it but I do have the LP "Alex Campbell Sings Folk" with this song on. If you would like me to put it onto a CD for you just pm me.


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Tootler
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 04:35 PM

I liked your version olddude. I thought the tempo about right but at the end of the day, you have to interpret the song as you feel it.

One hint, though. I think it would be better to pronounce "Peterhead" as it is spelt rather than "Peterheed" The locals will say "Peterheed", but their accent would be consistent with that. My Mother was from Aberdeen (just down the coast) and she normally said "Peterhead" as did my Grandmother. Your saying "Peterheed" kind of stood out. Not wrong, but it just did not fit with your natural accent.


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 04:39 PM

Tootler
thank you, One thing I do that I have to work on is to just sing- for some reason even in Irish songs I start to go into accents from time to time and that drives me crazy. I don't have an accent other than the hills :-) and sometime I listen and say .. where the heck did that come from LOL ... good catch my friend ... Spaw says I get anal about my songs .. I guess I do, I just try to get them as right and I can personally and I always appreciate the ear of a friend.


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 05:22 PM

Now this is a banjo player, the great Art Thieme doing Santa Fe Trail
Oh I wish Art ...
Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Gurney
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:12 PM

Hi, OD. I like the song sung in a hard, shouting manner. As if bawling over the noise in a pub, or out-of-doors.
Even Georgiansilver's pick is a little bit arty for me. But nearer to my taste.
When you do make a 'fair copy,' though, do garnish the QUAY with bonnie lasses! I imagined them floating away....:-)


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: olddude
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:38 PM

Gurney you are probably right, if you think about it these were guy that were getting ready to go hunt the whales ... probably lots of drink and food and bars ... probably is the way it was originally sung.


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:51 PM

It'll be bricht both the day and nicht when the Greenland
lads come hame
Wae a ship that's full of oil me lads money tae oor name
We'll mak the cradles for tae rock and the blankets for tae
tear
And every lass in Peterhead sing 'hushabye my dear'

sounds like a high old night to me :)


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Slag
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:58 PM

Gee, my post here dissappeared! I haven't had that happen in a long time. I guess the spectre of Mudcat is still with us! OOoooOOOoo Getting close to Halloween!


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Subject: RE: olddude version of Bonny ship diamond
From: Emma B
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 07:08 PM

olddude these lads are home with money from whaling burning their pockets! Maybe a little up tempo is appropiate but you have to hear it how you hear it and that's the folk process :)


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