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Jack the Sailor 02 Feb 11 - 07:57 AM
Bobert 02 Feb 11 - 08:08 AM
artbrooks 02 Feb 11 - 08:22 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 02 Feb 11 - 08:28 AM
gnu 02 Feb 11 - 08:35 AM
bobad 02 Feb 11 - 08:38 AM
GUEST,John MacKenzie 02 Feb 11 - 08:49 AM
Jack the Sailor 02 Feb 11 - 08:54 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 02 Feb 11 - 09:02 AM
The Sandman 02 Feb 11 - 09:07 AM
Jack the Sailor 02 Feb 11 - 09:15 AM
Beer 02 Feb 11 - 09:24 AM
My guru always said 02 Feb 11 - 09:24 AM
Micca 02 Feb 11 - 09:32 AM
olddude 02 Feb 11 - 09:47 AM
Rapparee 02 Feb 11 - 09:51 AM
Rapparee 02 Feb 11 - 10:06 AM
Rapparee 02 Feb 11 - 10:09 AM
The Sandman 02 Feb 11 - 10:14 AM
Backwoodsman 02 Feb 11 - 10:34 AM
jacqui.c 02 Feb 11 - 11:00 AM
Richard Bridge 02 Feb 11 - 11:00 AM
Greg F. 02 Feb 11 - 11:14 AM
Ebbie 02 Feb 11 - 11:18 AM
theleveller 02 Feb 11 - 11:20 AM
Steve Shaw 02 Feb 11 - 11:37 AM
Amergin 02 Feb 11 - 11:47 AM
Noreen 02 Feb 11 - 12:01 PM
Bonnie Shaljean 02 Feb 11 - 12:04 PM
Ernest 02 Feb 11 - 12:05 PM
Mrs.Duck 02 Feb 11 - 12:10 PM
maeve 02 Feb 11 - 12:12 PM
gnu 02 Feb 11 - 12:25 PM
ClaireBear 02 Feb 11 - 12:33 PM
GUEST,999 02 Feb 11 - 12:38 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 02 Feb 11 - 12:41 PM
GUEST,999 02 Feb 11 - 12:42 PM
GUEST,999 02 Feb 11 - 12:43 PM
Bonnie Shaljean 02 Feb 11 - 12:48 PM
GUEST,999 02 Feb 11 - 12:53 PM
Bonnie Shaljean 02 Feb 11 - 12:55 PM
The Sandman 02 Feb 11 - 01:04 PM
Jeri 02 Feb 11 - 01:08 PM

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Subject: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 07:57 AM

Did anyone else get this PM? If it is a joke it is pretty funny. If it isn't, then why is this person telling me I can't post whatever I want on my own social network site? Why does he seem to think that we want the Mudcat to control our pictures?



Dear member

It has been brought to my attention by Joe Offer that due to security flaws on some social networking sites that thousands of private photographs and contact details can be viewed by almost anyone on-line with ease.

We do understand that it's down to these social networking sites decision to make more of their users' information public right across the web -- without asking them for permission first.

Please keep in mind, there is a certain responsibly for members of this forum to promote folk music in a positive sense, and maintaining some concept of decorum to prescribed limits of appropriate social behaviour within set situations.
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It is unfortunate, that we have been made aware of photographs of Mudcat members, inebriated and in compromising positions on drunken nights out on the town to personal photographs of yourselves .

In some cases there's even a GPS (Global Positioning System) tracker function pinpointing the exact location of the user. We have found that by simply typing keywords such as "Mudcat", "Mudcat Cafe" or "Mudcat folk" into Google's search box, it brings up an interactive directory of members of this forum.

We have deliberately decided not to disclose the identities of all members we found, but as ever, the internet is not just as discrete. Below, are a few examples of what we found yesterday evening.


FACEBOOK       http://www.facebook.com/home.php

MYSPACE          http://uk.myspace.com/home

EONS                   http://www.eons.com/members/profile

BEBO                   http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=10352074628

LIVEJOURNAL   http://mudcatx.livejournal.com/profile

FLICKR                http://www.flickr.com/photos/58977273@N03/

PICASA                http://picasaweb.google.com/DaveMudcat

Social networks are a great modern tool but like everything else they have bad elements too. A number of the photographs we looked at have been harvested from photos posted by our forum members, along with a lot of pictures taken by individuals at various Mudcat gatherings throughout the country.

You have the right to ask Flickr, Picasa, Eons,Facebook, bebo, LiveJournal or Myspace to remove any photographs of yourself that may appear on such pages. The photos in question are not posted at the Mudcat Cafe, and the Flickr/Myspace/Livejournal/bebo/Twitter and Facebook pages are NOT under our control.


All the best to you.

-Roger Gall, Forum (Elf) Moderator, The Mudcat Café.-

    From Joe Offer: Oh, gee. I was thinking just last night about how quiet and pleasant it has been at Mudcat the last few weeks. Our little troll has been doing the usual dirty work on Facebook and other social networking sites, but I think our troll got bored because Mudcatters have become very good at ignoring all that garbage.

    "Roger C. Gall" is not OUR Roger "Shambles" Gall. It's a fraudulent membership, taken out within the last few days, no doubt by our little Facebook / BNP / Flickr / IRA / Wikipedia friend. His/her aim is to get Mudcatters in a tizzy. Please, please, please - don't cooperate with this person by responding to him/her or by giving public notice to this person's antics. If you wish to discuss such matters, discuss it privately - and let me or Max know about it privately, too.

    I suppose people could complain that Mudcat should "do something about this," but please note that this person has also done his/her dirty deeds on Facebook, Flickr, Bebo, and a long list of other commercial "Social Networking" sites that spend bundles of money on security. The best we can do is ask you to pay no heed to this person, and let us know about him/her privately. In turn, we will do what we can....privately and quietly, not giving the attention or showing the hysteria that this person craves. Oh, and please don't feed the troll by becoming outraged at the reference to Dave Bryant. Dave had an exquisite sense of humor, and there's a good chance he'd make an elaborate joke of that outrage.
    So, as usual, "don't pay no nevermind" to our little troll. Thanks.

    Oh, and thanks to Jeri for closing the thread while I was still sleeping. I changed the thread title because I thought it wasn't fair to Roger to leave it in his name.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:08 AM

Yeah, I got it...

Heck, I can't recall doing anything that if it were photographed I'd have to say "opps" or "so sorry" so heck with it...

I mean, if someone is out there doing photoshop stuff with me and farm animals then maybe I'd get worked up but really, I don't give a rats ass about piccures... I mean, let's get real here... Most of us are performers and lots of folks take piccure sof people performing... Who cares???

And BTW, I don't believe that anyone has invented a camera that not only takes yer piccure but also can detect yer blood alcohol level and print it down in the corner... And even if they have, who cares, part B...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: artbrooks
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:22 AM

Got it - never heard of him. Perhaps Joe will let us know how a spammer has access to the PM function.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:28 AM

I got the PM, but it was blank. They forgot to paste in the content.

It's likely our old BNP friends with too much time on their hands.

The delete button handles that kind of crap just fine.

Don t.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:35 AM

Yup.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: bobad
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:38 AM

It's just someone jerking around. The name, though is familiar, wasn't that Shambles' real name?


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: GUEST,John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:49 AM

Still is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 08:54 AM

I am aware of the delete button. Like I said, it it was a joke, it was pretty funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:02 AM

Yep, me too. But there are no photos of me anyhere on my Facebook page except my avatar one which I don't care who sees. I also got a special email account just for FB, so that if it noises that around cyberspace it won't compromise my personal ones. No phone numbers on there either. Not enough to worry about all the FB privacy hassles, sounds like we've now got a mud troll to contend with too.

I tried pasting in that Facebook link - the generic "home" one from the look of it (my name wasn't on it anywhere), and it just took me to my perfectly innocent home page, which contained nothing startling.

JOEEEEEEE... since your name is mentioned in that message - do you know anything about this?

And: Is there anyone reading this thread who did NOT get that PM? Interesting to know if some of us are being targetted, though I never had any falling out with him so he has no reason for any special grudge against me personally... unless he hates harp players...


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:07 AM

it is the Shambles real name


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:15 AM

it is the Shambles real name

that is illuminating.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Beer
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:24 AM

Got it.
Those above me on this thread. Have you all posted pictures somewhere on the Mudcat? I have through Picasa and wondered if it is just targeting members who post pictures. I'm careful in what I post so i really don't give a hoot as well.
adrien


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: My guru always said
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:24 AM

I didn't get it! Hmm, I feel a little left out...


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Micca
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:32 AM

Don, you might find that the "title "is a single full stop .


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: olddude
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:47 AM

Yup I got it


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 09:51 AM

I got it, but the message was "This membership is inactive." I PMed Joe, but he might already be on it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 10:06 AM

I don't really CARE what is posted, 'cause I ain't put up nothin' to be ashamed of. Except for that series of pictures a guy took when I was at Woodstock I, maybe, in the mud, with Ebbie, and a llama, and somebody with long hair, and three FBI agents, and Timothy Leary, and Pope Paul VI, and LBJ, and some cat, and a giant squid, and John Lennon, and Richard Nixon, and Bobert, and (I think) Kilm Il-Sung. But I'm not at all sure of it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 10:09 AM

Oh boy! I just got The Message! I'm one of the In Crowd now!

(Except for Facebook I don't know what those things are.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 10:14 AM

its probably someone imitating shambles


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 10:34 AM

Yep, I got a PM - but no message, just a poppy-uppy-thingy that said that 'this account is now inactive'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 11:00 AM

I got it - knew it was Shambles real name and, to be quite honest, it looks like some of his nonsense.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 11:00 AM

It's kind of a shame that stupidity is not a terminal illness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 11:14 AM

Classic example of stupidity is posting personal information to FarceBook & other similar narcissistic & exhibitionist sites.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 11:18 AM

"Except for that series of pictures a guy took when I was at Woodstock I, maybe, in the mud, with Ebbie, and a llama, and somebody with long hair, and three FBI agents, and Timothy Leary, and Pope Paul VI, and LBJ, and some cat, and a giant squid, and John Lennon, and Richard Nixon, and Bobert, and (I think) Kilm Il-Sung. But I'm not at all sure of it."

That was a private party, Rap, and you promised not to tell.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: theleveller
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 11:20 AM

I got a blank message. No idea who Shambles is or this Gall character.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 11:37 AM

Well I got it and I've never posted any pictures to Mudcat nor am I, nor have I ever been, a member of any social networking site! Nor have I ever been pissed enough to have had a compromising photo of me taken. It reminded me of one of those bank phishing scams you get purporting to come from a bank you've never belonged to!


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Amergin
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 11:47 AM

I didn't get one...but I agree with Jacqui....it looks just like the sort of paranoid crap Shambles use to post....


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:01 PM

Roger Gall, Elf?

Don't think so...


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:04 PM

NOTICE:

I just got a strange Facebook message from a Mudcatter making nasty accusations against another Mudcatter (nobody in this thread, and nobody I know personally). I'm in FB under my own name, and anyone can send a FB message - so I don't know if it's really from this person or not, but it sounds weird and I'm not replying.

My reason for mentioning this here is: If you get Facebook messages "from" anyone connected with Mudcat making allegations against other Catters, I would treat them with suspicion, and not answer.

I have PM's the text of it to Joe. In the meantime you might regard your Facebook messages with caution, in regards to both whoever sent it and also whomever the message says bad things about.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Ernest
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:05 PM

Got it too. The Poster even adressed me as "Ernie", so apart from cutting and pasting in a standard text he seems to be trying to give the thing a more individual look. Did he become thus "personal" with others too?

Never met "Shambles" (in fact I met relatively few catters compared to some of you) btw.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:10 PM

I got it. What is more worrying is that I already had a similar message via e mail a few weeks ago. I forwarded it to Joe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: maeve
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:12 PM

Hmmm...


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: gnu
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:25 PM

A Brit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: ClaireBear
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:33 PM

I'm in the "in" crowd too, God knows why.

I presume Roger C. Gall is NOT actually a Mud-elf, but I think I'd be more comfortable had I confirmation of that.

Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:38 PM

Facebook is shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:41 PM

I got what was either a "." or a picture of a speck of fly shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:42 PM

Rest of my post didn`t appear.

Dealing with their so-called security department is a new adventure in ineptitude and frustration. May their balls rot and then fall off. Bastards.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:43 PM

I got the same thing BWL.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:48 PM

Remember, "Roger C Gall" himself may not have even sent that PM. There are a couple of things that make me wonder about the possibility of hacking, about which I'm not going into further detail. Meanwhile, in the immortal words of Mulder:

Trust No One


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:53 PM

Roger--rightfully or wrongfully--was banned some years back. I fail to see how he had any access to Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 12:55 PM

And anyone who CAN hack, can possibly even start threads or post messages in members' names.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 01:04 PM

its very doubtful its REALLY from Shambles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Roger C Gall
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Feb 11 - 01:08 PM

Roger still posts as a GUEST, and anybody can take out a membership here.

Those who figured out this was a fake and a troll, congratulations. Roger didn't seem to like mods much, and certainly wouldn't pretend to be one.

I don't feel comfortable deleting this thread. If I deleted things that got people's panties in a bunch, half the BS section would be gone. Richard Bridge might have a point, but it may be good for us to see who has reacted and who didn't.

I AM going to close it, as the whole "stolen name in lights" isn't fair to Roger.


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