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freda underhill 29 Dec 10 - 04:41 AM
GUEST,erbert 29 Dec 10 - 04:45 AM
GUEST,Steamin' Willie 29 Dec 10 - 12:21 PM
Mrrzy 29 Dec 10 - 02:38 PM
Slag 30 Dec 10 - 01:42 AM
freda underhill 30 Dec 10 - 06:49 AM
GUEST,strad 30 Dec 10 - 08:09 AM
GUEST,Steamin' Willie 30 Dec 10 - 12:55 PM
katlaughing 30 Dec 10 - 01:48 PM
JohnInKansas 31 Dec 10 - 12:12 AM
freda underhill 31 Dec 10 - 04:59 AM
Mick Woods 31 Dec 10 - 05:54 AM
GUEST,erbert 31 Dec 10 - 07:51 AM

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Subject: BS: Einstein's wife
From: freda underhill
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 04:41 AM

Since so many catters are interested in Einstein's work, you may also be interested to know that his first wife Mileva made significant contributions to his work. Interesting reading...

Einstein's wife - a partner in physics


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 04:45 AM

glad a woman mentioned this first..

apparently Einstein was a bit loathsome in his personal relationships..

ooh bitchy gossip..???


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 12:21 PM

Ah, but her grasp of relativity and spacial awareness let her down.. Einstein himself said that women are too logical to make the mental leaps. (HE said it not ME.)

I proved it though.




By noting the angles involved in supermarket car parks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 02:38 PM

Yes, I gather she wrote a lot of his articles but they had to submit them under his name, since a woman couldn't publish in the sciences... glad to see this article, thanks!


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: Slag
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 01:42 AM

Yes, Einstein appeared to have a real love connection with wifey #1 and she did an awful lot of solid ground work in the necessary math and she also served as a sounding board for his ideas. Who really knows how much she contributed to his "genius"? Like so many celebs who hit the big time, he dumps his ever faithful wife. How very disappointing. Then he marries his cousin. Now there was a real case of true love (read: secretary, nurse, keeper). I think I'm going to join NOW now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 06:49 AM

Thanks for checking the article, guys. I posted it on the other Einstein thread, but everyone was too busy discussing relativity and other relavent issues.. :-) I realised it was thread creep and it needed it's own home in the sun. It's very hard to know the truth, but the article is certainly challenging.


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: GUEST,strad
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 08:09 AM

Steamin' Willie - I read your post as "her grasp of reality and spatial awareness....." and understood immediately!


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 12:55 PM

Whoops, typo....

Can't use the excuse of keys close together either! Space was in my mind, (as usual but this time in a tangible way,) and the c key looked so inviting....


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 01:48 PM

freda, thanks for the link. That is really interesting!

I read a really good book earlier this year: Galileo's Daughter which you might find interesting in relation to the above.

Thanks, again,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 12:12 AM

Another popularly discussed heroine who was forced to publish under "some guy's name" should be easy enough to find:

Ada Lovelace - generally credited with being the first computer programmer ever.

When the US government decided to try to make sense of the mishmash of programming languages in use, they created a new programming language and named it ADA in her honor, givening her a bit of well-deserved recognition; but so far as I've heard no papers that she wrote were ever published under her own name.

Around 1989 it was officially required that any new computer system for which 30% or more of the code was new must be written in ADA, which at that time was considered among the few languages with all the features needed for "critical mission control" and provided security features still rare in other languages. Significant progress was made in getting computers to actually work and to talk to each other; but a later directive said "if you're a big business you can use whatever language you prefer," so we're pretty much back to an FBI that doesn't have a working computer sytem, Air Traffic Controllers who can't talk to each other, National Security agencies using nine or ten incompatible systems, and several billions of $$$$ pissed down the sewer pipe with no useful results. (And a few occasional "leaks" that we shouldn't talk too much about?)

Not really what her namesake deserved.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: freda underhill
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 04:59 AM

For me, the knowledge that Einstein's papers were first published under his wife's name is startling. The author of the article notes that after their divorce, he didn't make any other major findings.

thanks, Kat and John, I never knew either that the first computer programmer was a woman. Galileo's daughter again sounds so remarkable. While I'm inspired by this info, my brain was mathematically deprogrammed when I was about 10, and has never recovered.

The information about Galileo's daughter is fascinating - a scholalrly, cloistered religious woman devoted to a man whose scientific exploration challenged everything sthat uphelp her life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: Mick Woods
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 05:54 AM

"I read a really good book earlier this year" I read that over ten years ago


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Subject: RE: BS: Einstein's wife
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:51 AM

... memory's just been jogged re: this interesting BBC movie dramatisation of the private life of Einstein
from a couple years ago..
But can't remember how good it was as entertainment;
and wouldn't have known enough to judge inaccuracies or poetic licence make believe that might enrage the 'experts'.. ???

"Einstein and Eddington"

David Tennant - Arthur Eddington

Andy Serkis - Albert Einstein

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0995036/


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