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Captain Farrell 28 Nov 10 - 07:45 AM
Nigel Parsons 28 Nov 10 - 10:28 AM
GUEST,cc 28 Nov 10 - 10:38 AM
GUEST,cats 28 Nov 10 - 10:41 AM
EnglishFolkfan 28 Nov 10 - 01:12 PM
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Subject: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Captain Farrell
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 07:45 AM

Anyone know yet


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 10:28 AM

BBC4 on December 10th according to the article in the Sunday Telegraph

Cheers
Nigel


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,cc
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 10:38 AM


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,cats
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 10:41 AM

Sorry that was me above. Pressed the wrong button. Still folk dancing after all these years, fri 10 dec 9pm BBc4


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:12 PM

Thank you for this information, BBC Four Friday 10th Dec is going to be a real Folk Night with 4 programmes according to my online tv recording scheduler:

20.30 The Highland Sessions
21.00 & 01.00 Still Folk Dancing After All These Years
22.00 & 02.00 BBC Four Christmas Special Fire & Ice (repeat from last year Bellowhead, Unthanks etc)
23.00 & 03.00 Folk at the BBC pt1 The 50's/60's


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:31 PM

there is also somone on the night after teaching people to clog dance
a bit like the choir thing if i have read the schedules right


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:43 PM

They do like to keep us guessing don't they?
They keep on showing the trailer but just "coming soon"!!
Thanks for the details. Might be at a "real Folk Night" - LIVE - in Glasgow that night. so I'll set the DVD now!


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: mikesamwild
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 01:56 PM

I think Jackie Toaduff is involved.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Nov 10 - 02:11 PM

I always enjoy watching the folk dancing at festivals, and am really looking forward to these programmes.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 08:33 AM

I think that this is the film that Studio Lambert made featuring clog and step dancing et al. Apparently over the summer they toured the country looking for traditional dancers. I had a small input in London albeit with my ex-Reading Cloggies hat on. Apparently they went to one of the less publicised clog gatherings at Gateshead to film Jackie Toduff (who was announcing his new autobiog. book there). However I also understand that one vociferous member of the Newcastle clog scene expressed disapproval at the filming that they were doing and about the whole project. I believe that Trefor Owen also features along with a demonstration of him clog 'purring' - naked 'kick boxing' with clogs.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: mikesamwild
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 08:45 AM

Now that should have been in Women in Love with Alan Bates and Ollie Reed By the we called it purling' in Lancs , cats purr ( but not with clogs on )


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 09:18 AM

BBC Press release for the programme: Still Folk Dancing ... After All These Years
Friday 10 December 9.00-10.00pm BBC FOUR

Becky and Rachel Unthank explore the folk dance traditions of England
Young Northumbrian folk singers and sisters Rachel and Becky Unthank take a journey around England from spring to autumn 2010 to experience living folk dance traditions in action.

Themselves Northumberland clog dancers, they explore a shared passion for dance that comes from a place, a people or a season and make some moving and unexpected discoveries.

On a journey through the back gardens and narrow streets of towns and villages from Newcastle to Penzance they discover the most surprising dances, ceremonies, rituals and drunken antics that mark the turning of the seasons and the passing of the year.

On their journey, The Unthanks learn about the evolving history of the dances, whether connected to the land and the cycles of fertility, or to working customs and practices in industrial towns. They talk to local historians and visit Cecil Sharp House to explore the 20th-century revival of these dances and their codification through Sharp and others.

There's also extraordinary film archive of the dances through the decades showing that, although the people have changed, the dances have remained often remarkably constant.

The Unthanks are a Mercury-nominated English folk group, but this programme sees the sisters going back to their Northumberland clog dancing roots. Along their travels, they observe and try other English dances including travellers' step dancing in Suffolk, to horn dancing with huge antlers in Abbots Bromley and stick dancing in Oxfordshire.

As the Unthanks complete their journey, they reflect on the curious but vibrant world of local dances which flies in the face of modernisation and sometimes of ridicule, to keep the traditions and the steps alive.
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BBC Press release for the programme: Come Clog Dancing - Treasures of English Folk Dance Saturday 11 December 7.00-8.00pm BBC FOUR

Conductor and BBC Radio 3 presenter Charles Hazlewood has just two weeks to get Newcastle city centre clog dancing.

There was a time when each district of Britain was defined by its own style of folk music and dance, which grew from industries, landscape and the people who'd settled there. Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire formed the Morris dancing stronghold, while Yorkshire resounded to the dances of longsworders and out-of-work ploughboys entertained East Anglian crowds with their molly dances.

Clog dancing ruled the mill towns of the 19th-century North East and, in this series, Charles's mission is to reclaim the region's national dance and the area's identity by reconnecting the people of Newcastle with their very own cultural and dance heritage.

Made by the creative talents behind The Choir and Faking It, Come Clog Dancing tells of one man's mission to bring a community together through discovering their region's lost heritage of dance, and to stage the biggest clog dancing event the UK has ever seen.
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This programme is followed at 8pm by the Folk at the BBC pt2 60's/70's


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 09:22 AM

December also see a new BBC Four Britannia programme but sadly there won't be so much folk dancing, although Folk names will feature in performance:

Festival Britannia Friday 17 December Time to be confirmed BBC FOUR

Continuing the highly successful and critically acclaimed Britannia series for BBC Four, Festivals Britannia tells the story of the emergence and evolution of the British music festival through the mavericks, dreamers and dropouts who have produced and experienced them.

This 90-minute documentary traces the ebb and flow of British festival culture over the past 50 years and explores the central tension between people's desire to come together, dance to the music and build temporary communities; and the desire of the state, councils and locals to police these often unruly gatherings. At the heart of the documentary is an ongoing argument about British freedoms set to a wonderful soundtrack of 50 years of great popular music.

The programme tells the festival story in three parts, Something In The Air; Ramble On; and A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours. Firstly, it looks at how a heady mix of youth-music festivals and politics combined in the early Sixties to create the rumblings of Britain's first counter-cultures. Exploring events such as the early jazz festivals at Beauliue and the National Jazz and Blues festivals, the free Hyde Park concerts and the first Isle of Wight festival, the film traces the evolution of music and festival culture through the Sixties and explores the gathering arguments about whether rock 'n' roll and festivals should be free.

Ramble On charts the reaction against commercialism and the golden era of the free festival movement in the Seventies. When an aristocratic hippie called Andrew Kerr teamed up with Somerset dairy farmer Michael Eavis to put on Glastonbury Fayre in 1971, it unwittingly became the spiritual birthplace of the free festival movement. This section explores the notion of festivals becoming more about an alternative, nomadic way of life. The Sixties hippie ideal of a new society was becoming an alternative reality for a growing number of people but the advent of Conservative rule in 1979 would change British festival culture for ever.

A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours looks at how festival counter-culture came head to head with the establishment and how it was eventually co-opted by mainstream society. At the dawn of the Eighties, unemployment and strikes were rife, with new sub-cultures emerging, such as punk and the new wave of heavy metal, as festivals such as Donington and Reading became society's pressure-release valves. The original hippie idealists were being joined by the post-punk urban squatters and this collective, known as the "Peace Convoy", would change the face of the free festival movement beyond recognition by 1984's Stonehenge Festival.

The programme investigates the emergence of rave culture in the late Eighties and explores the changes forced by stricter controls and tighter legislation in the Nineties and beyond. With big business and TV broadcasting moving in, the ideological battle for the heart of Britain has faded away, as music and big name acts have returned to the forefront of the festival stage.

Produced and directed by Sam Bridger, the programme features contributions from Michael Eavis, Richard Thompson, Acker Bilk, Terry Reid, The Levellers, Billy Bragg, John Giddings, Melvin Benn, Sandy Sanderson.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Captain Farrell
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 09:25 AM

|Thanks to all you catters info is now stored


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: akenaton
Date: 29 Nov 10 - 10:13 AM

Went to see THIS
    group in our little village hall, i was knocked out by their enthusiasm

Spoke too them after the show, and did areview for their website....lovely friendly girls...from Oakland CA


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 10:03 AM

PROGRAMME: Get Your Clogs On: December 2010: BBC4 documentary featuring:

LAURA CONNOLLY: Champion Clog Dancer and member of the award winning Demon Barber Roadshow (Best Live Act BBC Folk Awards)

CHARLES HAZELWOOD: Conductor and Musician

BBC4 Saturday 11th December 2010: 7:00pm to 8:00pm
BBC4 Sunday 12th December 2010: 11:35pm to 12:35am
BBC4 Thursday 16th December 2010: 7:30pm to 8:30pm

In the last decades of the 19th century there was a dance, now rarely seen, that resounded through the collieries and pit villages of the north east of England - the clog dance. For conductor and musician Charles Hazlewood, it has become an obsession and he plans to put it back on the map by staging a mass flashmob clog dance. Helped by a team of local enthusiasts led by clog dancer Laura Connolly, Charles recruits and trains 140 men and women from across the north east to ambush the public with a six-minute performance in Newcastle.
Stereo, Repeat, Widescreen, Subtitles


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 10:41 AM

A positive write up on the BBC Programme with photo:

The Guardian Thursday 2 December 2010
Clog dancing's big street revival
Britain's cottonmill workers used to dance it. Then it became a mark of shame. Now clog dancing has returned to where it belongs – the streets

"People forget that clogging was originally a street dance," Connolly says. "It was competitive, it was cool, and now young people are beginning to rediscover it for themselves. As soon as we finished, I had kids coming up to me saying: that's sick – I want to do that. Clog dancing's sick!"

Clog dancing's big street revival

(ps for us old foggies "sick" is the new variant of good/cool/awesome ;)


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 11:02 AM

The Guardian today:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2010/dec/02/clog-dancing-revival

The Beech 10am tomorrow, Beech Road, Chorlton, Manchester

L in C#


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: greg stephens
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 03:40 PM

What goes round comes round, it's great. I used to work as Sam Sherry's accompanist, many many moons ago. With my trusty tenor banjo.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: JHW
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 04:21 PM

Did you mean WHAT is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Gerald Farrell
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 08:07 PM

Would it be possible for some kind soul to tape the Fire and Ice programme with Bellowhead and the Unthanks. I remember seeing this when it was first transmitted. I was having an absolutely horrible Christmas and this cheered me up no end. I rushed out and got their and Jim Morays latest albums as soon as I could. I'd love to have a copy on disc and will gladly pay for disc, p&p, time etc. I would really treasure it forever. Thanks


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 06:50 AM

Here's the BBC4 website details:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wgrtr


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Chris J Brady - re: Fire & Ice
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 04:21 PM

Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Gerald Farrell
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 08:07 PM

Would it be possible for some kind soul to tape the Fire and Ice programme with Bellowhead and the Unthanks. I remember seeing this when it was first transmitted. I was having an absolutely horrible Christmas and this cheered me up no end.

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I have this if you want it. ChrisJBrady AT Yahoo DOT com

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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Mick Tems
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 05:13 AM

I watched The Highland Sessions series on BBC4 on Friday night - absolutely superb! I spotted Donald Shaw from Capercaillie, the exquisite Mary Black and Liam from Hothouse Flowers while the main languages on the programme were Scottish and Irish Gaelic. Highland Sessions was a hidden treasure of rich and beautiful Gaelic culture - I'll be looking out in anticipation next Friday!


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 06:10 AM

I think Jackie Toaduff is involved

If the programme is serious he better be.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 06:44 AM

'still folk dancing' clashes with strictly...who's bright idea was that scheduling?!


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 04:47 PM

Not a problem to me LDT...Strictly is so far down the bottom of my Radar, along with X Factor, Celebrity, and all the other crap programmes designed to suite readers of the Sun.
This one at least looks interesting.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Norman Butlin
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 11:21 AM

I know it's not folk music but does anyone know what the "Just Dance" music is that's used on the BBC4 trailer for this programme?


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 06:58 PM

As Nessie and I are among the few who can't stand Strictly anyway, we did watch the "Still folk dancing..." programme on BBC4. Very good it was too, some lovely footage from all over the country and we learned quite a bit - though we missed any reference to Molly dancing. Factoid of the evening: they carbon-dated one of the antlers used by the Staffordshire Horn Dancers and found it to date back to 1020 or thereabouts. Wow!

And one unfortunate line by Rachel Unthank, when she saw the Bacup Britannia Coco dancers: "They look a little Greek-like" Eh? Pass me the ouzo!

But a very good programme, the Unthanks were good in it too, though the dances had the star role. Worth watching on iPlayer.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Folknacious
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 07:12 PM

"They look a little Greek-like" Eh?

Mini skirts, clogs - I can see the link


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: johnadams
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 07:14 PM

Yup! Definitely a Greek dance! Except that the Britannia Coconut Dancer's Pom-Poms have dropped off their clogs!


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Folknacious
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 07:25 PM

Yup! Definitely a Greek dance!

Comes from Greek Moorish pirate coal miners. I thought everybody knew that!


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: johnadams
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 07:35 PM

Not until you said it but now it's obvious innit!


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Folknacious
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 07:42 PM

That's what they told me anyway. I'm sure they'd never wind up the onlookers.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 08:05 PM

Still Folk Dancing....    on NOW (1.00am Sat 10 Dec) BBC4

Ross


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 10 Dec 10 - 08:32 PM

Quote of the programme has got to be the chap from Saddleworth Morris who said 'there are only so many idiots in an area, and that's us' (or
At least something along those lines, apologies
to the gentleman concerned from a fellow idiot if that is a slight misquote)

John


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:05 PM

I just watched the clog dance programme and saw the folk dancing programme yesterday. I am loving it. Not an ounce of the sneering, down the nose at the quaint, eccentrics doing their weird little ritual dances that I feared might happen.

Sensitive and enthusiastic, appreciative presentation.

Thank you BBC


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:06 PM

I must have watched just about every BBC4 folk programme since 2004, and the one I enjoyed the most just finished: "Come Clog Dancing" - and the rapper was great, too.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 03:15 PM

Impressed with the clog program. Didn't feel dusty or twee. It actually made me feel as a viewer (with two left feet) like I wanted to join in.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 05:16 PM

Just one minor gripe from me: I assume as it was arranged as a 'flash mob' there was little publicity if you weren't involved. I know how cross I'd have been if I still lived in Newcastle must missed it!

Seriously though, well done to all involved, especially those new to clogging


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 05:24 PM

As the idea of flash mob is to surprise the public with seemingly impromptu performance there would be no advertisement. Some dance sides were notified/invited. So any people attached to dancers in the area had a pretty fair chance of knowing about it in advance.

I wish I wish I did not have rheumatoid arthritis in hips, knees and feet. I would so join a side.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Alan Day
Date: 11 Dec 10 - 05:46 PM

I really enjoyed this programme.
Al


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Wheatman
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 03:04 AM

I just wish I had been there, even with the arthritis in the knee I would have taken part just for the BUZZ. All of that going on in the centre of the Toon, brilliant.
Johnson Ellwood tried to teach me to step some 40 years ago but I failed, just like learning the violin a school, I wish I had kept it up.
Here's to more of the like on the Telly.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Wolfhound person
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 04:36 AM

If dance sides were notified, VT, it begs the question of how many of that audience were already aficionados, or rellies of the people involved.

There was heavyweight backup organisation there. Musicians at the monument were Alistair A and Sandra Kerr, there would have licensing and crowd clearance issues: those oildrums didn't appear from nowhere.
They used the Assembly Rooms (one of Newcastle's most prestigious and expensive venues) to...well...assemble.

In the background music to the Jackie Toaduff interview there was a considerable chunk of "King's Hall" (aka Hepple Haugh by B. Pigg) played by the High Level Ranters, so that'll maybe 20p in royalties.It wasn't acknowledged though.

I hope...I really hope, it provokes lasting interest in the clog tradition which is still going, just. I'm not holding my breath, though.

Commando trad.......nah!!! Carefully orchestrated publicity for the in-crowd, more likely.

Paws (in cynical mood)


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Wheatman
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 04:57 AM

Any thing to do with the telly has to be arranged and programmed. I only know that too well , even with my limited experience. But any public enlightenment has got to be for the good. When I danced with Sallyport in the early seventies we were always being asked what country we came from when we were out on rapper tour (the kit, breeches and a sash confused) and that was in the North East where one hoped they knew better. The majority of the general public did not and still don't appreciate the fundamentals of British Traditional Dance but they do appreciate quality and show biz and it is our task to gently educate them to preserve the culture. Step down from soap box.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:46 AM

Just been inudated with folk things, 3 hrs catch up yesterday and an hour this am (Sunday) in between t'snooker watching

Saw Morris/clog/rapper wi't Unthanks, Saddleworth Rushcart annall, 60/70s folk withe Pentangle, Steeleye Span, Donovan, Martin Windsor and Red Sullivan

Clog dancing with a fine chappy ending up with a mass clog dance in the centre o Newcastle, lots of folk ppl spotted, saw Cumberland Arms session with Newcastle rapper, I saw you too Pete Wood, George Unthank, also seen Ali Anderson ~ I think camera man avoided the well known folkies as much as possible really!

Also BBC 4 Christmas prog Bellowhead, Sam Lee, Unthanks (again),
Balchazzar's Feast, among others

I thgought it all came over very well and shows trhe wealth of English music and song and traditions (I power to Doc Rowe too!!)

BBC now need to continue to record and promote recorded English music ~ ppl probably know that I am keen on BBC Alba too!

See BBC Radio Derby underthreat, sign the petition!! on fb

Ray


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 07:17 AM

I just left a comment at BBC site about the programmes on traditional dance and music, thanking them for sensitive treatment and asking for more.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: G-Force
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 08:57 AM

We loved the clog dancing programme but query the strange camera work. Lots of lovely clog dancing going on and what do we get - pictures of their faces! Same with the interviews. Over and over again they showed the interviewer and not the interviewee.

It happens with guitarists too. Are they paid NOT to show the left hand (with apologies to left-handers)!


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Gy Morris man
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 03:55 AM

How many of the flash cloggies have taken up clogging seriously since the programme was filmed?.
If only half of them it will be a success for traditional dancing.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Tom - Swords & Songs
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 11:45 AM

Well I was there - dancing with the Kingsmen - and I thought it was a quite good thing. The only mainstay folkies around were the 3 professional clog dancers: Laura, Tiny and Fiona, and then the 4 musicians - Paul Knox, Kevin Lees, Ruth Ball and Ali Anderson (3 of the 4 of them are part of the Kingsmen)

What impressed me most was that the vast majority of the participants in the crowd really were doing it on spec. There were so many people who turned up to learn who had not ever seen anything like this before - office workers, students etc.

You should have seen their faces when they first saw a rapper dance!

However, I don't know how many of them have actually taken up clog dancing, it would be interesting to talk to Brenda and see if her numbers have improved. - certainly we had no extra people come along to Kingsmen practice the next week...

Cheers
Tom


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Effsee
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 12:08 PM

It seems to be catching...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDWlCM_BmQs


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: DMcG
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 12:22 PM

What information was available that people who were interested had somewhere to turn? I presume those who part had info but I guess the crowd didn't


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Gy Morris man
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 01:16 PM

Seems the same when we that is Grimsby morris men go out, that looks good i would like to give it a try, we hand out flyers with contact numbers on where we practice, but not many take it up.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 06:08 AM

From what I can gather (The Proms, etc.), Charles Hazlewood is well-respected within the BBC, so hopefully "Come Clog Dancing," at least, will be one of the programmes that does make its way from BBC4 to BBC2.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 05:27 AM

Okay I'm in a quandry. I'd like to learn clog dance but I'm not wanting to do the 'morris' side of it all. Just want to learn for my own amusement and exercise (like you would learn ballroom dance). Is this possible?


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 05:51 AM

Any dancing that uses the percussive attributes of clogs is clog dancing. Go for it.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,L
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 06:13 AM

Just everything I look at down south to do with clogging seems to involve joining a side.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Laura Connolly
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 08:28 AM

Hello all,

I'm overwhelmed by all the comments and compliments i have received following the broadcast of 'Come Clog Dancing' so Thank you very much for your support!

To 'Guest L' whereabouts down south are you? I am infact relocating from the North East in the new year, probably to Oxfordshire.
I would love to start a clog class, send me an email if you are interested!
www.lauraconnolly.co.uk


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 08:31 AM

I'm from the south east Southend on sea way.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 09:22 AM

Clog dance workshop - The Beech, Beech Road, Chorlton, Manchester, early in the new year. PM me for further details

L in C#


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,mattkeen
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 04:45 AM

I loved the clog dancing progs


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 06:15 AM

Watching "Come Clog Dancing" again last night, I was reminded of how proud most English were (and can again be) of English good at English culture; then, flicking over to "The Royal Variety Performance," I was reminded of how proud most modern English are of English good at non-native American culture - the "That" in "Take That."

Or, instead of the American pop she performed, imagine Cheryl Cole at "The English Republics Variety Performance" singing "The Snows They Melt The Soonest", with, perhaps, Kathryn Tickell doubling the melody on Northumbrian smallpipes...

We need a cultural revolution as much as China needs another cultural revolution - Lang Lang, e.g., is good at European music on the piano/Lang Lang's father is good at Chinese music on the erhu.

When people lose their own culture, society suffers, and the world becomes less-and-less multicultural; or in verse - http://walkaboutsverse.webs.com/#209

Thus, as I say, I hope the excellent "Come Clog Dancing" soon finds its way onto BBC 2, and a still wider audience.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: s&r
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 09:35 AM

When people develop new cultural links, society gains, and the world becomes a richer place. A simple but clear, example of this is Zydeco, a fusion of black, white, French and American. Now a folk music and culture (and indeed a people) in its own right.

Cheryl's "flood" was OK - nothing wrong with mid Atlantic Geordie. I think her orchestration will sell a few more than your suggestion, much as I love Kathryn Tickell. And doubling a melody is just so unimaginative...


Stu


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 07:58 AM

Allan Macdonald was accompanying himself with Scottish pipes on a Highland Sessions re-run, last night - I'd say authentic and enjoyable NOT "unimaginative", Stu.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 08:05 AM

...by doubling the melody, i.e.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: s&r
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 04:16 PM

And are you now an expert on Scottish music as well as English American and Australian?

Stu


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: s&r
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 04:28 PM

Just out of interest, what was the melody line played on and what was the accompaniment line played on?

Stu


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 05:38 PM

He was singing a folk song and accompanying himself with the Scottish smallpipes, by doubling the melody (and, speak of the devil, he's doing the same right now on BBC Alba's Ceolraidh!). At a folk club here in England, I've heard the same with Northumbrian smallpipes - must take some doing, but very effective, in my opinion.


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: s&r
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 05:50 PM

Was this the one with the melodeon?

And don't the drones and ornaments count?

Stu


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 07:17 AM

It's on again on 2nd Jan:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wmy5q


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 05:48 AM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: when is the Clog/Folkdancing on BBC4
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Apr 11 - 12:35 PM

Available on BBC iplayer now until Sunday 10th April 2011


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