Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others From: SuperDave Date: 10 Nov 18 - 11:42 AM As posted above by Rich R: the line is "A hunger took their fight away and no-one else was slain." This thread is plagued with spam, so is temporarily closed. If you wish to post here contact a moderator to reopen it. ---mudelf |
Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others From: GUEST Date: 06 Mar 16 - 08:39 PM Hi! Just wondering if anyone might have any access to the lyrics to Ian's "Farewell To The North"? Have always loved the song, but can't clearly make it all out...Thanks!! |
Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs: Four Rode By From: thnidu Date: 29 Nov 09 - 02:41 PM The lyrics page has "A hunger took their pride away and no one else was slain* ... *been trying for 20 years to figure this line out, may have been hearing it wrong" It's either "But hunger took..." or "Till hunger took...", I think the former. I learned this from the LP decades ago; I still have it, but no turntable to play it on. |
Subject: Lyr Add: CUTTY WREN (from Ian & Sylvia) From: GUEST,Geoff Luebbert Date: 23 Jul 08 - 01:01 PM CUTTY WREN (traditional) Oh where are you going said Milder to Malder Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose We're off to the woods said John the Red Nose We're off to the woods said John the Red Nose And what will you do there said Milder to Malder Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose We'll shoot the Cutty Wren said John the Red Nose We'll shoot the Cutty Wren said John the Red Nose How will you shoot her said Milder to Malder Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose With bows and with arrows said John the Red Nose With bows and with arrows said John the Red Nose Oh that will not do, said Milder to Malder Oh what will do then, said Fessel to Fose Big guns and big cannons said John the Red Nose Big guns and big cannons said John the Red Nose And how will you bring her home said Milder to Malder Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose On four strong men's shoulders said John the Red Nose. On four strong men's shoulders said John the Red Nose. Oh that will not do said Milder to Malder Oh what will do then said Fessel to Fose Big carts and big wagons said John the Red Nose Big carts and big wagons said John the Red Nose How will you cut her up said Milder to Malder Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose With knives and with forks said John the Red Nose With knives and with forks said John the Red Nose Oh that will not do said Milder to Malder Oh what will do then said Fessel to Fose Big hatchets and cleavers said John the Red Nose Big hatchets and cleavers said John the Red Nose Oh how will you cook her said Milder to Malder Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose With pots and with pans John the Red Nose With pots and with pans John the Red Nose Oh that will not do said Milder to Malder Oh what will do then said Fessel to Fose Bloody great brass cauldrons said John the Red Nose Bloody great brass cauldrons said John the Red Nose Oh who'll get the spare ribs said Milder to Malder Oh we may not tell you said Fessel to Fose We'll give 'em all to the poor said John the Red Nose We'll give 'em all to the poor said John the Red Nose - This allegory of regicide was also resurrected more recently by Chumbawamba. |
Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others From: Amos Date: 30 Dec 03 - 07:35 PM Daniel: Which song were you wanting to download? The Mudcat doesn't have downloadable performance recordings, but it has some MIDIs and a lot of lyrics. Please advise what you're looking for? A |
Subject: BEEP BEEP From: GUEST,Daniel Drake Date: 30 Dec 03 - 07:10 PM Is there a website where I can download the song. I would appreciate it very much |
Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others From: GUEST,Geordie Date: 29 Oct 02 - 10:40 AM I LOVE Ian and Sylvia..does anyone know the lyrics to Brave Woolf or the Cutty Wren ? |
Subject: RE: Lyr req: Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, others From: SINSULL Date: 29 Oct 02 - 06:49 AM Neat thread, Allan. I sang "Katy Dear" at the Getaway and got a number of blank looks. One of my favorites and a lot easier for me to manage than "Silver Dagger" ala Joan Baez. Somehow I know it as: Katy Dear, go tell your father If you can be a bride of mine and a few other minor differences. I will have to dig out my Ian and Sylvia CDs and check. |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Joe Offer Date: 29 Oct 02 - 12:20 AM Also see Drowsy Sleeper -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Will Date: 02 May 97 - 11:46 PM Actually, "Little Nash Rambler" is just a variant of "Four Strong Winds", which I&S used to sing after a few beers at the Williams Lake Stampede. |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Allan Date: 02 May 97 - 09:24 PM Once again, you are all sooooo great! I thank all who sent me the lyrics I requested. I'm happy to see so much interest in I & S. (I did'nt know they did "Little Nash Rambler" (LOL) Allan |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Date: 02 May 97 - 12:41 PM I think accentless French will pose only minor problems since you can get the meaning of identically spelled words from context and insert the accents accorgingly. In order to be sure I checked with my voice teacher's wife who is a French speaker and she agreed with me. I tried going through some songs to see how much confusion would result and found a sort of a counter example. There is a song called "Le Bal Chez Boule" which should have an acute accent on the e in Boule to be pronounced boolay which is a family name. In the song "En Roulant Ma Boule" the word has no accent and is pronounced bool-uh which means ball. BUT it's pronounced that way to fit the metre of the song. Normally final e's are silent. So in "En Roulant Ma Boule" you have to figure out the pronunciation from musical context anyhow and accents won't help. I don't claim to be a French speaker despite a grandmother born in Quebec. I learned all my French in school. (Incredible as it may seem I taught it at the Grade 7-9 level some thiry years ago.) Anyway bring on les chansons en Francais. (und auch deutsche lieder) Frank Phillips |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Date: 01 May 97 - 08:37 PM Bob (and others) Lyrics posted here WILL find their way into the database. So will lyrics sent to me at digitrad@world.std.com. Makes me no never-mind. dick |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Bob Landry Date: 01 May 97 - 03:18 PM Francois - Un grand merci pour l'histoire de la chanson (many thanks for the historical notes). It gives me more information on my background. Dick - I don't need the accents on French lyrics. I'll put them in where I need to. You'll notice my submission was devoid of accents. DT is indeed a gold mine. I'm finding lyrics to tunes that I've craved for years. I do have other contributions to make as I set them up for transmission - most will likely be of the Canadian/Celtic/Seafaring pursuasion. Would you prefer them here or direct to you at some other address? Bob
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Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Joe Offer Date: 01 May 97 - 01:26 AM I think French would work without accents, but ya gotta have the apostrophes, Dick. In a spirit of generosity, we Germans will forego the umlauts and accept the letter "e" after the modified vowel, as in "Das Wandern Ist des Muellers Lust." We can also do without the esss-zed, as in "tschuess." But I do think that Digital Tradition should have at least some of the more familiar foreign-language folk songs. I see some German and Spanish songs, but there could be more. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: dick greenhaus Date: 30 Apr 97 - 07:18 PM Do you Freanch-speakers have any problems with accent-less trancriptions? We've been hesitating to include languages other than English because of accent problems--any opinions? |
Subject: Lyr Add: EN ROULANT MA BOULE^^^ From: Date: 30 Apr 97 - 03:03 PM Ce chanson (dont il existe 92 versions differentes, selon Marius Barbeau) etait le chanson favori des voyageurs. Le version le plus renomme est "En roulant ma boule" (voir dessous) avec "V'la le bon vent" seconde. EN ROULANT MA BOULE
1. Derriere chez nous y'a t'un etang,
2. Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant,
3. Le fils du roi s'en va chassant...
4. Avec son grand fusil d'argent...
5. Visa le noir tua le blanc...
6. O fils du roi tu es mechant...
7. D'avoir tue mon canard blanc...
8. Par dessous l'aile il perd son sang...
9. Par les yeux lui sort'nt des diamants...
10. Et par le bec l'or et l'argent...
11. Toutes ses plumes s'en vont au vent...
12. Trois dames s'en vont les ramassant...
13. C'est pour faire un lit de camp... Frank Phillips (mais quand j'essai de parler le langue francais, je m'appelle Francois Phillippes.) HTML line breaks added, and italics added for clarity. --JoeClone, 2-Nov-02. |
Subject: Lyr Add: V'LA L'BON VENT^^^ From: Bob Landry (rlandry@incentre.net Date: 30 Apr 97 - 12:15 PM Here are the words to V'la Bon Vent. I did not transcribe them from Ian & Sylvia's version. Although it's catchy, their pronunciation is terrible. Although these lyrics are more traditional, my spelling may leave something to be desired. ________
V'LA L'BON VENT
REFRAIN: V'la l'bon vent, v'la le joli vent -
Derriere chez nous, y a't-un etang -
Trois beaux canards s'en vont baignant -
Le fils du roi s'en va chassant -
Avec son grand fusil d'argent -
Visa le noir, tua le blanc -
O fils du roi, tu es mechant -
D'avoir tue mon canard blanc -
Par dessous l'aile, il perd son sang -
Amuse toi bien |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Date: 29 Apr 97 - 08:18 PM The real question is what does BEEP BEEP have to do with Ian & Sylvia? |
Subject: RE: Lyrics: Beep beep or Little Nash Rambler From: Date: 13 Apr 97 - 04:54 PM Remember to start the first verse in slow motion and to accelerate when the cars do. |
Subject: RE: Lyrics: Beep beep or Little Nash Rambler From: Devildog Date: 12 Apr 97 - 06:59 PM Hurray!! I heard this song as a kid and it stayed with me and it always bugged me that I could't remember all the lyrics. I always wanted to share it with my wife, who was born in 1960. I just sang it to her the way I remember it being sung with the help of the lyrics you supplied. She loved it. Thanks a million Ralph! |
Subject: Lyr Add: BEEP BEEP (rec. by The Playmates)^^^ From: Ralph Butts Date: 12 Apr 97 - 08:47 AM Ahh...1958, and the dweeb with the Rambler became a hero.... Tiger BEEP BEEP—Playmates
CHORUS
While riding in my Cadillac, what to my surprise, CHORUS
I pushed my foot down to the floor to give the guy the shake, CHORUS
My car went in to passing gear and we took off with gust, CHORUS
Now we're doing a hundred and ten, it certainly was a race, CHORUS
Now we're doing a hundred and twenty, as fast as I could go. |
Subject: Lyrics: Beep beep or Little Nash Rambler From: Devildog Date: 12 Apr 97 - 12:05 AM It played on the radio for a little while on the radio in the early sixties. I think the name was Beep Beep or,maybe, Little Nash Rambler. It started out slow and sped up till it reached a fevered pitch. It began, " I was riding in my caddilac and what to my surprise, a little Nash Rambler pulled up on me about one third my size. He must have been looking for trouble cause he kept on tooting his horn. I'll show him that a caddilac is not a car to scorn. Beep Beep, Beep Beep, his horn went Beep Beep Beep." It's the middle part I need help with. It finally ends with the Rambler catching up to the caddy and the driver of the Rambler opens the window and yells to the Caddy: "Hey, buddy, how do you get this car out of second gear!" Any help will be greatly appreciated! |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Date: 27 Apr 97 - 09:07 PM Travelling Drummer was written by Sylvia as noted previously. Both songs were recorded on the Early Morning Rain album |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Bo Vandenberg Date: 27 Apr 97 - 12:19 PM Do Travelling Drummer & Come In Stranger have any relation to Ian and Sylvia? just wonderring, bo |
Subject: Lyr Add: TRAVELLING DRUMMER^^^ COME IN STRANGER^^^ From: rich r Date: 27 Apr 97 - 12:08 PM Allan, here are the words to the other two songs. I got bumped off line while editing the text, so there is a slight chance of a double post, since I could not find what I had been working on.
TRAVELLING DRUMMER
I am a travelling drummer. I live out on the road.
I used to be a fireman out on the county line,
I had a wife and family in a home in Chamberlain (-land?)
Some time when I get lonely and nights get over long,
I'll find myself a cheap hotel when I get into town,
I'd like to give up drummin' but I'm too old to try.
COME IN STRANGER
She said, "Come in, stranger.
She said, "Come in, stranger.
She said, "Come in, stranger.
She said, "Come in, stranger.
She said, "Come in, stranger, happy singing rich r |
Subject: Lyr Add: PRIDE OF PETROVAR + EILEEN OGE From: rich r Date: 24 Apr 97 - 10:24 PM Well here's another one I managed to get into the computer. PRIDE OF PETROVAR words by Percy French music - traditional Well Eileen Orr, O that's me darlin's name is O'er the Barony her features they were famous If we loved her, well who is there to blame us, For wasn't she the Pride of Petrovar? But her beauty was like to make you shy, Not a livin' boy could look her in the eye. Boys O boys! now there's the reason why we're in love with the Pride of Petrovar. refrain: Eileen Orr, me heart is turning gray Ever since the day you wandered far away. Eileen Orr, There's more fish in the sea, But there's none just like the Pride of Petrovar. Well it's Friday at the fair at Ballintubber, Eileen met McGraw the old horse trader I'd like to put me hands upon the robber, For he stole away the Pride of Petrovar Well he never seemed to see her standing there at all Even when she ogled him from underneath her shawl He was big and masterful and she was looking small Most provokin' to the Pride of Petrovar refrain So it is and it was in the beginning Eileen's heart was set upon the winning To see McGraw contentedly a grinning To be courted by the Pride of Petrovar Says he, "I know a girl that could knock you into fits" At that our Eileen nearly lost her wits. The outcome of the whole thing is that now the robber sits With his arm around the Pride of Petrovar. refrain Well, argh me boys, with fate 'tis hard to grapple Of all those girls well our Eileen was the apple; And now to see McGraw walking toward the chapel Arm and arm with the Pride of Petrovar. Well all I have is just one thing to say; If you go a courtin' then look the other way, If you want them to come after you, just look the other way, For they're mostly like the Pride of Petrovar. EILEEN OGE Eileen Oge! an' that's the darlin's name is. Through the Barony her features they were famous, If we loved her , who was there to blame us, For wasn't she the Pride of Petravore. But her beauty made us all so shy, Not a man could look her in the eye. Boys, O boys, that's the reason why We're in mournin' for the Pride of Petrovore. Eileen Oge, me heart is growin' grey Ever since the day you wandered far away. Eileen Oge, There's good fish in the say But there's no one like the Pride of Petrovore. Friday at the fair of Ballintubber, Eileen met McGrath the cattle jobber. I'd like to set me mark upon the robber, For he stole away the Pride of Petrovore. He never seemed to see the girl at all, Even when she ogled him underneath her shawl. Lookin' big and masterful when she was lookin' small Most provokin' for the Pride of Petrovore. So it went as 'twas in the beginning, Eileen Oge she was bent upon the winning. Big McGrath contentedly was grinning, Being courted by the Pride of Petrovore. Sez he, "I know a girl that could knock you into fits." At that our Eileen nearly lost her wits. The upshot of the ruction was that now the robber sits With his arm around the Pride of Petrovore. Boys, O boys, with fate 'tis hard to grapple Of his eye 'tis Eileen was the apple; And now to see her walkin' to the chapel Wid the hardest featured man in Petrovore. And now boys, this is all I have to say; When you do your courtin' don't make a display. If you want them to run after you, just walkd the other way, For they're mostly like the Pride of Petrovore The first version was recorded by Ian & Sylvia on their first album. Basically the same version was also recorded by the Mitchell Trio on "Slightly Irreverent". A second, slightly different version is found in the book "Songs of Ireland" by Jerry Silverman, 1991 Mel Bay Publications. Either way it's a good song. rich r |
Subject: RE: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Allan Date: 23 Apr 97 - 04:00 PM Thanks so much to rich, Bo, and (unsigned). Got 'em printed. Still need Pride of Petrovar . Thanks Again---Allan |
Subject: Lyr Add: OLD BLUE^^^ From: Bo Vandenberg Date: 23 Apr 97 - 12:59 AM Here's "Blue" they do it on their first album: Old Blue performed by Ian and Sylvia I had a dog and his name was blue I had a dog and his name was blue I had a dog and his name was blue Betcha five dollars he's a good 'un too Here Blue, you good dog you Shouldered my gun and I tooted my horn Gonna find a possum in the new ground corn Old Blue barked and I went to see Cornered a possum up in a tree Old Blue died and he died so hard Shook the ground in my backyard Dug his grave with a silver spade Lowered him down with links of chain Every link I did call his name Here Blue, you good dog you Here Blue, I'm a-coming there too |
Subject: Lyr Add: FOUR STRONG WINDS^^^ From: Bo Vandenberg Date: 23 Apr 97 - 12:56 AM Nothing but blind ambition,,,, people today (grumble) Here's what I have
FOUR STRONG WINDS
CHO: Four strong winds that blow lonely, seven seas that run high,
Guess I'll go down to Alberta, weather's good there in the fall.
If I get there before the snow flies, and if things are looking good. I actually like this sort of attention to one artist (or duo in this case) |
Subject: Lyr Add: KATY DEAR (Ian & Sylvia)^^ From: Date: 22 Apr 97 - 05:46 PM Greedy perhaps but impeccable choice of songs. Let us just see if I have the carriage returns right. KATY DEAR
Oh, Katy Dear, go ask your father
I cannot go and ask my father,
Oh Katy Dear, go ask your mother
I cannot go and ask my mother, (And right in here ya just gotta have a verse played on the Autoharp.)
He picked up a silver dagger
She picked up the bloody weapon |
Subject: Lyr Add: FOUR RODE BY^^^, RED VELVET^^^ From: rich r Date: 22 Apr 97 - 12:02 AM Well I will start, but won't put them all in one message. Thank goodness for you and me, "V'La L'bon Vent" about the good little breeze is in the DT database. This is good because I don't know French. A search of "vent" turned it up. FOUR RODE BY by Ian Tyson (1964)
Four rode by, rode through here,
Willie Palmer's stallion was no twenty dollar cayuse
CHO: Four rode by, rode through here,
A shepherd known as Kelly saw the wild bunch as they passed.
They hung the boys in January 1881
Four rode by, rode through here, RED VELVET by Ian Tyson (1965)
Four months ago in April on a day coach she came down
Well now she's up and left me and went walkin' down the road
Well if I'd only known before we kissed
Well I'll sit and count the evening stars as they walk around Words from "Ian & Sylvia" published by M Witmark & son, 1965. Unless somebody else chips in, I'll get to the others another time. I won't disagree that 7 songs in one request shades toward the greedy side. rich r |
Subject: ? Lyrics- Ian & Sylvia songs. Katy Dear, othe From: Allan Samuels Date: 21 Apr 97 - 11:02 PM I know I am greedy, but there are so many of you and you are all so kind and generuos............ Here is my wish list: Katy Dear, Come In Stranger, Red Velvet, Traveling Drummer. (From "Early Morning Rain") Pride Of Petrovar (From "Ian and Sylvia") Four Rode By (From "Northern Journey") V'La L'bon Vent (From "Four Strong Winds") Congratulations on beating the gremlins out of the system! Thanks, I'd be happy to return a favor if I can, Allan ( allands@msn.com) |
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