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Songs for teaching integrity

Stringsinger 12 Jun 11 - 03:05 PM
GUEST,Doug Saum 12 Jun 11 - 02:23 PM
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Jack Campin 11 Jun 11 - 06:51 PM
MorwenEdhelwen1 11 Jun 11 - 06:28 PM
the lemonade lady 15 Feb 11 - 07:28 PM
peregrina 26 Jan 11 - 04:52 PM
Artful Codger 26 Jan 11 - 04:51 PM
MGM·Lion 26 Jan 11 - 02:10 PM
Fred McCormick 26 Jan 11 - 11:58 AM
Fred McCormick 26 Jan 11 - 11:51 AM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 26 Jan 11 - 11:27 AM
maeve 25 Jan 11 - 08:09 PM
Leadfingers 25 Jan 11 - 08:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: Stringsinger
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 03:05 PM

Integrity is a big word. There's artistic integrity that has to do with the way a song is concocted. Integration into a musical show is one way. Songs of humanitarian issues, another. Jazz integrity is another. A teaching moment in a song can sometimes become didactic or phony. Preachy songs should be avoided because young people can spot them a mile away.   Put songs into continuity with historical events that are of a teaching moment nature.

I think as a songwriter, Woody Guthrie had integrity. I sense a kind of integrity with Steve Earle when he doesn't get off onto this Townes Van Zandt thing.

For me, I would avoid songs that are religious, bordering on preachy, narrow in their view and application, but that's me.

Here's some:

"Black Water" by Jean Ritchie about strip mining.
"Ludlow Massacre" about the tragedy of the history of unions.
"Last Night I Had the Strangest Dream"..Ed McCurdy's ironic comment on the futility of war
"Talking Atomic Blues" by Verne Partlow, a satirical look at the atomic and now nuclear industry
Most all of the songs by Tom Lehrer and Tom Paxton...highly integrative people with an important teaching device....humor.
"Strange Fruit" about the ugliness of race prejudice
"We Shall Overcome" because of the history of the Civil Rights movement.

Any songs that depict social history and comment on it.

"Inch By Inch" ....David Mallet's "hit" about the environment.
Woody Guthries Dustbowl ballads depicting the plight of the Dust Bowl Refugees

Songs in different languages that have a social message.

"Follow the Drinking Gourd" about slavery in the U.S.

Oddly enough, 5 to 11 year olds get these songs. I know because i have sung them for these ages and they are responsive if you explain them right.

Too many people write off the intelligence of younger children in their ability to grasp complicated subjects.

Oh yes, "It Could Be A Wonderful World"...Hy Zaret and ? "Little songs on Big Subjects" is the name of the compilation, I think.

"Two Brothers" and "The Blue and the Gray" to explain the tragedy of the American Civil War.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: GUEST,Doug Saum
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 02:23 PM

Is there a difference between "social responsibility" and "integrity" (from Latin "integras"/wholeness)? I suggest Jimmy Dean's "Big John" as an example of a song that bridges both concepts. DS


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 11:10 PM

Robert Burns "A Man's a Man For A' That" Knew it would happen!


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 11:08 PM

"We Shall Not Be Moved". Integrity defined.
"Follow The Gleam", if you know it.
There's another one I thought of and promptly forgot. It will come to me as soon as I click on the icon.

Oh, if the Johnny Appleseed song peregrina is referring to is "The Lord is good to me." etc. That song is supposed to bring rain.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:51 PM

Adrian Mitchell and Arlo Guthrie: Victor Jara of Chile


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:28 PM

"Day Dah Light"? "Mi come yah fi wuk, mi no come yah fi igle".


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 07:28 PM

shepherd's song

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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: peregrina
Date: 26 Jan 11 - 04:52 PM

The Johnny Appleseed song?


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: Artful Codger
Date: 26 Jan 11 - 04:51 PM

Harry Clifton wrote a number of moralistic music-hall songs, like "Paddle Your Own Canoe," "Work, Boys, Work," "Motto for Every Man," "Never Look Behind," "Wait for the Turn of the Tide" and "Where There's a Will." They were quite popular in his day--had the audience singing along. Steve Gardham and I have posted quite a few here on Mudcat, with MIDIs. You can, of course, revise lyrics to suit your target horde.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jan 11 - 02:10 PM

The Copper Family repertoire should prove a good hunting ground for this sort of song. Try, e.g., A Shepherd Of The Downs.

♪Michael♪


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 26 Jan 11 - 11:58 AM

Come to think of it, what about the Poor Weaver's Daughter? A fair drop of fortitude if ever there was one. If you PM me with your email address, I'll send you a sondclip of the tune.

Poor Weaver's Daughter

As I walked out one May morning across yon fields so early,
I espied a maid, a most beautiful maid, as sweet as any fairy.
I said "My pretty maid, where art thou going?" and by the hand I took her.
She blushed and said "I'm a-going home. I'm a poor old weaver's daughter."

"Oh, may I come with you, my pretty maid, for I've gold and silver in plenty."
She turned her head and blushed and said "Oh, no, kind sir, I thank thee.
My mother she is dead and lay in her grave and the early lesson she taught me
Was to marry for love and not for gold" cried the poor old weaver's daughter.

"My father he is old and nearly blind and he's almost passed his labour.
It would break his heart for me to part, for he's been such a good kind fellow.
Oh, parted from him I ne'er shall be for he's been such a good kind father,
And until he is laid in his peaceful grave, I'm a poor old weaver's daughter."

"Fare thee well, fare thee well, sweet maid" I cried, "May prospects ever be brighter.
And the lad that thou loves be constant and true and happily be united.
For friendship's sake, this gold ring take." Such a lovely maid I thought her.
And as long as I live, I never shall forget that poor old weaver's daughter.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 26 Jan 11 - 11:51 AM

What about We Shepherds are the Best of Men, or Shepherd's Song as it's misleadingly titled in Digitrad. I say misleading because Willie Scott had a very similar song under that latter title.

The text is below and if you Look up Shepherd's Song in Digitrad, you might possibly be able to get the thing to play the tune. I couldn't.

SHEPHERD'S SONG

We shepherds are the best of men that e'er trod English ground
When we come to an alehouse we value not a crown
We spend our money freely; we pays before we go
There's no ale on the wold when the stormy winds do blow.

We spend our money freely; we pays before we go
There's no ale on the wold when the stormy winds do blow

A man that is a shepherd does need a valiant heart
He must not be faint-hearted but boldly do his part
He must not be faint-hearted be it rain or frost or snow
With no ale on the wolds where the stormy winds do blow

When I kept sheep on Blockley hill it made my heart to beat
To see the ewes hang out their tongues and hear the lambs to bleat
Then I plucked up my courage and o'er the hills did go
And pend them in, in the fold while the stormy winds did blow

As soon as I had folded them I turned me back in haste
Unto a jovial company, good liquor for to taste
For drink and jovial company, they are my heart's delight
Whilst my sheep lie asleep all the fore-part of the night.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 26 Jan 11 - 11:27 AM

HThanks for these ideas! Maeve, your first post says it all. We'll give the message through who we are and the music we do.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: maeve
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 08:09 PM

"Be Like a Bird" with words by Victor Hugo and tune by Jan Harmon (sung by the Ouasimodal Chorus! and Libana)is another good one; and easy to teach also.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: Leadfingers
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 08:02 PM

Bit late to be learnng new songs , but Tucker Zimmerman has a good one - - Whats Good and Whats Bad , and 'How D'You know' !


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: maeve
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 07:51 PM

Another thought, Allison; The essence of "Integrity" is, "Be true".

Songs and stories of being true to oneself, to friends and family, being true to an ideal...
Like "What You Do With What You've Got"


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 07:23 PM

it doesn't get better than a man's a man..and you could tie it in with Burns day..he was not a perfect person of course, but sure wrote great songs.



Kid's love I live in Montana I wear a bandana..



Honest work:

I've been working on the railroad
When I first came to this land

Need some more female-oriented..
Rose of Tralee? twas the truth in her eyes ever shining.
..

Irish oriented..

H A RR I GAN spells Harrigan
Proud of all the Irish blood that's in me
Devil a man to say a word again me
H A RRI GAN you see
Is a name that a shame never has been connected with
Harrigan, that's me.


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Subject: RE: Songs for teaching integrity
From: maeve
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 03:01 PM

Here's a thought, Allison. Rather than bend your music to what may be simply the flavor of the month at the school, consider the integrity of what you do every day in your approach to traditional music. Why do you choose this song rather than that one? Why do you sing that particular version? Consider musicians who have lived their lives as persons of integrity; Pete Seeger, Jean Ritchie, Utah Bruce Phillips, Cindy Kallet, Gordon Bok...

"When Seeger goes before an audience, he knows one song he is going to sing—the first one. "I used to write down a few," he says. "Somehow, they never seemed to fit in—so I gave it up." Many of the songs deal with social inequality, with the bomb, and the question of peace. As a humanitarian with a strong feeling for justice, Seeger wants to help solve the problems he sings about. This moral integrity is the source of his strength and beauty as a performer. He has not sacrificed his principles, as have many of today's urban folk singers, out of a prudent avoidance of anything controversial." http://www.peteseeger.net/hifi1963.htm

Show it more than you tell it.

Best wishes for you and Hunt...and get some sleep, eh?

Maeve


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Subject: Songs for teaching integrity
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 02:26 PM

Hunt and I are doing a school program (ages 5-11) this Friday in Baltimore! We have the whole thing set but for one thing: the school's theme of the year is "integrity" and the school director would LOVE it if we could somehow work the theme into our program.
Now, I taught music to young children for 25 years. I can work any theme into any program with just a little creative thinking. But we've been driving all day and my brain is tired and I just thought some of you all might be able to inspire me!


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