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Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland, soprano (Oct 2010)

GUEST,mauvepink 11 Oct 10 - 12:38 PM
GUEST,glueman 11 Oct 10 - 01:01 PM
Ebbie 11 Oct 10 - 01:35 PM
John MacKenzie 11 Oct 10 - 01:51 PM
GUEST,mauvepink 11 Oct 10 - 02:14 PM
mouldy 11 Oct 10 - 02:20 PM
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Jack Campin 11 Oct 10 - 05:36 PM
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Subject: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: GUEST,mauvepink
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 12:38 PM

The opera singer Dame Joan Sutherland has died

Like most female opera stars she reitred before her voice totally cracked and kept away from the singing stage but not from musical events. It is due to Joan Sutherland that we now have so many fine recordings in the repertoire of good bel canto operas from the likes of Bellini and Donizetti. Many have followed in her footsteps but few have attained those notes

Sad day for the musical world, her family and friends

mp


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 01:01 PM

True. I was swotting Sutherland's recordings the day before she died for my favourites.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 01:35 PM

I like opera- the songs, not the stories. There are not too many operatic soprano voices I like. Joan Sutherland was one of the sopranos I liked; her voice was never shrill.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 01:51 PM

Farewell La Stupenda, and thanks for your wonderful performances.

JM


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: GUEST,mauvepink
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 02:14 PM

I have many recordings of both Callas and Sutherland. The thing that most seperates them is probably the time and technology of those recordings. So many of Sutherlands recording are much of a muchness but then, in fairness, so were the operas she was doing. Much of Donizetti is quite similar and he was hard on the soprano role.

Bellini certainly allowed more range and the chance of colouratura. By the time we get to Verdi and Puccini we find them using the tenor and baritone, along with mezzo and bass, in a kind of equal use. Verdi, I feel, was much harder on baritones than on sopranos and tenor, for instance, which is why good Verdian baritones are rarer (Milnes and Zancanarro probably being about the most expressive).

Along came Pavarotti and the repertoire got hoisted another step when he and Sutherland almost reignited the whole interest of duets from bel canto and the romantic era. Callas and di Stefano reinvented and different.

Thankfully the world has been left her voice. Sadly the opera world has lost her spirit and enthusiasm.

mp


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: mouldy
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 02:20 PM

My distant cousin, John Brecknock, sang several times with her. She seems to have been a lively lady, by all accounts! The world has lost another legend.

Andrea


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: JennieG
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 04:38 PM

A legend all right - she did a lot for opera in Oz, helping nurture young singers and bring older works back into the repertoire.

Many years ago I saw a very funny televised performance of "Die Fledermaus" with Dame Joan in a leading role. (Dame Joan was a tall well-built woman and the singer playing the maid was much smaller) In the scene at the ball, where she recognises her maid wearing a gown from her own closet, she said "Why, there's my maid Adele......wearing my dress".....dramatic pause......"cut down!" The audience erupted.

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 05:36 PM

Somebody who spent her entire career performing mediocre twaddle that would have been far better left forgotten about, because her hubby thought it was a neat idea.

What a waste of potential.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 08:05 PM

She was 1/4th of the quartet on my favorite version of Beethovan's 9th. I wore out 4 copies of the LP.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: Allen in Oz
Date: 11 Oct 10 - 08:17 PM

JR

Nice line our Jennie in Tamworth !

AD


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: Acme
Date: 12 Oct 10 - 01:38 PM

"Die Fledermaus" is such a great one to allow the performers leeway for humor and improv. I love that story!

Here's hoping the local classical station will pull out some of her performances in coming weeks and days. I'd love to revisit her work. She had a fabulous voice, one of the best ever. And she purposely quit while she was on top, so that remains her legacy.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland
From: Genie
Date: 12 Oct 10 - 05:07 PM

One of my favorite opera singers. Glad she lived a long (and I hope happy) life and left us such a great musical legacy.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland, soprano (Oct 2010)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 02:01 AM

our local radio station had reminiscences & talk back yesterday after her death was announced.

One woman related what happened on an overseas trip years ago. She was in a crowded bus/train & couldn't strap-hang as she was too short, so was trying to hold on to a post. A taller woman moved back to let her get a grip & she saw it was Joan Sutherland. She told her she had a few copies of an Australian opera magazine in her bag as she was visiting her boyfriend who sang/worked in opera. Joan Sutherland said it was an aweful picture & would she like her to autograph it for him!

sandra


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland, soprano (Oct 2010)
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:17 AM

Well, shuckydarn. The world loses another decent human being & fab musician. Just the kinda folks we need MORE of, not less. My condolences to opera buffs & Aussies. Tw


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Subject: RE: Obit: Dame Joan Sutherland, soprano (Oct 2010)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:40 AM

Enjoyed her singing -- glad she's been well-recorded, so we can continue to enjoy it.

Linn


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