Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11

Subject: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:05 PM

Thread to discuss the above.

Back shortly with some thoughts

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:15 PM

Well, it's just gone midnight - considering that this is a flagship show which can pull in megastars - what so far?

The drummer with Jools band is tasty - thick texture, snappy beats, good timing. I'd have mic'd for a bit more tone and a bit more beater in the kick, and a wholly different snare sound - a smaller tighter snare with more snare-wire in the pickup.

Bass guitar in the band - er - no. Out of tune and no feel for the ethnic music.

Guitarist - is that a 335? The headstock logo looks slightly wrong. A fat strat or similar would have given him a wider tonal palette - better for the reggae.

Wanda Jackson. Oh dear.

Plan B. Oh very dear.

Bellowhead - a positive embarrassment.

Toots Hibbert - a-sodding-mazing given that he had no proper reggae band to back him. Trust me - one year I made my living as a reggae jock (before I was a lawyer).

Ruby Turner - brilliant. Shows what it's about although Jools himself is a pedestrian boogie pianist.

Kylie - how cruel to put her on just after Ruby.

And if ANYONE thinks they can sing Love Letters after Ketty Lester - think again. Mistake.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Alan Day
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:30 PM

Loosen up Richard
I am enjoying it.Bellowhead did us proud.
Happy New Year to you all !!
Al

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Smedley
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:32 PM

Stealing the show: The Secret Sisters (whose album was one of the best of 2010).

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:33 PM

The Secret Sisters are singing nicely (well, very well if you like country, which I don't).

Oh, and Cee Lo Wossname (who?) has a fine voice if not quite Stevie Wonder or Jackie Wilson, (with tinges of Solomon Burke) but I suspect he ought to have his own band.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:36 PM

Roger Daltrey - oh sad to see the idol's feet of clay. My mate Andy Bright's band (the Chosen Few) do "I'm a Man" so much better.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Smedley
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:39 PM

Cee Lo Green, Richard. A voice to marvel at & hugely successful, which reassures one that genuine talent can still prosper.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:48 PM

Oh dear Richard. Not having a good New Year then.
Having worked with Jools and his band many times for his Radio 2 Show, They are all remarkable musicians, especially Gilson on Drums..
As a session drummer, he can command any fee he wants....and a top guy as well.
So, Richard, Happy New Year, but lighten up a bit.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: The Barden of England
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:50 PM

See my PM's Richard - and I tried phoning to wish a Happy New Year - so - Happy New Year. For me Rumer was fabulous, a wonderful mix of Dusty Springfield and Karen Carpenter. Bellowhead were so much better with 'New York Girls' than the previous song and Cee Lo Green was bloody good. The rest were and are mediocre. However, as always, it's personal taste rather than objective and who wants to be a critic anyway.
To everybody out there in the big wide world I wish you all a Happy New decade.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 07:56 PM

Rather "Who is Jools Holland?"

D

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: The Barden of England
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:05 PM

Don - he used to play with 'Squeeze' who were known for 'Cool for Cats' and 'Up the Junction' amongst other things.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: The Barden of England
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:08 PM

There's only one HENRY DAGG !!!
John Barden

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:11 PM

Well, interesting that he started with a pipe band! Up here in Bonnie Scotland we were watching the usual BBC1 diet of Phil Cunningham, Aly Bain, John McCusker, Jackie Bird (newsreader when she's not presenting Hogmanay programmes). We also had Fiddler's Bid, Catriona Mackay, and various younger folk (couldn't hear the Uillean pipes over the massed fiddles, sound man!) Some nice singing from Siobhan Miller too, and the Edinburgh Hogmanay fireworks were quite superb! (Could see them distantly from oor hoose an a')
However if it's anything like last year, the best hogmanay programme will be the one on BBC ALBA (watch it on BBC iPlayer). Hopefully by next year we'll be able to see it on Freeview!

Lang may yer lum reek, frae a very new grannie! (as of 24th December - not yet been shoved aff a bus!)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:13 PM

Thanks Barden.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:15 PM

Toots Hibbert still great - getting better as the evening wears on.

Moyet getting worse.

Rumer teenage unimpressive angst - shoes for God's sake?

Yes Ralphie, I said I liked the drummer.

And Ruby Turner was GREAT.

Is it true it is recorded on a Tuesday afternoon in October?

John - I was getting my ear bent. No names no packdrill.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:17 PM

PS. The bassist with Plan B has a nice feel.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Smedley
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:28 PM

Recorded, I'm told, the first week of December.

Toots was wonderful, indeed.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 08:33 PM

Ruby Turner's always great. As is BJ Cole. As is Gilson Lavis. Plus Rico from The Specials.

Unsung heroes one and all.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Linda Kelly
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 10:27 PM

I liked Roger Daltry singing Mannish Boy.
Though Alison Moyet was pedestrian.
Wanda should have hung up her mike long ago.
Toots was great and enjoyed Plan B. Loved the Secret Sisters but still cant get my head around Bellowhead!! I do think Hootenany is past its sell by date.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: RamblinStu
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 11:06 PM

Just watched it, fantastic show. Musicians, playing good music, very well and enjoying it.
We can all do that, enjoy music

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 12:10 AM

1 day into the new year and the old grumpy bear claws are out for flesh and blood.

wish I had time and aartiqua.. articquia..articularsey..

ermmm. word power..

to express my very own self important and genuinely completely spot on totally right opinion..

but wife is fizzy wined up for the celebrations and demanding I come to bed soon to..
ermm.. well..

I'll tell you what is wrong with Jools Holland Hootenannay

it's effing Jools Holland !!!

sooner he is replaced by someone good with natural charisma and real comic timing
and empathy for the superior talent & warm personality presence
of some of strategicly potted-plant positioned rent-a-celeb guests..

..errrm.. like Robbie Williams or any one else but Jools Holland..


highlights were secret sisters and rumour..

definite talents to watch for the near future..

Wanda.. ah bless her.. at least we have the old LPs..

Kylie.. we reckon her squeaky voice might mature into wanda's in the next 30 years..

POP QUEEN kylie..nice to see her caught off guard on her hands and knees tidying up and sticking something [maybe lyrics] on the back of the monitors..

she is a human after all.. we liked that moment.. we warmed to her..

Bellowhead.. we played spot the missing members..

most of the our right/their left hand stage seemed to be missing

Jon Boden looked a bit tired and puffy and seemed more subdued and humble than usual..

that was nice .. again, we warmed to that..

still think the bellows and show off jon, even in depleted condition are the best act in UK today..

except for tom jones and robert plant..

wish theyed been on..



etc etc

We really dont like the entire smug Jools BBC TV franchise monopoly

hate all the insincere forced embarisin celeb mates banter..

hate/love all the excruciating public display of minor celeb lovie vain ego power positioning
hierachy elbow jostling face on toward camera shuffling..

could only ever watch this show comletely pissed..

and as for that bloke with the pussy organ..

oops.. reminds me I better get to bed before the wife starts getting violent for new year 'affection'..

Happy new year ya miserable old unforgiving b@stards !!!!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 12:38 AM

oooh.. thats ok.. she's asleep i can carry on here with another bottle of wine for an hour or so
you lucky mudcat mates...

so.. as if any of the acts on the show come here to scrutinise these threads
to monitor our high held opinionising
and learn from our superior wisdom to improve their acts..

..or even reconsider if they should dare be in showbiz at all and so split up immediately
for fear of our vengeful wrath..


yeah right..

at 6.825 minutes into the post new year part of the show
I truly believe the bass player missed 2 complete beats and repositioned
his left leg as if HE dare to fart on the BBC on our hallowed new year celebration .
He should be immediately sacked and replaced forthwith. and asunder .. etc.. and publicly hung.. etc.. etc..

thus spaketh mudcat for we truly are almighty influential c@nts..

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 03:28 AM

I listened to a folk-lite programme on Radio 3. It was quite nice but no Donald Where's Your Troosers.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: evansakes
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 03:45 AM

The bloke with the pussy organ was funny for about the first two and a half seconds.

Felines...nothing more than felines.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 03:56 AM

"I'll tell you what is wrong with Jools Holland Hootenannay

it's effing Jools Holland !!!"

especially when he joins in!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Darowyn
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 04:54 AM

Well I liked it. There was nobody I saw on the show that I did not end up feeling more positive about. I'd heard Plan B's second song before, and was not impressed, but I liked the wide range of styles they cover, and their vocalist has a strange but effective sound. Secret Sisters, though a bit dirgy, did a great job on "Walking After Midnight", and BJ Cole's PSG was a delightfully classic accompaniment. Bellowhead were rowdy and fun. I thought it was great to see Kylie (I've never had any time for her music) just performing on her own, working the audience, without the daft dancers. It's always good to see somebody who knows they are on top of their game. Reggae Legends... brilliant! Wanda Jackson, mostly OK. You can remember how she was, all those many years ago. I though Roger Daltrey was amazing- and what a completely unexpected song choice.
C Lo Green and Rumer, I loved. I'm absolutely delighted that there are singers now who take inspiration from the great soul singers. About time too, I say.
All in all, even Jools Holland was ok. Probably because he had not had a bunch of sulky , technically incompetent youths fobbed off on him with the instruction to treat them as "the next big thing".
I enjoyed it.
Somebody needs a remedy for anhedonia!
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Alan Day
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 05:12 AM

Taste is a strange thing,here you are mostly running down Jools, who has put together one of the best big bands ever,His accompaniment to all the artists he played for was superb, especially the one with Kylie sitting on the piano.
It would be nice if those people who seek to do critiques based their writing on fault finding rather than an overall view of what was a live performance. Artists knocking their B****cks off to try and give us a good evenings viewing.
Well done !! I shall watch it again next year as usual.
Al

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Kampervan
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 05:45 AM

Why oh why is there no alternative to the endless self-indulgence of Jools Holland.

The other channels just seem to give up and leave anyone who fancies a little light entertainment with a choice of two - Jools Holland or switch off.

Through the mists of time even Andy Stewart is taking on a rosy hue.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,G Man
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 06:24 AM

How come Jools kept going on about a New Decade. It's not a bloody new decade. Was the Millennium night 31 December 2000 or was it 31 December 1999? Huh? Were the "nineties" a decade?

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 06:41 AM

I rarely listen to the annual Jools Holland Hootenanny any more. I'm not keen on the schmoozing and false jollity - it is, after all, recorded in late autumn - and, though I've seen the JH orchestra live, I'm somehow not moved by them.

It's odd. JH has, as Alan has said, above, put together a very good band with excellent musicians, but - and I can't really say why - neither his own piano playing nor his band stuff gets me rocking.

Some months ago, I was at a village hall in Shropshire, where the main act for the evening was a pianist & singer called Mike Sanchez. I'd seen him a year or two before, playing piano for Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings and was very impressed. He had his own small group - drums, bass, piano, guitar and three horns - at the village hall gig, and blew the place apart. He had huge energy, power, piano and vocal talent and charisma. The place was absolutely rocking - which is what I don't get, somehow, from Jools Holland's outfit. Just a personal opinion.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Hamish
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 06:45 AM

Tired old format, tired old set... but Bellowhead, Plan B, Ruby and Toots were all mega.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 07:08 AM

Oliver Twist was superb on ITV!!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 07:27 AM

Jools already up on Dime.

Subject: BBC ALBA celebrations
From: GUEST,Tim
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 07:39 AM

Thanks for the heads up to watch the Hogmanay ceilidh from South Uist on BBC Alba - must remember to do it next year if I'm reduced to the TV ! (rathering than watching the pitiful offerings from elsewhere - though BBC Scotland didn't do too badly).

I particularly hope that the singing weathergirl at 0:54 makes it to Youtube so she can get a bigger audience.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: autoharpbob
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 07:41 AM

Loved Secret Sisters, new to me but will be looking out for them. Rumer was good too. Bellowhead were Bellowhead - you either love them or you don't. Has Roger Daltrey's voice dropped a lot? Good eclectic mix, held together with some more or less witty comments from the allegedly comedic audience.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: theleveller
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 08:35 AM

Bellowhead were brilliant. Wasn't that James Delarre playing fiddle?

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Brakn
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 08:36 AM

I watched Father Ted instead.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 09:35 AM

Surely having Kylie on this show totally invalidates it as a 'music' show! Get a grip Jools!!!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Treacle Bolly
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 09:41 AM

Was switching between Jools, BBC Scotland and Alba. Who is this Lexy person on Alba ? Some kind of Gaelic Danny La Rue ?

Rumer always reminds me of Catherine Howe (purely the tone of the voice).

Impressed by Siobhan Miller... very !

Did anyone notice the Vampire Weekend song which started with "A holiday, a holiday, and the first one of the year" ??

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 09:45 AM

I can't top Roger Daltrey's critique..."Bit of a dry old do innit mate?". That's the whole problem, we need artistes who are as inebriated as their audience.

Anyway, I enjoyed it, especially the Dam Busters March played on the kittens.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 09:55 AM

Vampire Weekends song 'Holiday' starts 'A holiday, a holiday, and the best one of the year' and has certainly been used on an advert recently although I can't remember what for.
I only saw the post midnight bit of the show but danced around the living room to Bellowhead with Geoff and the twins. We enjoyed it!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:04 AM

I've mentioned above those who struck me one way or another. Vampire Weekend were somewhat less than average.

I remember a couple of years back - it might have been a "Later" rather than a "Hootenannay" - Jools played guitar - a 12-bar-ish thing, and he wasn't bad, but that let out of the cage another pianist who had been I think playing second piano in the Jools band - and that guy was monstrous: totally better than Jools - in the brilliant class. He had the bounce in the boogie.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:13 AM

Rather than watch English copying American pop and rock, I enjoyed Scots performing, mostly, Scottish culture on BBC Scotland and BBC Alba.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:34 AM

I'm sure that Toots Hibbert, Kylie Minogue and Wanda Jackson will be fascinated to know that the cognoscenti think them English.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: tritoneman
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:50 AM

I watched Father Ted instead.


Good choice Brakn. I was playing a gig last night but had I not been I would have been doing the same!!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Alan Day
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 11:28 AM

Richard ,it may have been his Brother, he has appeared with him before.
Al

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 12:37 PM

Definitely a Gibson guitar - same headstock as on my LP Junior. As to whether it's a 335 I don't know. There have been a lot of variations over the years.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: melodeonboy
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 01:35 PM

I watched it on playback, so I was able to fast forward the really grotty bits.

Overall, and given that it's regarded as mainstream programming, I think there was a fair variety of stuff, and the quality overall was reasonable. But I wish he'd leave out the bloody celebrity waffle.

And we did have the rare and delightful sight of someone playing a melodeon on a mainstream music programme! :) Mustn't grumble!

(Nice to see an appearance from B.J. Cole as well!)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 01:45 PM

B.J., Toots, Wanda...Who?!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 03:40 PM

With respect of another thread we enjoyed Vampire Weekend who we caught flicking channels during Father Ted ad-breaks; the Secret Sisters were pretty & cool and Cee Lo Green sang like an angel. Nice to see Rico - and Kylie, bless 'er, though I have to agree with Richard's OP on Wanda Jackson.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 09:50 PM

Don't watch it anymore as don't have a tv - but - an interesting comment upthread: '... one of the best big bands ever?' All a matter of opinion but: the best big bands surely are in the league of Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Woody Herman etc - not a bunch of admittedly talented musos doing a gig playing watered down r and b, fronted by a remarkably silly little man whose smugness fits so well into the unhip and reactionary BBC. I've seen Holland's band live - pub stuff really and nothing wrong with that - but I've also seen Duke and Basie way back. Different league. On a contemporary note - I saw Marshall Allen fronting the Sun Ra Arkestra some months back at the Cafe Oto in Dalston and was blown away - light years ahead of Little Jools and an amazing night. Darcy James Argue's big band was in town from New York a few weeks ago at the same venue - couldn't make it due to illness but I know their music well. People creating contemporary sounds based on a strong tradition, vibrant and sharp. Carla Bley, plenty more - Jools's band really are not up there with these guys. But that's my opinion...

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 05:45 AM

A few months back I saw Jerry Dammers' Spatial AKA Orchestra on Jools Holland and was suitably depressed by their vapid rendition of - I think it was Where Pathways Meet from Lanquidity. We live in the age of increasingly slick muso blandness, but of late I feel too old to work up much indignation over it (especially on a folk forum where such slickness is too often embraced as musicianship) though I often wonder if people can hear the difference between the real and the spurious - or even if it matters.

Time for a New Year's resolution or two maybe?

S O'P - (reaching once more for his 28-disk set of Sun Ra's 1980-81 residency at the Detroit Jazz Centre to remind him that once upon time such music actually happened on Planet Earth...)

Or even...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4XKHkzDggk&feature=related

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,dave clarke
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 08:11 AM

Well done to C LO Green for taking on a Jackie Wilson song. It is a reflection of how great the totally underestimated JW was, as rarely do you see anyone cover his songs because vocally he was head and shoulders above ANY of the greats. Simply the best liver performer and singer of all time.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Pulseroom
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 08:34 AM

Hmmmm! I enjoyed the whole show, it doesn't take much for me but Cee Lo Green "Forget You" was outstanding. I stayed up while 3am to watch top of the pops from the 80s that followed Jules, now that was the start to 2011 I needed. Happy New Year everyone.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: theleveller
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 09:06 AM

What's interesting is that different people enjoyed different acts - so there does appear to have been something for almost everyone. For me, Bellowhead were the high point, Secret Sisters and Wanda the (very) low point and everyone else ranging in between. It's about the only time of year when I watch Jools but, sad person that I am, I do actually look forward to it on New Year's Eve.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 09:41 AM

Wilson's were supposed to be appearing but it couldn't be arranged in time

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 10:15 AM

I was so disappointed the programme was not on a commercial channel. The "ads" would have been far more entertaining but at least it gave us something to laugh at for the start of the New Year.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 10:27 AM

Not sure if the questions about missing members have been answered - Paul Sartin and Sam Sweeney were touring with other projects when the programme was recorded. Yes, James Delarre was on fiddle. I think the other fiddler was Peter Tickell. Don't know who to oboist was.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 12:14 PM

@theleveller
I agree (after watching it on replay) that it was a nice eclectic mix (rather like my ipod playlist).

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:11 PM

Ceilidh Minogue might work?

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Van
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:29 PM

Surely the programme is designed to cater for a wide variety of tastes and give people a bit of pleasure. As such it does well. No single style of music, a bit of what you like, a bit of what I like. It's New Year's Eve we've all had a few - are we really so picky? If so change channels or have a few more drinks.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: HWinWindies
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 05:28 PM

Cant get it in BVI. BBC America had what seemed like 24 hours of Dr Who, maybe it will be on Ovation in April or May or next year.
Ref him on the piano being outplayed by a band member...
reminds me of the John Lennon and Paul McCartney were asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world, and are supposed to have replied that he was not the best drummer in the Beatles.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: puck
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 09:58 AM

My mind has been working overtime. I wondered where the remainder of Bellowhead were. The sound was most uncommonly thin. I've been to several of their concerts and they have all been absolutely 'blinding'!! The highlight of the Hootenanny for me was going to be their performance. The first song went down very poorly, and the second not much better! Jon Boden seemed a little 'miffed' with Jools, disappearing to the back of the stage at the end of both numbers, and not entering into any post performance chat, plus they only had two numbers. Then, at the end of the show none of Bellowhead were included in the grand finale song, though most of the others were!!!!!
It got me to wonder if there had been a double booking, or that part of the band were booked to perform in one their other folk guises; then I thought possibly the BEEB were not prepared to fork out the fee for the full line-up; or that there had been a massive fracture within the band itself. Was there a disagreement over the fact that all the other guests had several spots and Bellowhead just two?Possibly,and most likely, some of the band had flu!
Conspiracy theories aside, I can't see Bellowhead deliberately scuppering their performance at such a high profile event, with the national exposure it offers, over anything as trivial as money or billing issues!!!   Any thoughts?? Care to comment Jon??
P

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 10:37 AM

i think perhaps bellowhead may be a bit off the mainstream interest.i,ve not heard them before.good but not my cup of tea.
roger daltry was though;not as fiery as a who song but i thought a good vocal and loved the tonque in cheek ref to "my generation"!.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 02:40 PM

hi

I thought that this was the first time that JH Hootenannay had been recorded. I thoght all the previous ones had gone out live ??

Certainly I felt that this year's was very low par.

Wanda jackson......oh dear !!!!!

Rumer.....very promising

Alison Moyat.....seems to have lost her voice with all her weight

Bellowhead.....not my cup of tea....or champagne either.

There did not appear to be any atmosphere whatso-ever.

So I switched to BBC Scotland. I'll be there from the start next year.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 03:18 PM

My mrs immediately got the Rumer CD as soon as the shops reopened for the new year.

She's played it all at least 6 times yesterday & today..

Really is top class modern retro 'easy listening', even I'm not getting sick of it yet..

If you enjoy the best of 1960's female pop voices
and Karen Carpenter & KD lang..

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Alan Day
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 03:31 PM

Reading all the comments on a programme of mixed music that is designed for most tastes,the majority of it performed well,it is no wonder that the BBC get a confused picture of what everyone requires as far as music programmes are concerned.
Al
I enjoyed the film "Singing in the rain" , but shame about all the rain,dancing, music. sound quality.
All that splashing about,just not on chaps. Bring on the Sunshine !!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 07:14 PM

2 reasons why I didn't watch BBC One England for seeing in the New Year: Jools Holland + pre-recorded.

Watched BBC One Scotland live on Red Button, Hogmanay is what the Scots do well. Then BBC Alba Ceilidh na Bliadhn' Uire 2010 (Hogmanay Ceilidh 2010) from iPlayer.

JH's presentation skills have always annoyed me so I watch any show he does from iPlayer or record to fast forward to the acts I want to see. Seems to me BBC One England ie London centric need to make the decision on whether real Hogmanay should be shown from BBC Scotland on BBC One & alternative new year musical fluff be offered elsewhere on Two or Four.

New Year greetings to all on here, may the music you like flow bountiously in 2011 and delight your ears.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 07:21 PM

I agree with EnglishFolkfan. New Year is a Scottish festival so should be celebrated with Scottish programs, while England should concentrate on their traditional Christmas celebrations. Next thing we'll be getting Jool's St Patrick's Day Ceili!

PS: I wouldn't object to a BBC4 documentary on New Year traditions in Scotland (Or Old Yule celebrations in the Shetlands)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 08:08 AM

"Alison Moyat.....seems to have lost her voice with all her weight"

Then you obviously didn't have the pleasure of being entertained by her at Sheffield City Hall about a year ago, as I did, Mike.

Breathtakingly powerful, astonishingly emotional, staggeringly soulful - her performance was spellbinding. One of the finest singers I've ever had the privilege to hear 'live', and one of only three who have reduced me to tears (the other two being Paul Carrack and the wonderful Nina Simone).

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 10:04 AM

One of the finest singers I've ever had the privilege to hear 'live'

Why do you need to put inverteted commas around the word live?

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 10:31 AM

"inverteted"

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Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:06 AM

"One of the finest singers I've ever had the privilege to hear 'live'"

I sometimes put inverted (note the correct spelling please) commas around the words "smart-arse" too. With or without, a smart-arse is still a smart-arse.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:17 AM

hi bwm
<<"From: Backwoodsman - PM
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 08:08 AM

Then you obviously didn't have the pleasure of being entertained by her at Sheffield City Hall about a year ago, as I did, Mike.">>

No I didn't get to see Alison at Sheffield; in fact I have seen her for some time. She is a favourite of both my wife and I with her beautifully honed voice and wonderful phrasing. But on Jules Holland we just saw her sing the firdst song and by her standards it was very poor.
We felt the whole programme lacked something this year so we went over to BBC Scotland...and we were pleased that we did.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:31 AM

"I sometimes put inverted (note the correct spelling please) commas around the words "smart-arse" too. With or without, a smart-arse is still a smart-arse."


"LOL!"

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:56 AM

She was fabulous, Mike. I didn't see her on 'Hootenanny', but I have it recorded, so I'll take a peek. I'm sorry if Alison's performance wasn't up to scratch - it's a shame because she is a real class act, a Singer (the capital 'S' is deliberate!) who truly lives up to the title.

Leveller, I was laughing as I typed it too! :-)
There are some wazzocks around, aren't there? :-)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,th
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:57 AM

Current muso joke,

Q. What has got 12 horns, 20 c*cks but no b*ll*cks?

A. The Jools Holland Rhythm and Blues Orchestra.

ITHANGYEW!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 12:11 PM

ermm.. you omitted

"and 1 c*nt"...?????

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: melodeonboy
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:17 PM

That's rather unfair and the language is somewhat unsuitable for a music forum!

(But I can't deny that it made me giggle!)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Old Vermin
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:29 PM

Noticeable lack of Paul Sartin in Bellowhead. We wondered about 'flu or other seasonal ailment. Looking forward to Belshazzars Feast gig in Guildford on Friday.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Old Vermin
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:32 PM

You mean it's *not* live! I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 06:07 AM

We thought the young lady deputising for Paul Sartin did a rather wonderful job....and added some visual appeal also!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 07:21 AM

Just caught Secret Sisters on you tube. Good to see youngsters working in the high lonesome idiom. Daughters of Muscle Shoals we salute you.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Stephen W
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 07:32 AM

Paul Sartin and Sam Sweeney with both gigging with Belshazzar's Feast and Kerfuffle on the night of the recording. Hence the need for deps in Bellowhead.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 07:50 AM

Richard I agree with you about Toots, it was great to see him at last. I have seen many of the others like Prince Buster, Desmond Dekker, The Ethiopians, Skatalites etc. along with Rico and have attempted to try to get to see Toots many times without success, in the past the band has cancelled gigs in Bristol many times so it was a treat for me to see him at last. It was a shame about the backing band however not as tight as a Reggae band should be. But if the audience there were half sozzled then perhaps they didn't notice.

I have a sampler CD with a track from Bellowhead which I was already quite impressed with and was keen to hear more from them but the problem there is that as with Toots it is a band for letting your hair down to in a club or hall rather than watching from a chair with a glass in hand.

Kylie was wheeled out again for her annual nasal whine. Alison I was a little bit disappointed with but I gave her the benefit of the doubt thinking that she might have been getting over a cold or flu, it is possible at this time of year. Wanda Jackson, was she from the 50s? It would be interesting to find some material from back when she was younger if any exists. I would imagine she once had a voice similar to Brenda Lee back then but not as successful? Rumer sounded promising but would like to hear a bit more of her in the future.

The show itself is getting pretty samey as the years go by. It's as if they have been recorded back to back sometimes, although this time we were spared Al Murray sat in the audience constantly repeating 'Hootenannay' over and over again two years in a row!

Roger Daltry, no comment. Vampire weekend zzzzzzz........

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,anoy
Date: 06 Jan 11 - 05:12 AM

Kylie was great, charming and lovely as ever.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: melodeonboy
Date: 06 Jan 11 - 10:05 AM

No wonder you're called "anoy"!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 06 Jan 11 - 10:08 AM

I recorded the show, but haven't watched it yet. This of course gives me the huge advantage of whizzing through the celebrity schmoozing and predictions. It'll be interesting to compare and contrast my opinions with those voiced above...

Of course the show has always been pre-recorded, and a few years back there was even a missed edit, causing a (non-musical) sequence to be repeated.

Jools ('There's never been a song written that wouldn't benefit from a bit of boogie-woogie piano')Holland gets up my nose too, but I can forgive him that for the huge range of interesting music he's brought to our screens over the years.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: mikesamwild
Date: 08 Jan 11 - 05:31 AM

The man is a great enthusiast and has a wide love of all sorts of genres , long may he boogy

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 07:12 AM

I haven't seen the programme but I agree Ruby Tuner is the highlight of any JH concert. We've seen him most years recently at outdoor concerts (MUCH too loud indoors)and regret Ruby tends only to come on in a fake "encore" set at the end. His other singers, Louise Marshall and Sam (daughter of Joe) Brown, are excellent. Usually too much of JH singing and little light & shade in his playing (unlike UK's other Boogie Woogie star Ben Waters). Gilson Lavis has been with JH since their duo days and is always celebrated by the billing "featuring". Mark Flanagan (gtr) and Chris Holland (keys) often open the concerts with their own groups but usually underwhelm.

Just my twopennorth.

RtS