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Shave and a haircut

josepp 27 Jan 11 - 04:37 PM
josepp 27 Jan 11 - 04:39 PM
Jack Campin 27 Jan 11 - 05:30 PM
GUEST,Morgana 27 Jan 11 - 08:41 PM
Taconicus 27 Jan 11 - 09:35 PM
josepp 27 Jan 11 - 10:23 PM
Nigel Parsons 28 Jan 11 - 04:30 AM
Joe_F 28 Jan 11 - 08:39 PM
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Subject: Shave and a haircut
From: josepp
Date: 27 Jan 11 - 04:37 PM

This is the oldest known song using the shave-and-a-haircut-two-bits rhythm made so famous by Bo Diddley. It is written by Charles Hale and played on one of those turn of the century nickelodeon music boxes:

At a Darktown Cakewalk

It would appear that this rhythm descended from hambone or juba. It's rather lovely.


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Subject: RE: Shave and a haircut
From: josepp
Date: 27 Jan 11 - 04:39 PM

I should point out that the piece is from 1899.


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Subject: RE: Shave and a haircut
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Jan 11 - 05:30 PM

My mum used to say "bombs and bananas, fried chips" to it - I assumed that dated it to Britain during WW2.


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Subject: RE: Shave and a haircut
From: GUEST,Morgana
Date: 27 Jan 11 - 08:41 PM

I learned from one of my guitar teachers that the "shave and a haircut" phrase originated with the first 78 rpm records, which only held two minutes of music on a side. I don't recall the exact amount of time it takes to sing/play the phrase, but when that number of seconds was left on the record side, the band would stop whatever they were playing and add the tag onto it. I don't know where my guitar teacher learned about this, but it sounds plausible to me.


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Subject: RE: Shave and a haircut
From: Taconicus
Date: 27 Jan 11 - 09:35 PM

Sounds like urban myth to me. Until recently I had an old Victrola with a lot of old 78 RPM records, and I never heard that. I did hear a lot more than 2 minutes on a side, though.


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Subject: RE: Shave and a haircut
From: josepp
Date: 27 Jan 11 - 10:23 PM

According to Wiki, Shave-and-a-haircut-two-bits came from a song co-written by Milton Berle in 1939 called "Save and a Haircut--Shampoo."

Booker White was doing the chunky guitar strum before that, I believe.

I remember it from childhood as dum-diddlee-dum-dum-plus-tax.


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Subject: RE: Shave and a haircut
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:30 AM

Also used (several times) in the chorus to the bawdy version of Old King Cole:

How's your father? Alright
How's your mother? Half-tight
How's your sister? She might
When was the last time? Last night
When's the next time? Tonight
Oompah oompah, stick it up your jumper
Old King Cole was a bugger for his hole ...

Cheers
Nigel


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Subject: RE: Shave and a haircut
From: Joe_F
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 08:39 PM

Sung by the whorehouse quartet.
Have you got a hardon? Not yet.
Are you gonna get one? You bet.


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