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Lyr Req: Harry Trewin

GUEST,Thomas Hine 10 Jan 11 - 06:30 AM
GUEST,Thomas Hine 10 Jan 11 - 09:13 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Harry Trewin
From: GUEST,Thomas Hine
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 06:30 AM

Hello - I am doing some research for a local book about Chagford, Dartmoor and came across this rhyme from Chagford -

Old Harry Trewin
Had no brutches to wear,
So he stawl a ram's skin
Vur to make en a pair ;
Wi the woolly zide out
And the fleshy zide in,
They sticked pretty tight
To old Harry Trewin.

and this longer version from Moretonhampstead found in the Transactions of the Devonshire association-

Harry Trewin was a Devon man born.
His head was bald and his chin was shorn.
He wear'd a hat made a' rabbit's skin,
Wi' the skinny side out and the woolly side in.
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin

Harry Trewin he'd no burches to wear,
Zo he staul'd a ram's skin vor to make a new pair,
The sheeny zide out and the whoolly side in
"Tis a fine pair o' burches" said Harry Trewin.
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin

Harry Trewin he'd no butes to putt on,
But two calves hide wi' the hair all gone.
They was split to the zide and the water rinn'd in,
"'tis wet to my veet," said Harry Trewin.
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin

Harry Trewin he'd no watch to putt on,
Zo he scoop'd out a turmet and made hiszel one.
He catch'd a cricket and putt'n within,
"'tis a rare old ticker," said Harry Trewin
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin

Harry Trewin he's a-huntin' gone,
A zaddle o' sai-urchins' skins he putt one.
The sai-urchins' prickles was sharp as a pin,
"I've a-got a zore sait," said Harry Trewin.
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin

Harry Trewin he's a-huntin' gone,
A bridle o' mouze-tails he put on.
The bridle brauk'd and the 'oss rinn'd away,
"'Tis a darn'd rotten bridle," said Harry to-day
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin

Th' old Harry's darter her zot 'pon the stairs,
"Oh, Father!" her said, "I be wonderful fair."
The stairs they brawk'd, and the maid vall'd in,
"You'm fair enough now," said Harry Trewin.
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin

Harry Trewin, his wive and her mauther,
They all vall'd into the vire together.
"O dear!" said the top one, "I've got a hot skin,"
"'tis hotter down under," said Harry Trewin
        Brew, screw, rivet the tin
        O, a rare old chap was Harry Trewin


Does anyone know anything about it? (Music, alternative versions, who Harry Trewin was, similar songs etc.)

The Chagford version dates to about 1900 and the Moreton version to 1934.

Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Harry Trewin
From: GUEST,Thomas Hine
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 09:13 AM

I got this reply from the Devon Traditions coordinator at the wren trust, very useful -

Dear Thomas,

This appears to be the song Tammy-A-Lynn or Bryan-A-Lynn (Roud number 294). The version as you write it below is not in the collection, but there are a good few versions of the song.

Usually the first line goes "Tammy-a-Lynn was a Dutchman born", although from that point it differs (and as you can see, the version you have found has been localised to a greater degree). It was collected in Halcombe Burnell and Lewdown. These versions collected in Devon by Baring-Gould are from around 1890 and have 6 verses. I've taken a clipping of one version and attached it to this email for you to see.

There is also a cutting from a newspaper relating to the song, under the title "Arts and Crafts on Dartomoor in 1837", describing it as a song sung by children when wool gathering. This goes:

Old harry Trewin, No breeches to wear
He stole a ram's skin, to make a new pair
The Skinny side out, and the wooly side in
And thus doth go old Harry Trewin.

You can see the search for all songs with that Roud number here -

http://library.efdss.org/cgi-bin/query.cgi?index_roud=on&cross=off&type=Song&access=off&op_9=or&field_9=&op_12=or&field_12=&op_13=or&field_13=&op_14=or&field_14=&op_15=or&field_15=&op_47=or&field_47=&op_16=or&field_16=&op_0=or&field_0=&op_17=or&field_17=&op_10=or&field_10=&op_11=or&field_11=&op_18=or&field_18=&op_19=or&field_19=&op_20=or&field_20=&op_21=or&field_21=&op_22=or&field_22=&op_23=or&field_23=&op_24=or&field_24=&op_5=or&field_5=&op_25=or&field_25=&op_26=or&field_26=&fieldshow=single&op=or&query=294&field=20&output=Record&length=5&submit=Submit+query


I hope that's helpful, and if you need any further clarification, please don't hesitate to get in touch,

Kind regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Harry Trewin
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 10:28 AM

Found this on 'Cantaria' Folk Song site... hope it helps.    Can listen to a version of it... or part of anyway....... I believe he was also sung about as Tommy-a-Lynn
Best wishes, Mike


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Harry Trewin
From: GUEST,Thomas Hine
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 10:50 AM

Thanks - Brilliant!

Amazing how many versions there are - that Roud index had about 128 different versions, from all over England and Ireland, and in Scotland, the USA and Canada!

No other Harry Trewins outside Dartmoor though - he is our Bryan O'Linn.

I loved the tune with your link - it works well with the Dartmoor version.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Harry Trewin
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 11 Jan 11 - 02:07 AM

Pleased to be of assistance. Best wishes, mike.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Harry Trewin
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 14 Jan 11 - 10:35 PM

From The Annotated Mother Goose: Nursery Rhymes Old and New by William Stuart Baring-Gould and Ceil Baring-Gould (Bramhall House, 1962), page 149:

"Tom Bolin" is known by many names: Tom a Lin and Tommy Lin and Tommy o'Lin and Tom o' the Lin and even Bryan o'Lin and Harry Trewin and Bryan O'Flynn. One and all, they, or he, is the hero of a Scots ballad of which one verse goes:

Tommy o'Lin, and his wife, and his wife's mother,
They all went over a bridge together:
The bridge broke down, and they all tumbled in,
What a precious concern, quoth Tommy o'Lin.


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