Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2

Subject: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 20 Nov 10 - 01:47 PM

Don't know if this has been aired recently. If not read on.

11 years ago, we were discussing what should be on the MUDCAT CDs. 8 years ago the CDs stated appearing -- five in the series; and another, the children's songs was added later.

In the past decade, many catters have joined the fold some of whom may wish to get involved with another such project. Other catters missed an opportunity due to technological restrictions. So time and technology has moved on, as has the membership.

I have no doubt that there may have been many issues to overcome in that first project, and many many hours of behind the scenes of unpaid labour of love. But, hell, it's what we do!

Is it time to consider doing another series of Mudcat CDs? -- I say CDs, but perhaps, in keeping with technological advances ( and keeping production costs to a minimum, we might be thinking of downloadable albums (with perhaps a later option of actually making CDs. Downloadable albums may be good for personal use, but I''m not convinced they make good presents.

However I am thinking of all those who may like to make a contribution to the community who did not do so last time (but not excluding the ones who did!)

Or is it not likely to be economically not worth while?--I don't know how financially beneficial the CD project was. Perhaps someone with a finger on the Blue Plate Special finances could advise if it is worth while having another shot.

Any observations?????

brad

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Nov 10 - 03:30 PM

My technology has finally caught up and I would love to be involved in a project like this!

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: jeffp
Date: 20 Nov 10 - 11:31 PM

I could get behind a project like this.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Nov 10 - 11:50 PM

Me,too

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Janie
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 12:20 AM

Me three!

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 01:26 AM

Well, yeah! For various reasons I wasn't able to participate the first time around, but now I could. I've got some fairly decent gear now.

I'd love to!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 03:20 AM

I'm happy to contribute the silence between the tracks like last time.

RtS
Kazoobie doobie doo

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 04:08 AM

I'd definitely like to be involved if this gets off the ground!

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 10:58 AM

Brad:

The gathering, editing and grouping the tracks was the largest part of the work last time. Once that was done, the tracks could be sold on-line or as a CD entire as the first batch were.

It is hard to believe it's been eight years!!

It might be advantageous to name the collections using ames related to the previous series to make the continuity evident. There are so many fruits and vegetables out there!

If you intend to anchor this effort, which would be highly commendable, let me know if I can help with questions, etc.


A

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 12:05 PM

I wouldnt mind having go at this ! What would be the technical requirement ? Could I get away with something on a Zoom 4 ?

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 12:09 PM

We have some stuff to contribute as well.

Can we also think toward a Blue BOTTLE extension for next Christmas?

~Susan

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Leadfingers
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 12:31 PM

Blue Bottle would be Drinking Songs ??

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 06:08 PM

If enough interest develops over the next few days, with some more pledges to contribute material (9 so far), I'll run with it. (Did I really say this????) I know there are some who will do it if and when a boot is heading for their backsides, so lets start kicking butt!

If Dick and MichaelR would like to join Amos as "Consultants" (fee neg.) that would be kuel!
I'm aware that there would be loads of admin, managing, delegating (hopefully) and CHASING, but being a busy and retired techy (sort of),

I think it is a timely thing to do. Could be ready for next years stocking fillers! (really????? --nah!)

I've been dabbling with recordings and editing recently, so I'm getting the hang of it.

brad

PS AMOS, how about   APRICOT, CINNAMON, LAVENDER, OLIVE, TANGERINE

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: michaelr
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 06:18 PM

I'd be happy to be involved, working on graphics (as before), and contributing content.

However, I must say that continuing the previous series' horticultural concept strikes me as a little unimaginative.

And I second Brad's original query -- how successful was the Blue Plate Special CD series in raising funds for Mudcat? We need to know before we can decide whether it's a good idea to do it again. Dick Greenhaus and/or Max would probably have the answer.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Zen
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 06:26 PM

If it gets off the ground I'd be happy to contribute something as I didn't last time.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: open mike
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 07:36 PM

I would be glad to send in a tune or song...
it would be like a benefit concert...where
the musicians donate time and "ticket sales"
go toward a good cause. the previous c.d.
names were:
Orchid, rose, violet, strawberry and plum

red ---
orange---
Yellow---
green---
blue---
indigo--
violet---

hmm...to use the plate concept,
maybe each disc could have the name of a dish..
disc=dish

apetizer, soup, salad, main course, dessert, beverage,

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 07:37 PM

I'd be happy to contribute something from ShoreGrass.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: maeve
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 08:46 PM

I'd have loved to contribute to such a project. I expect you'll no trouble filling the slots. Good idea!

Maeve

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: open mike
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 11:17 PM

who is Mr. Mike, and is Roy G. Biv gay?
how can someone hold a claim on all the colors of the rainbow?

strawberry, rose, orchid, violet and plum
were the names of our first 5 discs.
and this covers only a small portion of
the color wheel..the reds and the purples

I was just saying that the orange, yellow, green and blue
parts of the spectrum had not been utilized yet as names
for our c.d.'s


these tasty ideas were submitted by Bradford
APRICOT, CINNAMON, LAVENDER, OLIVE, TANGERINE
and i was just adding to the menu...these
all have added fragrance value!

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 11:57 PM

I'd be glad to contribute.

Dan

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 02:02 AM

I'd love to be a part of another one.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 03:56 AM

Mudcat's welcome to any recordings of mine. Just ask.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 04:10 AM

Likewise

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: My guru always said
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 07:35 AM

Perhaps it could be called the Green Plate Specials as an aid to differentiating between the series?

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 11:02 PM

Well, if they come, I'll be happy to produce and distribute them. This time, though, I would like to have some input in the graphic design: I know what does and doesn't work out well on my printer.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Nov 10 - 11:58 PM

Dick, how many of the CDs were sold, and to what extent did Mudcat benefit? It's relevant to the question of whether it's worth repeating the effort.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:57 AM

Mudcat made several thousand dollars of support money from the Mudcat CDs.


A

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: jacqui.c
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 07:27 AM

Kendall and I are in on this one.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: GUEST,999
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 08:53 AM

I'd like to contribute a song--but I ain't folk.

Bruce Murdoch

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: maeve
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 08:59 AM

You've written and performed many appropriate songs, Bruce.

I wish it was an option for me.

Maeve

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 11:13 AM

Any of your songs would be a proud embellishment to a new Mudcat CD series, Bruce.


A

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: GUEST,999
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 11:17 AM

Thank you both.

Amos, I will call you tonight--telephone.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Jeri
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 11:53 AM

Who's gonna put it together? I might be able to come up with something. ...if I can manage to not screw up just because I'm being recorded.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: maeve
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 12:10 PM

It would be great to have one from you. Jeri!

Maeve

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Jeri
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 12:18 PM

Thanks. Maeve, my H2 recorder thingie is VERY portable.
(Just in case that might help you contribute something.)

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 12:37 PM

Those are great names, Bradfordian!

I would be happy to add a cut.

As I recall there were several major phases. The first was demanding content, beating the bushes, tracking down reluctant stars, and reminding people relentlessly until they sent in their tapes, disks, microdisks, CDs, or whatever they had.

The second was choosing the inclusions out of all the candidates. This was hard because so many excellent songs were sent in. My policy was that anyone who tool the trouble to send in material should be represented--which is why there were so many CDs in the series.

Then, sorting them into sequence for the five disks and normalizing or optimizing the recordings as best I could with the tools and skills I had, which were somewhat limited.

Anyway, I also made a point of also continuously letting people know where we stood, what the deadlines were.

There was a huge amount of work done by other folks--graphics, and tracking down what was legal to use, and generating the liner notes for each disk. Mostly serving as a clearing house and facilitator for a lot of very bright people.

A

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Mark Clark
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 12:46 PM

So what is it all Y'all would like? Track from an existing CD? New track especially for Mudcat? New arrangement of existing material? New unencumbered material?

We might consider contributing material.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 12:48 PM

There was a long list of threads under the tag "Mudcat CDs" during the development which covered all questions at that time. We took anything the 'Catter wanted to send in as representative of his art, his heart, his preferences in music, or his momentary impulse.


A

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:04 PM

Depending on quantity we expect to sell, it may be more cost effective to have them duplicated or replicated and. 100 duplicated CD-rs in four panel wallets are a little over $3.50 a piece (about $2.30 a piece in simple printed sleeves), and 300 properly replicated ones are 2.62 each, $2 each in sleeves. Doing it on one's own printer always seems cheaper, when when you add the cost of toner, labels, blanks CD-rs, etc., it starts getting pricey. Just a thought.

And Maeve, I'm sure we can find a way to get you recorded. Amongst other things, I'm expecting there will be more than one volume and they won't all be made right away - right?

Dan

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: kendall
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:16 PM

I recently discovered another batch of recordings I did before I lost my voice, and I'd be glad to participate, but I'd like to see some folks who did not get in on the other project first.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: maeve
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:20 PM

Thanks, Jeri and Dan. We'll see how things work out.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:01 PM

I would not want to pass up this one. Put me on the list.

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: GUEST,999
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:19 PM

I'm with Kendall on that. Others who'd wanted to be on the last BPS should receive preferance over me. I'd be unhappy otherwise. Anyway, lemme know.

BM

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Genie
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:25 PM

"There are so many fruits and vegetables out there!" (Amos)

Yes - and some of us are Mudcatters too!

I think it would be great if the next batch included a lot of 'new talent' -- i.e., artists not on the first batch.    But I'm wondering how flexible the 'quota' of songs is, with each CD holding ~ 20 songs.

Also, as one of the main people involved in putting together liner notes for the first batch of CDs -- retroactively -- I'd like to suggest that people submit full liner note info WITH the submission of their mp3s.   Ideally, this would include songwriter and performer credits, copyright info, and lyrics.    This would greatly cut down on the time involved in putting together the liner notes, among other considerations.

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:47 PM

Mp3s? Somehow i missed that - probably no point in going with glass mastering then.

I easily have the quality facility to record someone in mp3 quality portably. Professional CD quality is a different story. Hint hint, for you folks wondering how you're going to get recorded.

Dan

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:47 PM

I love to contribute a song too. It sounds a great idea.

Best wishes,

Peter

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Crane Driver
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:50 PM

We're up for this for sure. Didn't have anything recorded last time around.

Andrew & Carole

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:57 PM

Looks like interest has taken off.
Amos, dick greenhaus, & michaelr are all on board.

If we are gonna get this out for next Christmas, better get cracking.

I am now prepared to set this in motion.

Send your material electronically to

[e-mail]

uncompressed files are preferred eg WAVs (I'll clear my mailbox regularly)

will also take videos and extract the sound.(copies of originals please -- don't send stuff from u-toob)

Any MEMBER can send in more than 1 item, but each should be accompanied by details ie performer (as before, Mudcat names will be used) author (lyrics) composer (tune)

I am happy to take items from existing CDs where ownership is demonstrated.

You need to have copyright, or copyright holders permission, or it can of course be public domain.

I will consult with colleagues from Mudcat regarding content for each CD, and indeed all aspects of this project will be a team effort.

bradfordian

PS. email or PM me for any further queries

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:19 PM

Ythanside (cookie expired and gone to f**k knows where).

Please include me in the draw, if only to confirm that a life of lechery and selective debauchery has its occasional upsides.

Having been dead and resuscitated twice in recent months it seems that this may be my final stab at immortality, if only auditory.

Ythanside,

otherwise

[e-mail]

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: Genie
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:21 PM

bradfordian, do you have any preference as to audio format - e.g., AIFF, mp3, wav, etc?

I'm also wondering if those of you who will be compiling the CDs have any way of removing distortion from audio files. Or is there some affordable software for tweaking audio quality after the fact on audio or video files?   

Dan, it would be great if everyone's songs were recorded in professional CD quality, but that might leave out many good songs/performances.   The first set of Blueplate Special CDs contained songs with a wide range of audio quality, but I still find the CDs a treasure because of the songs and performers themselves.   

The technology has advanced a lot in the last few years, when it comes to the toys and tools most of us peons have. Maybe it will be feasible to tweak things so, for instance, all the songs on a CD come out at roughly the same volume.

Subject: BLUE PLATE CHRISTMAS SPECIAL CD?
From: Genie
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:25 PM

Another question/suggestion:

How about having one CD that is all Christmas-Hanukkah-Solstice-New-Year's (etc.) music? I.e., songs usually done in December.

A lot of "Christmas" or "holiday" songs probably wouldn't be included on a 'regular' mix CD but may still be very good songs. And if we're shooting for the CD(s) to be available for next Christmas, I think a holiday season CD would be nice as one of the options.

Genie

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:28 PM

25 expressions of interest so far (looking for quite a few more yet!!!!)

Here's the provisional schedule:-

Collection of Material ---- up to end of MARCH
Review & checking------- MARCH - APRIL
Prelim Selection --- MAY
Final Selection       ------June
Initial Build-    -------------July
Quality Enhancement/Normalization -------MAY - JULY
Final Build    ------------ August
Organize Logistics production and Distribution --June--- -----August
Final QA    ---end August
Production ---- SEPTEMBER
Release ----OCTOBER

slippage?????? not more than 1 MONTH    hopefully!!!!!!

YOUR CONCERN IS THE FIRST DEADLINE ----MARCH 2011
and NO this does NOT mean you can leave it to the last minute.
Remember the addage: First come first served!

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:42 PM

WAV files preferred
would prefer to NOT have MP3, MP4, WMA ie compressed files, tho I won't totally exclude them if there is no other choice.

It is possible to clean up recordings in some cases.(but we still can't make a silk purse....) Technological advances have given us some handy tools to tweak issues.

And yes we are also more aware of quality and audio levels (normalisation)

I don't think it would be in our interests to specialise, or theme the CDs. The variety of the previous set was IMHO a great assett to the series.
If it came to choosing between two artists, one of whom was on the first series and one not, then the newcomer would get my vote.

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:53 PM

Now here's a challenge.
You remember the multiple artists recording of PERFECT DAY????? And Maxie's Mudcat Blues (on Orchid)?

Well how about some of you folks getting together and doing a Mudcat collaboration for the CD?

It could be as simple as a number of people singing one line of a trad song! Then if we could also have a different one for each of the CDs!!!
I'm sure this could be done with the technology we have around us.

C'mon, y'know ya want to! you an' a few buddies.

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New BLUE PLATE SPECIALs Series 2
From: maeve
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 07:04 PM

Olddude should be in on this one.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 08:39 PM

Way to go, Bradfordian!! Delighted to see a real project schedule laid out. Good start.

Many of the first series arrived in MP3. Others came in AIFF, some on cassettes which I streamed into SoundStudio. Some came on microdiskettes which I fortunately had a player for and could stream into SoundStudio.

SoundStudio and its PC counterparts have many filters for adjusting sound. I am fond of SoundSoap for cleaning up hums and crackles.

Here's to great start!


A

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:34 AM

mp3 files can be sent by email as they're a reasonable size. Some email clients can't handle WAV files - too large.

Is there an address where a CD containing WAV file(s) could be sent? Or can your mailbox cope with these?

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 10:21 AM

OK, looks like its gonna be easier to handle MP3s in e-mails.
I did a test and sent a 16MB WAV file from Hotmail. Took 5 mins to upload, but I received straight away. I got bags of room in my mailbox - 7GB.
The max size of attachment for hotmail, yahoo & gmail is 25MB, so this may be too small for some songs in WAV format.
Note that also your email provider has a limit of the size it can receive which may smaller, ie my virgin media says 20MB.
So anything over 20MB is gonna be problematical.

Be happy to send out my address by PM for CDs but please note, I am UK based. Do we need a base each side of the pond?

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 10:57 AM

I love the idea of each of us singing one line of a trad song. Count me in for that, too.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 12:44 PM

It has been suggested that we also run with a BLUE BOTTLE SPECIAL 2 and a seasonal CD (which is something which might not be done otherwise, and Christmas songs would not be selected for the main CDs anyway)in conjunction with the Blue Plates. I'm happy to receive submissions for these on the basis that while the iron is hot..... I can always delegate those tasks if necessary.

I'm satisfied I can import and decompress MP3s & other compressed files, so when emailing, send compressed files.

Any of you techy guys want to suggest how we can get a collaborative effort going?
One suggestion for a song could be RAGLAN ROAD, but there are hundreds of other songs too!

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Genie
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 12:56 PM

You can upload audio and video files to sites like MediaFire.com, free, and then send bradfordian the links so he can download them. This works really well for files that are too large for email.

I think the files uploaded to MediaFire can be in AIFF, wav, mp3 or other formats too.

Genie

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 06:47 PM

I can dub a second track onto any file I receive, to add a voice or instrument to it.

Anyone can do this if they can listen to one while recording the other, even if they are using cassette equipment. Synchronizing them into a combined file may be a bit of work, though.


A

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: olddude
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:25 PM

You are welcome to any of mine, just take your pick and download whatever you wish off soundclick

Thank you

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: olddude
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:55 PM

You can download Amos mp3 at http://www.soundclick.com/amosmudcat
I think I set it for download, maybe not, just let me know Amos if you want me to set it or check it

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 08:19 PM

Please submit WAV files if at all possible. You don't have to upload them; just burn a disc and mail it in.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: IvanB
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 08:22 PM

I'm in, as well. Had intended to participate in the first set but let time get away from me. I'll determined not to let that happen again.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Big Mick
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 11:24 PM

Count me in. Great idea!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Morticia
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 12:50 PM

Very happy to participate and thanks for asking Barrie, but as one or two others have said, I would like to see those who did not get a chance the first time given priority.

Having said that, I will ask the ladies in the Shanty Annas if they would like to contribute, we weren't together then.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Amergin
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 01:06 PM

I have some of my poems recorded....if that would be ok with you.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 04:58 PM

Amergin, nothing less than Eskimo Nell, I hope;
Morticia, the newcommers get the A side and the veterans get the B side ;-)
bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Nick
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 06:47 PM

You send it is an easy and free way to move files up to 100mb around very easily without worrying about email limits

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 09:05 PM

I'm in as well.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Tootler
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 03:24 PM

I'm interested.

Much of my stuff is solo wind instrument (recorder, flute and some harmonica). If I put up raw recordings of a couple of my own compositions, would anyone be interested in adding accompaniment? We could create an online band with the members long distances apart.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Nick
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 03:48 PM

If you want some accompaniment no problem

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Tootler
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 07:12 PM

And you have accompanied me before, Nick - remember the Three Tuns in Thirsk?

Now I need to sort some files out.

Changing the subject,

Uploading in FLAC might be an idea. Lossless compression and file size about 60% that of WAV.

I just did a comparison. Exporting a file from Audacity to 16 bit WAV produced a file of 34MB, the same file in FLAC was 20MB. A significant saving.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 08:18 PM

I'm using Audacity which can import and export FLAC files, which can then be turned into WAV files. The files are bigger than MP3 but smaller than WAV (so should fit within a 20MB email attachment limit) but the quality is better than MP3. Sounds good to me!

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Alan Day
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 04:19 AM

Thanks for your message.I am sure that Will and I can contribute something for this,I will discuss it with him tonight.
Al

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Fidjit
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 06:03 AM

Have sent you an e-mail with mp3 Will follow up with details of me and song.

Chas

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 08:09 AM

I'm in, though it will have to be MP3 which I can email.

How practicable is the "first come first served" policy? It sounds like the size-limit has already been exeeded, or soon will be - is there pressure on us to rush a submission to you? If so, does that mean not to bother if the quota has been filled? If not, how on earth do you choose? A chronological queue might be the most logical, but does this give the best musical results? (Pull-names-out-of-a-hat would be the most fair, but ditto.) I had wondered about recording something especially for this, but if there's time-pressure I can't.

How will all this work in practice? But it's a brilliant, brilliant idea.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:22 PM

I have a song from our last CD that I'd like to send for a holiday album (December Waltz) and a song from our future CD as a mudcat preview. However, my evaluation version of winzip only compresses the 33mb wav file down to 31mb, still not small enough to email. Is there a way to vary the ratio?

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 01:37 PM

Nothing's settled--I don't see that we're anywhere near ready to say that any limit has been exceeded.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 02:08 PM

The only quota we have is for 5 albums (max) tho it may well be less depending on the submissions. All material of suitable quality submitted by end March will be considered. Just don't everybody wait until March!!!!

For series 1 (5 CDs) we had 70 contributors and approx 100 songs.

Barbara, you could consider uploading the songs as wav files to www.mediafire.com (no membership required) and PM me the links.

Material is now arriving by e-mail, & by post. Thanks to those on the ball.

Thanks for peoples pledges, I will be following these up!

Still loking for material for the seasonal CD and the childrens CD.
Its never been so easy to make a digital recording. Experiment!

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 03:27 PM

OK then - it was the "first come first served" that confused me, because it seemed to give a clear indication.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Tootler
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 04:24 PM

Barbara,

See my earlier post. If you have Audacity (and it's available as a free download) you can save your song as a FLAC. On the basis of my trial, your 33MB WAV file should save as about 20MB. FLAC is a lossless compression so no data is lost.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 07:54 PM

Tootler, I do have Audacity but it doesn't have the option to save as a FLAC that I can find. I opened the wav file and tried to save it but the only options were to export it as mp3, ogg vorbis (what is that?) and wav. I looked into mediafire.com and will upload files there, but I would like to know how to save as FLAC in Audacity.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 04:16 AM

What version of Audacity do you have Barbara?
I have 1.3.11 which can IMPORT and EXPORT FLAC files.
It might be worth updating if your version is older.

AUDACITY version 1.3.12 here

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 08:41 AM

I had Audacity version 1.2 and have now updated to 1.3.12. Yes, it will export FLAC. Now what should I use to play FLAC files?

Have uploaded files to mediafire.com and will put together some notes before sending you the links. But first, morning tea and the Sunday paper!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Susan of DT
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 05:44 PM

My singing has improved to the point where I might do one this time and I'll bug Dick to do one.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:13 PM

Barbara, only specialist hardware/software can play FLAC files. These files are primarily used to send and receive over the airwaves cos they are compressed -but better compressed (tho not smaller)than MP3s because they (supposedly) dont loose any of the original quality.

So once you receive a Flac file, you decompress it (import) to so that you can then "play" with it. Or if finished, turn it into MP3 or WMA to put onto a portable player or Wav for CDs. I think the main claim of compressed FLAC files is that they are "loseless" whereas MP3s canot claim that feature, and quality may suffer.

Hope this helps
Bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Tootler
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 06:25 PM

Try VLC media player. It plays back FLAC files fine on my Ubuntu Linux system. There are also versions for Windows and Mac.

You can download VLC player free at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

I use it as my regular media player for both audio and video.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 02:51 PM

Let's face it. Any sound files that are used will have to be converted to WAV format to put on the CD. Submitting iun any other format makes more work for mother.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Tootler
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 05:47 PM

Yes but using compressed formats makes it easier for transferring the data across the Internet. Of course there is then a trade off between quality and file size, especially with lossy compression so there is then the matter of what is an acceptable trade off.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 08:02 PM

Mediafire.com was very easy and works well to upload wav files. Compression not needed. Just put it out there and bradfordian can download it. Seems to be secure enough: only people to whom you send the link can download the file because searches are not possible and therefore no one can find it except the intended recipient. In fact you can also make it "private" with a password so even the link is more secure.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: KT
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 04:59 AM

Oooh, this sounds like fun! I'd like to give it a shot.

Thanks, Bradfordian, for lighting the fire, and to everyone who's in on this! Can't wait to hear it!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Tootler
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 03:47 PM

You can upload files to Sound Cloud: http://soundcloud.com/ and make them downloadable.

They will accept files in any common audio format, mp3, wav, aiff, Flac & Ogg.

There is a limit on how much you can upload but it is defined in playing time not file size. The free version gives you 120 minutes. As long as you make your file downloadable then it can be downloaded in the format it was uploaded.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 03:57 PM

BF:

If you don't make KT produce a cut to be included, you will be hunted down and chastised for the omission!!


A

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Cool Beans
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 08:36 PM

I'd like to contribute one of my songs.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: reggie miles
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 12:21 AM

I've not been poking around the Cafe much lately. I'm glad that I dropped by today and found this thread.

One of my songs, "The Girl With The Shimmy In Her Pants", was included in the first set. I would be delighted to have the opportunity to be a part of this new project as well.

Some of my songs would never have been written had it not been for my time spent here. "Drunk" and "A Dilly Of A Tale", are two examples of songs that came into being due to my postings here. Though, I can't imagine what song or songs that I'd offer from among the selection of songs that I now have available.

I'm in the midst of developing the songs that will fill my next three recordings but I have few recorded as yet. With the deadline for submissions that far off, perhaps I'll be able to offer some of my newest work to this effort.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 04:56 AM

As a parallel task, I am collecting material for a Christmas/Hanuka/Winter CD and have a few contributions. Prior to and during the holiday period, if any of you are performing or preparing suitable songs, if someone could have a recording device and then upload them to me, it would be much appreciated. I need about 20 items, and hopefully the CD would be made available by next Christmas along with the Blue Plate Special 2 set.

For any members seeing this for the first time, I'm still on the lookout for contributions to the Blue Plate Special 2. I've probably got enough for the first CD now, but keep them coming. See previous posts for further details.

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:11 AM

CD in the post. It's over to you now :)

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: My guru always said
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:33 AM

This is going to sound a little naive, but can someone explain this 'copyright' thing in words of one syllable to me please?

For instance, the stuff I've recorded is from my live 'gigs' and is usually just me singing. My homemade CD's are just giveaways amongst friends and fellow song-lovers.

Do I need to get in touch with the songwriter of a contemporary song for permission?

If so, perhaps I should just send a 'trad' song, but I think I know which song people would prefer...

Hils

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: GUEST,999
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 09:00 AM

In simple words.

Suppose I wrote a song that you wish to perform. IF I have released that song to the general public, you can do it--record it--without my permission. HOWEVER, you would `owe` me about $100 if you then released it for sale to the public in a CD run of 1000.

IF I had never released that song you wish to record, you would require written permission from me to do so because I automatically have what`s called first recording rights.

At present, there`s a fellow in Brazil who wants to do a song I released a few years back. He ain`t rich. I told him to go ahead and if he sells a million copies to send me some money. Otherwise, not to worry about fees to me.

It becomes a different animal if there is a recording company involved. The above still applies, BUT, I may have signed a deal whereby the recording--publishing--company owns some of my rights, and therefore you`d have to deal with them, not me.

Hope that`s clear.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 09:50 AM

Further, the use of the word "copyright" can be confusing because a song we have long considered traditional can be copyrighted, but the copyright applies to the arrangement of the song rather than the song itself. E.g., a version of "Lorena" or "Sally Gardens". The song itself is trad and you are free to perform it. You can record and copyright your recording of it.

In general a song used in the original Mudcat CDs had to be one we could safely identify as traditional, or one you had written, or one you had already published on a CD elsewhere. The last thing we wanted in the project was to run up against some barbarian OCD from Foxx.

A

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:27 PM

Many thanks Amos & 999 for your explanations, I'll have to see what I can do about contacting the author of Ravens. It would be a good one to include & I have a decent recording somewhere around here....
Cheers!
Hils

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 05:34 AM

Thank you John MacKenzie, I received the CD "HALCYON DAYS" this morning. This is a lovely trad/contempory mix. I'm interested in tracks 9/16/17.

Did you compose the instrumental HALCYON DAYS?

Bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 05:42 AM

Yes the Halcyon Days instrumental is mine, and can be used FOC for Mudcat purposes, if you wish.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:38 AM

Mr Kennedy sir, Thank you very much for your selection of material which I received this morning, about 6am. Although I'd only retired to bed at about 2am, I was glad to be able to help the articulated truck reverse up my cul-de-sac in order to off load the pallets. Such choice!!!!

I have to declare that your album "Seamus Kennedy Gets On Everybodies Nerves" did seem to strike a chord somewhere deep down in my sub-conscious sleep walking like trance (from pallet no 3). So I'm wondering about the possibility of inflicting -- sorry, gracing the series with "I know an old lady who swallowed a fly" or the even more appealling "Dont stick your finger up your nose" Perhaps I should put it up for public vote!

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:46 AM

Fellow 'catters, I beg your attention for a few moments.

I'm getting a feeling that some of you are thinking that this project is more for experinced / semi-pros, or even pros.

This could NOT be further from the truth. The charm and appeal of the first series lay in its grass root level involvement, although there was some input from a couple of professionals.

I would like to reiterate that this is for US the members to partake in a community project, be part of it, oh, and by the way, raise a few bucks for Mudcat -- which after all has costs which are NOT met by member subscriptions.

If you play an instrument, sing in a singaround/house concert/folk club/ in the bathroom, we would like to hear from YOU.

More info higher up the thread.

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 05:19 PM

Loads of impassioned comments in the "end of Folkwaves" thread.

I'm wondering if that passion can be turned to supporting our own community folk project.
Folk music, it's what we do, it's worthy of making use of every opportunity to promote and disseminate. Let's demonstrate what we got, what we can do.

C'mon dudes, get your name down here for a track on the Blue Plate Special 2. Its called being pro-active.

bradfordian

PS Maybe someone might be minded to come up with a "save folkwaves" protest song.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 05:33 PM

Folkwaving not drowning, sort of thing?

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 05:37 PM

`Folk music, it's what we do`

If that`s the way it`s gotta be, count me out.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Amos
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 05:39 PM

HEY!! NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU PLAY, WHAT YOU SING...SEND A CUT IN FOR THE MUDCAT CD ROUND 2!!!

MAKE IT HAPPEN!! GET YOUR MUSIC ON!! DO IT THIS WEEKEND!!!

Boskone out. ;>)

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 11:46 AM

Guest 999, no need to take that phrase as being prescriptive. Of course we do folk, and so much more.... We ARE a very "broard church" here at Mudcat, we DO have an eclectic range of styles among our number. --Someone wanted to do some Jake Thackeray, --but I think there was an issue over copyright.

We are not into rejecting any stuff that comes along on account of style.

The new CDs will be in the vein of the first series, tempered by what you dudes send along!

There are many people who would be delighted to hear your contribution on the CDs.

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: My guru always said
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 12:31 PM

I've just popped my recorded stuff in the post for Barrie to check out. If he thinks any are worthwhile to use I'll get on to the Authors permission thing. I'd be very glad to be a part of this endeavour.

Many thanks for your efforts Barrie, we appreciate your hard work!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: maeve
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 04:56 PM

Friend 999- Your music is wanted for this CD series. Got that?

Maeve

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: GUEST,999
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 05:10 PM

I thought it had been restricted to folk or folkish songs. I`m recording now--over next month--and will send a mixed but not mastered song to bradfordian. Thank you.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: My guru always said
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 05:42 PM

Guest, 999 - I look forward to hearing you again on the Blue Plate specials!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: maeve
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 06:07 PM

That's great. I'm glad to hear you'll take part. You too, Hils.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bbc
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 08:21 AM

I just saw this thread & I'd love to contribute the song I sang for Sandy Paton's memorial--My Dearest Dear--if I can figure out a way to send it in. It's on a recording done at the memorial.

Barbara

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: ClaireBear
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 01:19 PM

I would love to take part, too, if I can get a good enough quality recording.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 02:56 PM

Being laid up with the dreaded flu these past few days, I got the opportunity to listen to some of the material I got coming in for the BPS2 CDs. Very encouraging to see stuff from catters who were not on BPS1, but also some great stuff from a couple of the "veterans" too! One I've just heard for the first time has really BLOWN ME AWAY!!!! WOW, you guys are in for a real treat when this gets out. Now, just between you and me, you know I can't give too much away at this stage but what I can tell you is, it is beautiful. . I do have to keep the contributors name secret at this time until things get confirmed etc, so no guessing now. Right? But I did have to blow a little volcanic ash off before it would play!

It is lovely to see people dropping by and picking up on this project and I NEED MORE OF YOU to still keep on coming with your contributions as it will give it a broader feel and appeal.
We have members in many countries including Germany and there could be a German song in the pipeline. (We did have a french song on BPS1). On having an international membership,......... HOW ABOUT A BIT MORE INTEREST FROM THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE?
and you 'catters still thinking about it, JUST DO IT!!!!!   remember it IS about US getting together and doing what we do.      DEADLINE       31 MARCH 2011 PM or EMAIL [e-mail]

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:36 PM

And can I please put in a plea for more songs from our WOMEN members and a few more instrumentals in order to get a balance?
I do still have a few promises --not THAT sort :-( -- and half promises which I expect/hope to come good in the new year.

brad

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 03:22 PM

Ain`t my place to be thanking you, bradfordian, but I do. It`s a heckuva lotta work on your end.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: r.padgett
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 05:16 AM

Bradfordian

I have my first CD with some 14 tracks on can I sent this by snail mail as believe it or not I have difficulty in sending tarcks by email?

pm me and I will send a copy, all trad so take yer pick!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: henryclem
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 08:27 PM

Hi Bradfordian

I would love to be part of this - my songs cover a wide range of subjects and moods. If you pm me I too can send you CDs and offer a selection of possibilities to spare you the pain of having to listen all the way through !

Some are on myspace.

Henry

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 04:15 AM

I'd love to supply something if only I had a decent sounding recording of me singing.

I really should get a better voice recorder.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Will Fly
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 06:01 AM

VT - if you'd like to do some recording - video+audio or just audio - PM me and we'll fix something up. I'm in West Sussex - not a million miles from anywhere in the south.

Contact me if you're interested.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: My guru always said
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 05:27 AM

That's a lovely offer Will Fly, it would be good to get a recording of VT on this set!!!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:23 PM

I.T.M.A. Just a note to anyone dropping by who's not been around for the past month or two. We got a new Mudcatters Sampler CD set on the go again and anyone who wants to donate a song/tune can either PM me or declare it publically right here on the thread. A song/tune in the public domain, or your copyright, closes end March, but really you should make that end of Feb -- I know some of you are already working on contributions and I look forward to seeing those drop thru the electronic letterbox in the next few weeks. Songs from CDs & youtube accepted.

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Tootler
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:38 PM

I've sent you a PM with some links.

Cheers and all the best with the venture.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Anne Lister
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 09:26 AM

Song on the way from my husband's email addy.

Anne

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Anne Lister
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 09:29 AM

Just re-read back up the thread ... the song I'm sending would be best on your seasonal album! Do you want something else for the BPS?

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 10:24 AM

Thanks MGAS... I have permission from 2 artists to record my 2 fav songs. I am hoping I can get over this nasty viral thing I have picked up so I can record them.

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 12:17 PM

Yes Anne, 1 for the seasonal & 1 for the BPS2 would be much appreciated. Thank you.

And I also have obtained permission from an artist for a song.
There are also a couple more permissions in the can for copyrighted songs.

The project is now at 50% and going well, but guys if you've shown interest, don't leave it too long...............please!!!!!!!

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: ClaireBear
Date: 07 Jan 11 - 01:10 PM

Just arranged for the song for this project to be recorded. Hurrah!

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 01:31 PM

It has been an eerily quiet 3 weeks since Christmas. A couple of songs dropped thru my mailbox just enough to prevent me thinking that you had all gone into hibernation. But of course, I know that in reality, you are all busy polishing up those promised contributions--and so close to dispatching them to me!!!!! So I thought I would just give you a gentle nod that time is marching relentlessly on.

Actually, the main thrust of this post is to announce that I have received permission to include a song from BARRY FINN. That is in addition to the LonesomeEJ / David Coffin "SONG FOR BARRY"

I am also in negotiation to include a song from THERESA TOOLEY.

I do hope that this meets with your approval, as these two people have had a significant presence in aspects of our music either side of "the pond"

I have also been trying to encourage some of "the management" to participate in this project, but as of yet, my endeavours have still to bear fruit!!!!! (oh, was that a HINT!!!!)

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 06:16 PM

Anyway, while things are quiet.........

For those wonderful folk who have already sent me songs, I am now sending out requests for the lyrics for those submitted songs, AND for notes/comments for sleeve/liner notes.
Please check your PMs.

For those who are about to send songs thru (as opposed to CDs) it would be appreciated if you could either send the lyrics and notes when you send the song or have them ready if you prefer to wait to see if the song will indeed be used on the CDs

I have 3 CDs which are well on their way to being completed, they all just need a few songs from women of which there seems to be a bit of a dearth ("songs from women"!--you know THAT'S what I meant!) ---and maybe another instrumental. ANY OFFERS???? (before this wall cracks!)

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 10:23 AM

Don't through a plate at me when I say I was going to try out my voice yesterday when I realised my Rog hadn't hooked up the mic when we moved my PC recently, then forgot to ask him to do it, last night.:-) I will, I will!**bg** Now..if the voice comes back.

Come on MudGals!! Let's show them our stuff!!

kat

Subject: RE: Tech: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bbc
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 06:44 AM

Barrie, I hope to be sending 2 songs from me & 1 from Duane D. We haven't been heard except at the first Get-Away attended by Mudcatters & at Lee Haggerty's memorial (except for an open mike at Chocolate Church in Maine, with Charley Noble, Naemanson, & Kendall!), so it would be fun to be included. One of my two is from the memorial session for Sandy Paton at last spring's NEFFA, hosted by Caroline & Katy Westra. Duane is working on them now. Thanks so much for doing this!

Barbara

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: GUEST,moira(flyingcat)
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 05:41 AM

Meant to get in touch before, I'd love to contribute a track from my solo CD if you want it. Let me know what to do. Moira

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: rich-joy
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 08:05 AM

Things have been a bit busy for me of late, here in Down Under land, what with Floods and Woodford festival work, but, I'd be interested in contributing if there's still room?

Cheers, R-J
Australia

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 08:39 AM

There is still time to submit songs/TUNES.

Moira, either upload a song (WAV file) to www.mediafire.com and mail me the link ([e-mail]) or mail me your CD (PM me for my address)

R-J same for you --for the first part anyway. It would be great to have the first contribution from "down under"

Remember -- public domain or your composition. By end of March LATEST!!!!

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Zen
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 10:59 AM

I'm still planning to record something for this. Bradfordian, if you are in greater need of instrumentals I can do that if you prefer?

Zen

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: bradfordian
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:47 AM

I have 2 instrumental tunes for each CD and a third would be great, so yes instrumental please.
And if anyone has a HARP, HAMMERED DULCIMER, NORTHUMBRIAN PIPES or MELODIAN number, I think that would show off our variety and scope pretty well.

bradfordian

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: RamblinStu
Date: 22 Jan 11 - 07:28 AM

Yep count me in too

Stuart Pendrill

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Nick
Date: 30 Jan 11 - 05:18 PM

First collaboration just about done subject to Tootler's ok with it and a bit of tidying round the edges.

Onto the next one now.

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: Cuilionn
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 12:35 PM

I've never recorded anything of my own other than a Scots poem that will soon be appearing on 'Catter Julia L's/Castlebay's "Imbolc" CD. However, I might be able to contribute another poem or perhaps a Gaelic song if someone else can help me record it.

--Cuilionn

Subject: RE: Mudcat CD: New 'Blue Plate Specials' Series 2
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 07:04 PM

New thread here.