Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Mar 00 - 11:03 AM

I like the old western tune

Get a L-O-N-G little doggie

A short one won't do

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 04:39 AM

But the songbook cost me ten bucks (which is a steal). I took my honey to the State Fair yesterday, and it cost me forty. Sure was nice to see the fireworks from the Ferris wheel, though.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 04:30 AM

Well, Joe, they might be cuddlier in bed.*g*

This book has been rearranged and "edited for a general audience", i.e. "the best lines and verses of many of the most popular songs were woven together in composite", rather than fill it with several variants "as had become the custom in academia".

It includes "not only the songs created in cow camps and otehr imported and adapted....but also the sung poetry of the West."

Each chapter is a "different family of western songs":

Up the Trail
The Round-Up
Dodge City
Campfire and Bunkhouse
Sonofagun
& Way out West

So...none of them are in the same order as yours. There are no tunes for the ones you listed and the following are not even in this version:

Bill Peters, the Stage Driver
Hard Times (like you need that tune!)
Cole Younger
Mississippi Girls
The Old Man Under the Hill
Jerry, Go Ile That Car (I love Art's rendition!)

I hope that helps. BTW, Bookfinder had a few versions, different dates and I think one or two of this one, I just searched under Lomax, nothing else.

katwhoissofterthanasongbook!

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 04:12 AM

OK, Kat, here's an example: there's a tune for "The Cowboy," pp. 96-99, but no tune again until "Fuller and Warren" comes on page 126. The songs in between without tunes are:

Bill Peters, the Stage Driver
Hard Times (and that's such a good song)
Cole Younger
Mississippi Girls
The Old Man Under the Hill
Jerry, Go Ile That Car (an Art Thieme hit, right?)
John Garner's Trail Herd
The Old Scout's lament
The Lone Buffalo Hunter
The Crooked Trail to Holbrook
Only a Cowboy

I have tunes to many of these in other books, but I was wondering if the tunes to any of these have been added to the Lomax book. For that matter, are the songs in your book in the same order, and have any been added? Should I be satisfied with the gem I've got, or should I also lust for a later edition?
Should I try lusting after women instead of songbooks?

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 03:57 AM

It's the same book, Joe, with a new intro by Alan Lomax. All copyrighted from 1910 to 1986 by Macmillan Pub. It has a lot of the tunes; with the index it is 431 pages, without it 428 and they start on the official page 3 (after the intro etc.). The ISBN # is 0-02-061260-5.

Let me know if you need anymore info or can't get it. Are you looking for any specific tune right now?

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 03:48 AM

Kat - the 1986 edition you have - does it have tunes for most songs? Who's the publisher? How many pages? My book, published by Sturgis & Walton in 1916, has 414 rather small pages, and I understand the later editions have 431. Amazon has one listed with 326 pages, for $75 (but not currently available).
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 03:25 AM

Ha that's what I get for gloating.....forgot to mention WW and I both, since we live in the same town, are just a few minutes from where the original Goose Egg ranch was, made famous in the Virginian. That area sw of town is still refered to as the Goose Egg there is a restaurant of the same name which has been out there for upteen years.

A couple of times, when I was really little, mom and dad played for dances at the Roundup Club, also west of town. I remember falling asleep on the benches and dreaming about how all the babies were switched by the cowboys in that novel. I always had a bit of an uneasy feeling at that when I slept during the late night dances.

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 03:21 AM

Na, na, na,na, na! Beatcha by a minute, SD!*BG*

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: Sourdough
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 03:19 AM

Have you noticed how the name "Owen Wister" keeps coming up these days?

Sourdough

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: Sourdough
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 03:15 AM

Joe,

TR was referring to Owen Wister, author of "The Virginian".

Sourdough

Subject: RE: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 03:14 AM

Hi, Joe, looking in my 1986 reissue of the same, I am sure it was "Owen Wister" he refered to, author of the Virginian.

kat

Subject: Lomax - Cowboy Songs, 1910
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Sep 99 - 02:57 AM

I just got a copy of Cowboy Songs, by John A. Lomax. The book was published in 1910, but I got the 1916 edition. It's a great collection of songs - but it has lyrics only for most of the songs. I understand that the book was reissued in the 1930's with tunes to most of the songs.
The book begins with a handritten letter from Theodore Roosevelt, dated August 28, 1910:

Dear Mr. Lomax,
You have done a work emphatically worth doing and one which should appeal to the people of all our country, but particularly to the poeple of the west and southwest. Your subject is not only exceedingly interesting to the student of literature, but also to the student of the general history of the west. There is something very curious in the reproduction here on this new continent of essentially the conditions of ballad-growth which obtained in medieval England; including, by the way, sympathy for the outlaw, Jesse James, taking the place of Robin Hood. Under modern conditions, however, the native ballad is speedily killed by competition with the music hall songs; the cowboys becoming ashamed to sing the crude homespun ballads in view of what (Owen Winter???) calls the "ill-smelling saloon cleverness" of the far less interesting compositions of the music hall singers. It is threfore a work of real importance to preserve permanently this unwritten ballad literature of the back country and the frontier.
With all good wishes, I am
very truly yours,
Theodore Roosevelt

(I had to guess at some of the words - Teddy's penmanship was a little sloppy)
-Joe Offer-

Subject: Favourite Cowboy Songs-Second Edition
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Sep 99 - 11:30 PM

Another long one taking forever to load, back there, so...here we are.

Thanks to Bert, for calling my granddad's poem, Home Range, a song on last night's broadcast of Mudcat Radio. My dad will be pleased and granddad would've been happy to've had it noticed.

I've a tape of Dad reading Granddad's cowboy poems. After listening last night, I think I will send a copy to Max; if he likes them maybe he'll play one or two. When Dad gets his next cowboy songs tape done, I'll send it along, too.

Grab leather, boyz!

katlaughing