Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: keberoxu Date: 30 Jun 17 - 02:56 PM I justify refreshing this thread because Mudcat Max name-checks the Black Keys here, and when I used the Mudcat search engine, there were not many mentions of the Black Keys as a best-selling award-winning US music group. Anybody who dislikes reading personal confessions about "what happened to me last night" can tune out here and now. The car radio was on last night while I drove home, after dark, down a state route with little traffic. And what I had was an experience that startled me emotionally, as musical experiences will do. This was a tune I could not identify. It turns out to be "Tighten Up," written and recorded in 2010 by the Black Keys; today, after waking up, one of the first things I did was search for what I heard, using one recalled verse from the lyrics, online. That verse got the correct search results in seconds. Why was I so driven and anxious to identify the song on the radio? The sound of this recording reminded me so forcefully of the popular blues-rock hybrid record singles from the 1960's, when I was, literally, a young and post-traumatic child. It was like waking up a part of me that has been out of action for a long time. The sound of music on the radio, if it appealed to me, used to be something on which I would focus my undivided attention. If you had seen me there and then, you would have seen me silently holding still and concentrating on the sound from the radio, trying to make a memory that I could recall, in order to play the music back silently in my mind at a later time. It was something to hold on to for a sense of security and stability. Well, it isn't the first time I have been reminded of my childhood by something composed and broadcast recently, and it won't be the last. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,crazy little woman Date: 11 Oct 10 - 12:39 PM two clarinets making love... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ai8Go9aqvw&feature=related |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 11 Oct 10 - 12:00 PM Thank Kat, I love that video, Boberts with his hubcap geetar ... How the heck Bobster did ya make a geetar outta a hub cap from a buick? LOL great job guys |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,Hootenanny Date: 11 Oct 10 - 11:57 AM I suspect that the Tishomingo that inspired this Spencer Williams number is the one in Mississippi rather than Oklahoma. It's good to hear New Orleans revival jazz played so well and not having the musicians hamming things up. Sadly appreciation for this style of jazz seems to be fading. Like the blues there is a vast treasure trove of music out there to be heard but your chances of hearing it on radio and television are pretty small. Hoot |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 11 Oct 10 - 11:27 AM I forgot to add that Tishomingo is a town in Oklahoma. It's also a National Wildlife Refuge. We saw a painted bunting there, the second one in our lives. There's also a Tishomingo in Mississippi. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 11 Oct 10 - 11:22 AM Here's a great blues number from Kansas City: Tishomingo Blues It even has counterpoint. This band is playing at Californo's TOMORROW. I hope to see you there. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: katlaughing Date: 10 Oct 10 - 10:33 PM LH, CLICK HERE and you can see and hear Bobert, Amos and others from the 2008 Getaway. Over on the righthand side, you'll see other links with Bobert! AND, I am pretty sure Sidewalk Bob at CDBaby is none other than Bobert.:-) |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Oct 10 - 09:17 PM Okay....so how do I find you on CDBaby? You can PM me the details. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,Bobert, on the road... Date: 10 Oct 10 - 09:14 PM Well, not really, LH... I mean, I got some stuff on my CD which you can hear samples of at CDBaby but... ...whereas lotta of people seem to be all about recordin', I just show and go... Ain't that big a deal anymore... Maybe when things settle down I'll do another studio session... B~ |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 10 Oct 10 - 12:02 PM Naw our Bobster is a shy old catter ... dang it ... come on Bob a little posting like my Canadian brother say EH' |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Oct 10 - 10:51 AM Hey, Bobert? Yew got enny of them ree-cordin's of yourn on the Net somewheres? Ah shore would like to hear 'em if'n Ah could.... (Note: The above is hillbilly lingo. If you need a translator, contact Snuffy Smith in Wes Jinny...) |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Bobert Date: 09 Oct 10 - 07:33 AM Good mornin', ya'll... Ol' hillbilly kinda useless in this thread 'cause gettin' ready to hit the road for Richmond (Richmond Folk Festival) and then to South Hill where me and the P-Vine will stay tonight and then on to NC tomorrow... But, there lotta really nice box sets of the old blues out there... One of the more re4cent ones is "Living Country Blues, An Anthology" a 3 CD set... Has the late Otha Turner (Mr. Othar) on the cover playin' a homemamde fife... Also recommend "Masters or Memphis Blues", a 4 CD set by JSP Records and one last one, "Memphis Blues, Important Postwar Blues", another 4 CD set by JSP Records"... As fir what I like??? All ya' gotta do is look at last night's set list to get a clue: R.L. Burnside's "Miss Maybelle" Lightnin' Slim's "Nothin' But the Devil" Son House's "Death Letter Blues" Muddy Water's "Rollin' & Tumblin'" During the sound check there was a little buzz in the PA that the sound guys were tryin' to find so they asked me just to play somethin' so what other than Slim Harpo's "King Bee"... Now, ya'll have fun... I'll check in when I can but if ya'll don't see me then I'm... ...covered up... Big "Hey" to Mizzi Azzizi... Good to see ya', sis... Gotta go now... B~ |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Slag Date: 09 Oct 10 - 02:47 AM And re accents, my Mom is a native Californian and her people were from Arkansas and my Dad and his folks were from Oklahoma. I grew up in the central San Juaquin Valley. Accent? I didn't have an accent, did I? I lived with my Aunt for my sophomore year in high school near San Fransisco. The kids kept asking me what part of the South I was from. Chee! guess it's what you'd call a Cali-Okie accent. Such things only become apparent when you change locations. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Slag Date: 09 Oct 10 - 02:38 AM Well DWDitty, knock me over with the high "E" string. That is something beautiful altight. The picking was real clean so now I'm confused (just a little) but your voice is unique, not quite what I'd say blues but bluesy soulful, earnest. I want to hear more. Thank you. OD, compadre! Muddy is certainly how I play but I don't know if anyone would call it the blues. They might be real sad after they heard it but it wouldn't be the blues. However I can bend a harmonica all out of shape but I need to do some studying on the guitar end of things. I can see I'm starting to get into trouble hanging around the 'cat too much! |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: katlaughing Date: 08 Oct 10 - 11:55 PM dw, that's beautiful. I love it! SpleeenCringe, don't know how I missed past mentions of Parr. Wow, esp. 1922! Thanks. Spaw...has it really been six years? Jaysus...still brings tears...ever the class act. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 11:33 PM Awesome DW ... as always ... just awesome |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: dwditty Date: 08 Oct 10 - 11:19 PM Well, lots would say this insn't blues, but I just made the video tonight, so here goes: Long Way Home There are others on the channel that are blues. dw |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,pattyClink Date: 08 Oct 10 - 10:02 PM This seems like a good place to mention this. I have been sitting here listening to an awesome collection of blues on the public teevee this evening. I hadn't planned to, it just showed up on the tube as I was netsurfing. It's pretty much live jamming from start to finish, with the best of the best. They just casually announce who won what as the music is playing or during a small break. Then I realize it's an AWARDS show that is actually entertaining. Amazing. Apparently it was the 2009 30th Blues Music Awards which was held in Memphis, and they have a DVD, I'm not sure if it's the same amazing edited down cut, but for those in the market I believe you would not be disappointed: https://www.blues.org/store/# |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 10 - 09:15 PM Hey, that Charlie Parr performance is great. Real solid blues allright. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 08:37 PM definitely check out Spleen's links, that guy Charlie Parr is wonderful no matter how you define the music, he is awesome |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 08:23 PM Spaw thank you my brother, I remember him .. will do ... awesome!! |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Oct 10 - 08:14 PM Well Dan, you might try the following link for a sample of a former 'Catter. Select the Acoustic Workshop album and then click on #7 (might want to sample a few others too)......If you click on the other album title you might get a kick out of #8....LOL CLICK HERE ....Trust me....You'll like the guy. Spaw |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe Date: 08 Oct 10 - 08:02 PM Dan, glad you enjoyed it. If he plays in your town, go and see him. A wonderful performer. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:59 PM Spleen that is awesome, hijack away guy ... that is wonderful !! got it blasting |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:57 PM Sorry to hijack the thread, but this too. One of my top ten favourite songs ever written: 1922 BLUES |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:55 PM We are the same LH, that's why I can't yet do it and my blues sounds like folk ... but I will work on Bobert's secret techniques until I can try and record my song with a different picking technique. By the way, if I could play the harp a tenth as good as you I would be blessed. So far I got Oh Suzanna down LOL |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:52 PM I keep trying to turn Mudcatters on to the wonderful Charlie Parr. This thread is another opportunity to do this. Listen to this right now, or I'll come round to your house and scream until I'm sick on your carpet. Far Cry From Fargo |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:48 PM That's interesting, Dan. I've never played much blues...don't know much about those kind of riffs. When I do a 12 bar blues pattern it comes out more like a folk/blues crossover. I leave the pure blues to them that know how to play it. ;-) Same goes for harmonica. I normally play melodies, harmonies, standard chording, and countermelodies on harmonica....not blues style riffs. My main influences were trad folk, contemporary folk, Hispanic music, and classical music rather than the blues. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:41 PM When you grow up and play Appalachian music, every finger picking technique has to be flawless (one note at a time). With real blues as Bob taught me, you have to know when to dirty it up to achieve the real sound. That has been the hardest thing for me to get down. The fingers just want to go note by note all the time as in the song I wrote. It would sound much better if I could dirty the sound just at points that were needed to achieve the feeling. It is a whole different skill set for sure and why i admire it so much. I have had friend tell me blues heck that is easy compared to the picking you do or so and so does. Heck no, that is not true, it is damn hard ... more music please |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:31 PM Slag my friend, I didn't get it either, but if someone took offense to anything I said I will indeed apologize. I think I understand where she was coming from, some people get sensitive I guess but my writing is pretty much like my speech .. I only tend to slip into dialects when I do Irish only because my dad had a bit of an accent so I guess when I do Irish music that comes out and I try not to. Not because I care but because it comes across fake with my music and that I don't want. LH was just doing what you said flavor of authenticity nothing more and she knows that, she is a very talented person .. I can't do real blues "YET " but will someday. Bobert helps me a lot , he is a master at the craft |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Slag Date: 08 Oct 10 - 07:13 PM You got me OD. I'm sorry but I just couldn't make Azizi's case. Lot's of things are done here and much folk is written in dialect. It is that which gives a distinctive flavor of authenticity to the lyrics for the music, of the prose and poetry. It IS folk. I am sure no one meant anything derogatory by affecting an accent. It is done for the Scotts and Irish (or Ersh, as my Grndmaother used to say), German, French, Spanish, etc. If I am missing something here, let me know, OK? |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:26 PM "Handsful O' Blues" is a great performance. That man can sing the Blues. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Rob Naylor Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:25 PM Lovely, Will! I've learned a nice version of "Fishin' Blues" fingerstyle now and got it down so well that, as Bobert said in reply to one of my earliest Mudcat postings: "one day you'll find your right hand just tells you to fuck off, and it'll do its own thing automatically". Now all I've got to do is learn the vocals :-( |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:20 PM Thanks Rob, gotta have a listen |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:19 PM Oh yes eanjay ...thank you ... great stuff and Will, you know I am the biggest fan of you guys and that is great as always. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Rob Naylor Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:18 PM Well, I've been doing what I said I'd do on Bobert's thread here: Bobert's Blues Thread and doing a lot of listening! I've got to like Eric Bibb: Eric Bibb And Bob Brozman: Bob Brozman And I've been amazed at some of the stuff Sister rosetta Tharpe was doing on the guitar way back when: Rosetta Tharpe, wet railway station, Manchester England, 1964 And this one's just a bit quirky :-) : Sixteen year old English kid with diddley bow Azizi, if you're still here, I'm interested that you always use the phrase "people of color" in your posts. I know fashions in "allowable" use of language change, but all the people I know in the UK who are of African or Afro-Caribbean descent refer to themselves as "black" and would feel a bit insulted if someone referred to them as "coloured" or "of colour". Those phrases were in fashion here a couple of decades ago but at some point were deemed to "sound patronising" so the description reverted to "black". Have things come "full circle" again? Is it now normal (again??) in the USA to refer to people of African descent as "of color", and should we therefor expect the phrase to replace "black" in the UK (again) soon? |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Will Fly Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:14 PM Well, I don't know about living other lives, but one of the pleasures of life is playing music with other people. So here's my buddy Ian Gardner singing and playing Diddy Wah Diddy with some added noodling from yours truly... |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Jean(eanjay) Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:14 PM I bought three Reggie Miles CDs in the mudcat auction and they are good. I like the songThese Old Shoes but my favourite isHandsful O' Blues |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:10 PM gnu - I realize you're just joshing...but... If I could time travel, I would go and tell my other selves: "I love you very much. Thank you for taking part of the Earth Walk for me, and thanks for what you have learned on our mutual behalf." I have a fairly good idea about a few of my previous lives, but most of them are completely shrouded in mystery, and that's probably a good thing. After all, I need to focus clearly on this one while I'm here living it, and that's enough to deal with all by itself. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 05:09 PM Yer slacking there bobster ... but I forgive ya. video cam that performance if ya can ok |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Bobert Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:58 PM Howdee... Hey, ain't like I'm slackin', ol'ster... Ya' see... Yeah, I play the blues... I learned it from an African American, then took 3 pilgrimages into Mississippi and learned more from more African Americans and another 7 'er 8 years as a regular at Archie Edwards Barbershop and learned even more... I got what I got down purdy okay... Least I can do what I want to do and I ain't tryin' to be black tho I gotta lotta African American influences in my speech patterns but also have alittle hillbilly, a little redneck and a little or this 'n that... BTW, I really am kinda jammed as I'm scurryin' around trying to pack to leave for NC, via Richmond for the Richmond Folk Festival tomorrow, in the early mornin' plus... ...gotta a monster gig tonight in Luray that I just packed up fir when I'll not only be opening for Clarence "The Bluesman" Turner but gonna open with his band backin' me... I played with these guys off and on going back long time an' it's always like a reunion fir us to get together and let 'er rip!!! Maybe Gutbucketeer look thru some of his stuff and find some Sidewalk Bob with Gutbucketeer and stick it up here, I donno... The Blues thread I started went to 300 posts and got lotta good stuff on it... I mean, lotta good stuff... Plus, ain't many real blues folks here... Now I gotta get movin'... Bi night fir Sidewalk Bob!!! B~ |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: gnu Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:39 PM LH... "I have been male in some and female in others..." Soooo, if you could time travel too you could go fuck yourself? |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:39 PM LH Amen my brother, now where is your music, Heck I posted Amos so get you can out there .. you are awesome. And how about some blues |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:35 PM Well, there are a tremendous variety of other ways to choose from, aren't there, Jeri? ;-) I personally believe that I've lived hundreds of incarnations by now, if not thousands...I have been male in some and female in others....and I have probably been born into every race and most of the cultures that have ever existed on this planet. Therefore, I feel pretty comfortable invoking any idiom that my spirit moves me to...and I also feel a strong kinship with many cultures and things that I presently am not a direct part of. We are all of one Spirit. That is my belief. Separations exist only in the divided egoic mind that imagines (most unfortunately) that it is irrevocably alone. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:33 PM Some of my favorites from back home. My buddie from West Virgina says he went campin in the Holler. But in my mountains we went campin in the hollow but we used holler to yell down the hill. Dems guys or uens guys from the Pittsburgh influence, the "aint got none" or windows is Winddas ... We also use coal terms like clinkers and a host of railroad terms ... gosh I miss it going to is always gonna LOL but this is thread creep .. More blues please |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Jeri Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:25 PM I went through a course once in which people came from all over the US. One guy from Georgia, and said he often felt people made fun ofthe way he talked: the drawl, the "ain't"s, and other odd dialect attributes. He said, basically, that he KNEW how other folks talked and could talk like that if he wanted, but his speech was his heritage, and he wasn't ashamed of it. Personally, I really enjoyed listening to him talk. I don't like fake-sounding dialect, I'm not going to use it, but I'm not going to make myself look stupid by pretending to know what other people's heritage is if I don't know THEM. I'll find other ways to look stupid. |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 03:15 PM By the way, I took a lot of teasing in college for some of my speech , when you grow up on the Appalachian line "you guys talk funny" got that a lot ... I make no apologies for my speech as it is my back ground and I am very proud of it ... I do apologize if people misunderstand and think I am trying to be something I am not ... One only has to listen to my song "gonna see my baby tonight" that is how I say it .. imitating no one but myself. I wrote it the way I say it ... But I understand people can get confused. Hell I am confused a lot gonna see my baby tonight This song I tried to do something in the blues pattern although it came out as always more folk. Bobster has taught me some real blues pickin that I have to practice more |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 10 - 02:42 PM Ummm...sorry...that last word should have been "dawg"! ;-) |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Oct 10 - 02:41 PM No, no ill will intended at all, Azizi. If one listens to a lot of those old blues recordings from the 20's on, one hears the sort of patois that was used at the time by those singers, and I was simply evoking that type of thing. As you may know, I also enjoy doing posts sometime in Scottish-English dialect for the same reason. Languages, accents, and local forms of dialect have always fascinated me. I have an affection for all these different forms of speech, because it is part of our shared cultural heritage. Another one that you'll see people using a lot here, of course, is the rural White or western or hillbilly kind of lingo, such as: "Ah figgered yew were gonna show up, Black Bart...and Ah shore do hope yew reemembered to load them shootin' irons o' yourn...cos if'n yew didn't, Ah'm a-gonna be oh-bliged to jest shoot yew down in cold blood, lahk a dirty dog." |
Subject: RE: Where the heck is our blues people From: olddude Date: 08 Oct 10 - 02:07 PM Nice one gut !! |
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