BS: England World Cup 2018 bid

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: goatfell
Date: 29 Jul 11 - 12:33 PM

Living in the past

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Musket
Date: 29 Jul 11 - 09:26 AM

Ah but goatfell, you forget. It is also in the future. We will win the next world cup. I am as confident as a fan must be, and indeed in most cases, is.

EENNNGGGEEEERRRRLLLLAAAAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: goatfell
Date: 29 Jul 11 - 09:14 AM

I'm glad the England didn't get because you never shut up about 1966. and we the ther countries in Britian hare just fed up with it glad you won the wolrd cup back then but it is in the past.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 29 Jul 11 - 07:10 AM

Sad news today, the son of the great Sir Booby Moore dead.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29072011/58/bobby-moore-son-found-dead.html

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 08 Dec 10 - 05:08 AM

It reminded me of the Eurovision Contest I half expected Graham Norton to comment on it!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arnie
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 05:05 AM

Leadfingers - there are plenty of English footballers in the Premier League - they're the ones sat on the bench!!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Leadfingers
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 08:12 PM

Just a silly thought , but how many players for Premier League Football Clubs are actually English ?

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:09 PM

I seem to to recall Sepp Blatter voicing some surprise at Fabio Capello's appointment, and making efforts to have club football regulated back toward a more local flavour - has anyone heard any of our mainstream football-media address this yet?

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: MikeL2
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 06:47 AM

hi

Now that the dust is settling from the explosion after the result of the World Cup draw many things are becoming much clearer.

1. We were never going to win this nomination. That was clear two years ago. What Blatter says goes at FIFA and Blatter said it " would be difficult for England to win".

2. All the postulating and last minute lobbying was a total failure. Cameron's claim to have influenced 8 votes was a pure pipe-dream.

3 In the Daily Express last week it was claimed that Cameron ran rings round Putin as he "led" the England bid for FIFA votes. Hmmmm....we know different.

4. Instead of being able to strut and pose as the great saviour of England's bid Mr Cameron disappeared from the scene as soon as he knew the result, not even waiting for it to be announced publically.

Seems to me that Putin staying at home while "pissing" himself laughing at our feeble attempts shows who really was the political victor here.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 05:32 PM

That's funny Al. I thought only Blues supporters were scumbags.

Up the Villa

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 05:20 PM

'You can say what you like about Boris.....'

Good! He's a tory! Tories are scumbags to us sensitive decent folk.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 03:53 PM

You can say what you like about Boris, but I really like that bloke.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 03:36 PM

You seen Boris Johnson has refused pay for FIFA's rooms at the Dorchester over the Olympics.

Never thought I'd say this, but good on you mate. If they act like venal crooks, treat 'em like crooks.

If Qatar can get the world cup - it'll be a piece of piss for that load of arab countries to get America to bomb Iran. Money doesn't talk, it swears.

Iran looks pretty ropey to us, but don't you get the feeling that there is (however deranged and tarnished) a version of democracy going on there. And that's what that weird gang of countries have against the place.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 12:47 PM

Blimey after all those slimey FIFA delegates vote against England having the World Cup, Boris Johnson has withdrawn the offer of a free stay in London's exclusive Dorchester hotel for Fifa executives during the 2012 Olympics.

Fuck me, don't those bastards earn enough money themselves to pay for their own hotels.

What is wrong with our country. We are massively in debt and it's citizens are paying the cost and people like Blatter are offered free accomodation.

I think the government should ban all freebies for 2012 and make anybody that want's to attend pay.

grump grump grump.

Blatter is a twatter

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: melodeonboy
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 07:48 PM

"It's like the Eurovision Song Contest :-)"

Yes, only the music's better!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 07:27 PM

Makes sense though, in a way, as an aspiration at least. No other teams, and they'd never lose. Never win either, of course, and the games would be a bit boring...

...................

As for the World Cup, the right way would be, as Kampervan suggested, for FIFA to nominate the region, and invite countries in that region to volunteer to host it. Then it'd be a matter of determining which countries were up to the job, according to criteria openly laid down - and sticking the names of those countries in a hat to determine the actual host.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:57 PM

Indeed Al LOL

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:31 PM

That's your typical Villa fan. Rough types the lot of them.

A rough exterior that masks an even rougher interior.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:19 PM

he he Do I give a fuck :-)

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 05:09 PM

"the only team who will remain in the PL"

So what's going to happen to all the other teams?

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 04:55 PM

LOL and you are from Boston in Lincolnshire.

At least I was born not 3 miles from Villa Park and have remained loyal to the only team who will remain in the PL and have supported them since 1956.

Bluenoses are scumbag to us Villa supporters. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 03:55 PM

Well you should understand Les - I bet you'd shoot someone off the roof to see Villa in the FA cup final - and not give a bugger if the entire team were eskimos in claret and blue sealskins.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 02:35 PM

I can't believe I have been involved with you Al.
Bluesnose, we at Villa hate you Bluesnoses. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 02:17 PM

Well that's it. I've no idea about Birmingham City's composition, but its MY bloody team.

There can be no possible moral justification for the unfortunates I shoot off the roof.

Only bad people support football teams, fancy pigeons and go to folk clubs.

None of us are up to your exacting standards. We don't give a bugger whether its a zulu, an eskimo or even a Welsh person scoring the winning goal or singing the ace song, as long as we get the pigeon off the roof.

Now to you, it would appear to matter. Judging by the number of years and the number of threads on this same subject of the integrity of ones cultural identity - it matters greatly.

I fear in the long run (and indeed in the short run) you are doomed to disappointment in these matters.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,clumper
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 02:14 PM

I've lost all interest in modern global corporate show-biz football.
Last time I cared must have been sometime back in the 1970's.

So I must admit, despite my loathing for nationalism & xenophobia,
on this issue, I'm inclined to agree with WalkaboutsVerse.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 01:29 PM

And like a good soldier, G.S.S., modern passion and tolerance should be raplaced by traditional, Alf Ramsey like, calm and discipline; or in poetry - Tears.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 12:51 PM

"I think football is a bit like that. I would shoot someone off the roof, to see Birmingham City in the cup final." (Alan)...I was never quite that keen, but I used to follow it quite closely - when it was still mostly locals against mostly locals. However, since I no longer do, perhaps you could give us an idea as to how many of the current Birmingham squad learnt their football in the area? And which, if any, of the top clubs still at least tends toward selecting local players.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 12:38 PM

I think walkabout verse should be England s new football manager, he could inspire the team to play better with his poetry.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 10:25 AM

hi

I know that a lot has been written about the the manner in which the FIFA World Cup draw was awarded.

Of course I wanted England to rubit BUT I would have been very sceptical about the procedures if the England " Heavy gang" had managed to persuade the delegates to change their mainds at that late stage.

Surely FIFA had made up their minds as to the best bid in the previous 2 1/2 years that they had been deciding upon the course of action.

Surely if a last minute plea by any Nation had been successful their would have been something wrong in the selection process.

England's overtures should have been made 12 months earlier.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 09:37 AM

Poor WAV! We disappoint you yet again.

Several years ago, i was in a duo and we did this gig at the end of year party of a pigeon fanciers club.

So in the interval I was sat there all bored - for the general talk in the room was of pigeons - a subject i cared little about.

This guy sidles up to me, and commences telling me how much he's in love with his pigeons, how much he paid for them, how he feeds them their favourite food, and when he goes to see them every morning in their little shed - they greet him like a true friend, having about the same level of intelligence (as I was thinking).

I mentioned my encounter to my playing partner - who said - don't you be fooled, i've seen him shoot his little pigeon pals off the roof with an air rifle rather than wait for them to come down - just so he could clock in a better time.

I think football is a bit like that. I would shoot someone off the roof, to see Birmingham City in the cup final.

Pigeon fancying, football, folksinging....its a dirty business, not really for fine sensibilities such as your own. Its called human nature.

have you considered Pure Philosophy?

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 09:03 AM

I was hoping I'd hear more suggesting we go back toward how our club football was not that long ago (mostly locals in MEANINGFUL competition), and working-out how to tackle internationals by ourselves - alas, as I just said, I've been disappointed.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,mauvepink
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 07:36 AM

What I found totally obscene about the whole process is that while England freezes and is under the biggest financial meltdown it has known for decades, they can find the money to protect the Prince and Mr Cameron to swan around Brussels for days while they are shutting day centres for elderly care in most of the cities the world cup would have been held in. I wonder how much the security cost for this escapade and how much the councils paid who were hoping to gain from the bid?

Russia and Qatar have lots of oil too don't they? Or am I being skeptical?

All this said it makes no odds to me as I do not like football. Maybe I am biased but I really do find it obscene when I think what it has cost :(

mp

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arnie
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 07:27 AM

FIFA should repay the money we spent on the bid - £15 million or so. Same goes for the other bidding countries that have held the competition previously. Now the delegates tell us that they intended to award the World Cup to countries where it had never been held before in the interest of promoting football in these parts of the world. Wouldn't it have been nice of FIFA to tell us that before we submitted our bid??? What an absolute waste of time, effort and money.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 07:15 AM

Disappointed by the "we were robbed" attitude I keep hearing, further to my above comment: our club football has become a greedy, meaningless, free-market, foreign farce, whereby "premier league" players might as well swap shirts BEFORE kick-off; and the appointment of Fabio capello was/is a national disgrace.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: banjoman
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 07:11 AM

So England failed to get the world cup in 2018. The real victim here is truth. I dont think that I would have welcomed a world cup final tournament awarded through bribery and lies. Well done to the media for exposing the truth. I was apalled to here one FA guy saying that "The media lost it for us"
Anyway lets be more positive - Liverpool to win the Premier League - no bribes allowed

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 06:23 AM

I did that too, Al. Aaaahhh, happy daze!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 06:22 AM

BTW...we're off to the Arena in Sheffield tonight to see Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds Live, complete with rock band, 46-piece orchestra, Justin Hayward, Chris Thompson, Jason Donovan and Liz McLarnan (the ex-Atomic Kitten).

I checked just now and it was on last night in Glasgow, and will definitely be on at Sheffield tonight. Takes more than a bit of snow to put them guys off (unlike the wimpy, wussy folk-clubs who all seem to have rolled over and died this week). :-) :-) :-)

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan whittle
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 06:20 AM

Ah! You missed a trick there, You should have eaten and drank to excess like me and Les, then you'd be so buggered you couldn't go out to the shed, never mind work.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 06:15 AM

"Never used to bother me then"

It never used to bother us back in the '60s, Arthur, because we were slim, fit, well-britched young men in our 'teens back then, sowing our wild oats and living Life In The Fast Lane!

Now I'm in my '60s, and it takes me all night to do what I used to do all night, I hate bloody snow....especially when there's a day's graft between trudges! :-) :-)

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,alan Whittle
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 04:28 AM

That Guest was me, sorry!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 04:03 AM

That's the great thing about being retired.

You can do whatever you like and bollocks to anybody else. :-)

I can remember walking to work in the snow back in the 60's from Great Barr to the GEC in Witton Birmingham, where I worked at the time, in the snow back in the 60's.
Never used to bother me then.

However, I hate the snow now, because of arthritus etc, daren't even put a foot outside the door, for fear of slipping and breaking bones.
Couldn't even get the car out the drive since Monday morning.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 03:40 AM

'I wish I could sit on my arse watching telly all day, instead of trudging through the snow to work, to earn money'

Luxury....sheer luxury! We used to dream about being able to trudge. We used to battle our way through a blizzard, through frostbite and a nasty hangover and THEN....drive a Vauxhall Viva sideways down the road from Tamworth to Birmingham.

And you get paid for it! You young uns...!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Dec 10 - 03:27 AM

I wish I could sit on my arse watching telly all day, instead of trudging through the snow to work, to earn money to pay taxes to keep other people in luxury sitting on their arses all day watching telly and posting bollocks on here about something they'd deluded themselves into believing was imminent but that was never going to happen because we don't pay big enough bribes and that cocksucker Blatter hates us anyway.

Phew...that feels better! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 06:46 PM

Well the normal day for playing the Wall Game is St Andrew's Day!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 06:17 PM

He misheard, when someone said it was a ball-game, he thought they said wall-game, so he went.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 05:45 PM

Russia 2018!!!

There is a God! Thank you your omniscience!

By the way, what was Cameron doing bothering himself negotiating over the venue for a stupid game - hasn't he got better things to be doing with his time?

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Brian May
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 07:52 AM

Frankly, my dear . . . I don't give a damn.


HOOOORAY !!!

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 07:27 AM

Yes indeed Mr Clumpers - football supplies so many positive role models worldwide.

Don't you just long for the days of a brisk handshake in the goalmouth, fleeting moments of homosexual love in the showers and long woolly socks, held up with elastic.

I believe hockey supplied similar delights in girls schools - which I always felt I would have enjoyed more.

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: GUEST,clumper
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 07:03 AM

more likely they can leave it to the Russian nationalist football hooligan crews who have been dreaming of the day
they can 'meet up' and test themselves against the English thugs they have idolised and modelled themselves upon from afar
for so many years..

Subject: RE: BS: England World Cup 2018 bid
From: Stu
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 06:51 AM

Should be interesting to see how the Qataris react when thousands of drunken football fans rock up and hope for a rowdy street party. I suppose the Russian mafia will sort them out though.