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A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project

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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 12:04 PM

I shall email you soonish. I prefer his Broomfield Hill melody to Bellowhead's anyway.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Rog Peek
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 05:10 AM

S.A. I missed the point, I apologise.

Rog


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: DavidKidman
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 05:09 AM

Good news...
I'll be emailing or PM-ing you, Sean, once I've got this week out of the way!!!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 04:35 AM

???!!!

Nothing on-line right now. Go back a few posts for the full story - 30 Mar 11 - 09:16 AM. Hmmm - not much of a story anyway - basically I pulled the whole thing because of i) lack of interest and ii) lack of time to chase up contributers, much less lack of inclination to do so. However, soon as I did so I recieved a splendid January Man from esteemed mudcatter and much pressure from certain quarters to re-open it. So - it goes back on line as & when there's enough contributions to make it worthwhile.

All welcome! Come one, come all!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Apr 11 - 04:21 AM

"Sorry, the blog at thelandfillproject.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs."


???!!!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 07 Apr 11 - 09:02 AM

Again:

This project is open to anyone who has A VERSION OF or A VARIANT OF any of the songs that appear on Martin Carthy's Landfall album. By variant it could be simply another version, or else a different piece entirely that uses a particular song as a starting point (we have one such instrumental promised) or else a remix; creative sampling welcomed too (we have one such which uses samples of Dust to Dust).

The remit is wide enough for pretty much anyone to interpret this as they wish really; field-recordings, home recordings, studio recordings, YouTube videos, pictures, scans, photographs...

No limits on the number of tracks either!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 07 Apr 11 - 06:46 AM

I may be up for this, but I know only the Bellowhead verson. Unless you'd be happy with just a version of the songs on the list...


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 07 Apr 11 - 04:34 AM

Please read the OP before cluttering this up with irrelavancies. This thread is not about waste disposal or songs about waste disposal.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Rog Peek
Date: 06 Apr 11 - 06:21 PM

Reminded me of this one:

BOTTOM OF THE LAND, PHIL
(Robert Hoyt)

Where are those things you've worked for all your life
Where are the objects of your joy
Where are those things that you've come to expect
Where are the winner's toys

Chorus
Where will you find your place among things
Where will you find your strength
Where will you find the national will
It's all there in the bottom of the land, Phil

Garbage and peas and expired cheese
Good things no one'll ever taste
Paper galore and old two-by-fours
Whole forests laid to waste

Chorus

Well you won't get my cash and I'll steel your trash
Why should I spend it in your corporate store
You can compact it all to hell, but you can't hide the smell
And I'll still be hangin' 'round your back door.

Chorus
Free the trash!

Rog


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 06 Apr 11 - 04:58 PM

That's about the essense of it, Lizzie - and this is open to anyone no matter what - floorsinger, semi-pro, pro, anyone who is moved to sing any of these songs or else variants thereof.

Though it wouldf be nice that whatever you contribute hasn't appeared elsewere... remix? alt take? singing in the bath?


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 06 Apr 11 - 04:33 PM

I thought the title related to a large hole in the ground that needed to be filled...and someone had suggested filling it with folkies...

;0)


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Banjiman
Date: 06 Apr 11 - 04:27 PM

Somehow missed this.

We'll give you a song (Could be another version of Cruel Mother!)if you want one from us. Would that be acceptable (Wendy is a floor singer at times!)?

Paul


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 05 Apr 11 - 02:13 PM

Refresh.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 02:14 PM

Yes. Once I've got the promised tracks in I'll be putting the whole lot as mp3s onto Sound Cloud. You only get 2 hours, but you can always open another page!

For the New Blog, please send any pictures / biographical info you think appropriate.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: RTim
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 01:30 PM

Is the SoundCloud site for this going to be re-established?

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Stringsinger
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 01:15 PM

"Pave paradise and put up a parking lot" (Joni Mitchell)) doesn't exactly relate to landfill but it's the same idea.

Removing land to compact waste products is a big picture involving the nuclear energy problems as well.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 12:01 PM

Thanks for your fascinating insights, Mysha - but there's really nothing to get, it's just a vague sort of umbrella concept for folkies of all persuasions to come and participate in - to FILL by way of celebrating the LAND - which is the folk-land I suppose. Besides, it's all online, so there'll be no packaging, hard-copy or wasteage of any kind, and there'll be as many versions of any given song as anyone wants to do. If someone has a dozen variants the Cruel Mother, they'll all be welcome here. If we get a hundred different renderings of January Man it just won't be enough. So come and help Fill this thing.

Mostly though, to make it even more obvious, is that the Landfall album is seminal to the folk zeitgeist; these days maybe Landfill would have been more appropriate. These things are of grave concern to me, the sort of mess we're leaving for future generations to clear up - such concerns are part of the folk zeitgeist now. They are to me anyway. A play on words you see?


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Mysha
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 11:37 AM

Hi,

Ross, if they are, then I don't see them there.
Suibhne, I don't know. To me, the cover looks like a village clinging to the coast at the edge of a sea of very little money.

I think I know only one of the songs on the album: The January man. If it is the song I sing, it does give a link to future generations, but there's nothing about it that would excuse including it on a Waste Dump album. I really don't get it.

Bye,
                                                                  Mysha


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 10:46 PM

Sounds like a plan.

Landfall/Land Fall cover images from Reinhard Zierke's excellent site.

Ross


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 11:20 AM

Was the original about a ship reaching port or about a storm hitting the coast?

Wasn't it about Aberfan? I think the original cover hinted at that. You can't take the politics away from the land, or the songs...

*

Cheers, Ross - maybe we'll get your stuff done soon & persuade the MB Boys to record Over the Hills...


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 10:27 AM

Mysha, the answers to your questions are to be found in the original post.

Still working on my contributions, Sean. Glad the project's still on.

Ross


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Mysha
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 06:22 AM

Hi,

OK, I stand corrected: A Waste Dump that we try to pretend fits in but will still bother future generations.

Still doesn't sound like name for a good folk project. Was the original about a ship reaching port or about a storm hitting the coast?

Bye,
                                                                  Mysha


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 05:13 AM

MoorleyMan - looking forward to hearing from you!

Mysha - A Landfill is so much more than a Waste Dump. One thing we find a lot of in the Folk Zeitgeist is a yearning nostalgia for traditional methods of land manangement and our relationship with the fundamentals which are now lost to us, pretty much. Such concerns are uppermost the soul of most folkies - where an indifferent society is suddenly hung up on the re-cycling of packaging that should neve have existed in the first place gives me a headache - much less the thought of that stuff becoming part of our landscape for future generations to have to deal with!

Anyway, this is about the songs first and foremost - the name Landfill is a reflection of the underlying ecological concerns which are hard to escape from in this day and age.

Fun? You bet!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Mysha
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 07:54 PM

Hi,

To my foreign eyes, it sounds like you're calling your project "Waste Dump". Does the original indeed have a meaning similar to that? I don't know, "Waste Dump" just doesn't have the ring of a fun thing to do together.

Bye
                                                                  Mysha


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 03:53 PM

Sean - I was on the point of emailing you in shock-horror at the news of abandonment but now I see a possible relaunch is on the cards I can breathe easier again and make renewed efforts to get some stuff recorded for the project... good luck!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 03:32 PM

Cheers, VT! No hurry - I've got a few things on right now so I expect to relaunch the site in June.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 03:01 PM

ok... If I can make my Appalachian version of Cruel Mother work on my little digi voice recorder, I will send along. The recorder is at work at the moment, so won;t be this weekend.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 01:16 PM

Wierdly - typically... No sooner have I shut this down I receive a belting January Man from one esteemed member of of the Mudcat Community (aren't they all?) and severe threats from another that he's got a number of tracks poised on completion as well as various others in the offing...

Okay.

So to ANYONE AT ALL with a version, a variant, a direct cover or even a remix of any of the LANDFALL tracks, then do send them on for a
re-launch when everything promised is safely gathered in.

There are NO LIMITS here - cover the entire album if you want to; cover it ten times over in different ways if you must...

And if this means I bask in VT's Cruel Mother then so much the better really.

Please, bring 'em on (tracks listed above, with Ross's links to them all.)

S O'P / Sedayne


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 01:28 PM

Is that wrong?

Perish the thought! Like us doing Mrs Brewer's song in English accents using an Indian harmonium and a Hungarian zither; what goes around comes around as they say, which isn't to diminish Mrs Brewer's superlative rendering which is one of my favourite things in the entire universe:

Down by the Greenwood Side - As sung by Mrs. Pearl Brewer, Pochahantas, Arkansas on November 12, 1958


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 12:06 PM

I sing the Martin Carthy lyrics (somewhat modified) and tune, but with my Gammy's (grandmother from West Virginia) accent.

I do this because, sadly, I did not learn this song direct from my Gammy. She may not even have known it. I am singing it as I imagine her singing it. So I am sort of making up for a traditional past I did not have.

Is that wrong?


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 11:42 AM

What do you mean?


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: RTim
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 11:41 AM

Ahhhhh - now I see, version of Cruel Mother - Dah.

Tim


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: RTim
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 11:39 AM

Sedayne:
I have to say I was intrigued with your entry on the new recordings, as it was NOT on the original Landfall recording?

Tim


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 10:56 AM

Love to hear it anyway, VT. We're exploring those links the whole time - in fact our version of The Cruel Mother comes directly from the singing of Mrs Pearl Brewer of Arkensas in The Max Hunter Archive. Just uploaded the old demo we used for Landfill:

http://soundcloud.com/rapunzel-and-sedayne/green-wood-side

Not sure about the accents though!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: RTim
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 10:42 AM

Shame.....

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 10:23 AM

what a pity.. I just learned Cruel Mother. But I do it with Appalachian accent.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 09:16 AM

Cancelled due to lack of interest!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:28 AM

Soundcloud link: http://soundcloud.com/the-landfill-project


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 07:40 AM

Okay - a few changes & a couple of more tracks making a grand total of FIVE so far. Hmmmm... Still, it's the quality that matters & what are numbers anyway?

So - the Landfill Project is now using Soundcloud to host the tracks: http://thelandfillproject.blogspot.com/

We're on a promise of TWENTY more, so please enjoy - & keep 'em coming!

Blog: The Landfill Project

Email : landfill@sedayne.co.uk


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 02:28 PM

You don't have to download anything - just click the links & wait a few seconds for a free download. It's one of the easiest way for hosting stuff free (unlimited) & is generally favoured by the blogging community.

Anything to add there, Tim? Images / biog / links / tweets - send them on & I'll put them up.

Thanks again.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: RTim
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 10:00 AM

So the only way to listen. is to down load something called - RadidShare?

But I don't want that?

Tim


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 09:54 AM

The first three songs are up, with a promise of lots more to follow. Thanks to Alan, Tim & Yael for getting it off to a fine start...

http://thelandfillproject.blogspot.com/2011/01/first-three-songs.html


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 09:09 AM

I've got the first page up + our first image! Some songs to follow by the end of the week hopefully...

http://thelandfillproject.blogspot.com/

So all you singers out there - please contribute!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 06:42 AM

Just a reminder that we're going on line with this in January - and that everyone is invited to contribute.


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: EBarnacle
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 08:41 PM

I note with dismay two egregious omissions from your list. Jan Christensen's "Ode to the Fresh Kills Landfill" and Dan Einbender's "It Isn't Really Garbage [Till You mix it all Together]."


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: RTim
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 08:14 AM

Kev - The link works, you just have to apply for Spotify if you don't have it - and it does not seem to be available here in the USA.

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Kev Boyd
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 06:47 AM

Well, my Spotify link doesn't appear to work. Try this instead.

If that doesn't work I give in!

Kev


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 20 Nov 10 - 05:48 PM

Any more anyone? The Blog will be going live in January (man!) & we've got a few nice ones lined up. I'm a bit busy otherwise right now so I'm not pushing this as hard as it deserves, but we've got a few tracks in, and many more promised AND a Ron Baxter take on the cover!

So, please, read the remit and contribute!


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Kev Boyd
Date: 20 Nov 10 - 05:35 PM

Great idea. And in the spirit of the project I made a Spotify playlist from just a few of the variations on these songs that are already available.

Cheers
Kev


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Subject: RE: A Call to All Folk Singers: Landfill Project
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 08:12 PM

Here's a few links - some on Mudcat (Digital Tradition), others from Reinhard Zierke's excellent site "Mainly Norfolk: English Folk and Other Good Music", one from the Child Ballads website:-


Here's Adieu to All Judges and Juries

Brown Adam

O'er the Hills

Cruel Mother

Cold Haily Windy Night

His Name was Andrew (David Ackles)

The Bold Poachers

Dust to Dust (John Kirkpatrick)

The January Man

The Broomfield Hill

I always meant to learn Dave Goulder's "January Man" properly - I guess that gives me a couple of months? Might dig out a version of "Cold, Haily, Windy Night" as well.

Ross


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