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Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy

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Subject: Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 05:40 PM

Can anyone help me with the chords Ave Maria by Eleanor Mcevoy?


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Subject: RE: Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: The Maverick
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 05:41 PM

Do I have to login in before posting - I see it put me down as a guest
Threads combined. Messages below are from a new thread. Best way to find old threads is to use the Filter on the main forum page, and set the age back a bit. Threads drop off the menu if nobody posts to them for 24 hours, but they can always be revived with a new message.
-Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-


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Subject: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: The Maverick
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 03:16 AM

I did post a request last week but it appears to have disappeared despite putting a trace on it, but then I haven't worked out how this forum works, and I'm guessing I'll appear as a guest.
Can anyone help with the lyrics/chords for Ave Maria by Eleanor McEvoy.


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 11:17 AM

I've done a little looking, but haven't found a place on the Internet where I could hear the song. Usually, I go to YouTube for things like this, but the song doesn't seem to be there.

Your request from Nov 21 is still around, but it dropped from the screen because nobody had replied for 24 hours. (I brought it up by setting the time for 14 days.)

Unfortunately, nobody seems to know the tune and to have worked out the chords. At least nobody that's seen your request, Maverick.

Newly-written, copyrighted works such as this song must be can a problem this way.


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 11:55 AM

Well, the lyrics are easy to find by googling. Chords: if you cannot identify them by ear, are you sure you want to perform the song?


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Subject: add: Ave Maria (Eleanor McEvoy)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 04:29 PM

For the record, here are the lyrics to this song. I found it at http://www.eleanormcevoy.com. It's on her Early Hours CD. You can hear a sample of the song here and a YouTube recording of part of the song here (click). Maybe some nice guitarist can come up with chords from that. I used to listen to her a lot, but then she became too "pop" for me (or I became too "trad" for her).

AVE MARIA
(Eleanor McEvoy)

Ave Maria, don't let her down
In your powder blue robe and your shiny gold crown
See, she's put all her trust in you
Like she was brought up to do
So Ave Maria don't let her down
You can't let her down

Ave Maria, won't you be kind?
'Cause she's spoken those prayers
Each day of her life
And the suffering that she goes through
She offers it up to you
So Ave Maria please be kind
Try to be kind.

Ave Maria, gracia plaina
Ave Maria, if you're really there
With your perfect white skin and your shiny brown hair
When she kneels amongst the crowd
And sings the "Ave" out loud
Ave Maria, don't you care?
Don't you care?

Ave Maria, gracia plaina

Ave Maria




"gracia plaina" - that's not the way I spell "gratia plena."
I'm not much of a guitarist, and I can't hear the chords; but it looks like she's playing it in "G" capo up 2 - (pattern is G, C, D7)


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 06:16 AM

Right, Joe. Basically fingering G e C (resp. A) D7 in slight variations. G major up 2 makes it A major, suitable for baritones of any gender. You may want to transpose the song, but don't push the capo up further. Choose a different voicing instead.

As with many such songs, the lyrics are the dominant feature. One thing is interesting about the music though: McEvoy quotes a line of Franz Schubert's tune to "Ellen's prayer" from Sir Walter Scott's "The Lady of the Lake". "Gratia plena" is from a later adaptation, and "gracia plaina" later still ;-).

(In Rossini's opera "La donna del lago", the role of Chieftain Roderick Dhu demands a male tenor singing about an octave higher than Eleanor McEvoy.)


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 07:00 AM

Correction: In the Youtube video, the capo is three semitones up, i.e. sounding Bb major. Still within my own voice range (baritone).


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 03:25 PM

Let's try this. See if you can work it out if you start in the middle.

I listened to as much of that video as I can stand, and I'm gonna make a MIDI of the phrase 'Ave Maria, tum tee to you.' I'm gonna put it in the guitar-friendly key of D. You figure it out in D, then transpose it to whatever key suits your voice.

I'll send the snippet to Joe, along with the names of the chords. If you need help changing the key, get back to us.


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 03:41 PM

I sent the fragment and some tips to Joe, and he should be able to post it here. Be patient, because today is Thanksgiving in the U.S., a major holiday.
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D D D A D G G D A
A ve Ma ri a tum tee to you

I'm not good with timings, but I'm pretty sure it's in 4/4. The 'A' in 'Ave' is just a pick-up note, so when you are working out the chords, you can skip it at first. The first note of the song is an F#.

You probably won't need all these chords to perform it. This is just to get started with.
=============

Click to play (EleanorAveChords.mid)


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 04:05 PM

Link to MIDI above.


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 05:32 PM

Maverick, do you want to use the chords to accompany yourself on the guitar? Or on another instrument? What is your voice range? Are you familiar with the concept of transposition? Do you possess a complete recording? Is it in Bb major?

I wrote above: "If you cannot identify them by ear, are you sure you want to perform the song?" This was not meant as rude as it may sound - sorry. What I want to say: having read the chord names and knowing how to finger them is not sufficient to make a good performance, you should also try to understand the grammatical meaning of the chords, so to speak. (Joe, of course, is an expert in this discipline, but a chivalrous liar. The other day I watched him singing "The Key of R" on Youtube.)

I qualify for some nice guitarist in the sense of "nice try". If further help is desired, just ask.


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 06:54 PM

Chivalrous liar?????

Hmmmmm.....I like that.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 11:59 AM

When I click on the link to the MIDI, I get the message 'not enough memory to complete this operation.' This happens whether I left click or right click. (Usually right-clicking works in this situation.)

There are no programs open beside IE.

Anybody know why this is?


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Nov 10 - 02:28 PM

I used to get that message quite often when I used Windows Media Player....one of the reasons I switched to Winamp.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 27 Nov 10 - 10:31 AM

Yesterday, it wouldn't play, but I just played it. It's not my computer, it's somewhere else, but I don't know where.

Here's hoping Maverick (or anybody else) can use it to get started.


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Mar 17 - 10:31 AM

Has anyone got the chords for It's Mine by Eleanor Mcevoy?


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Subject: RE: Chords Ave Maria - Eleanor McEvoy
From: leeneia
Date: 10 Mar 17 - 10:18 AM

Guest, start a new thread called "Chord req: It's mine by Eleanor McEvoy"


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