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BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!

Will Fly 07 Feb 11 - 01:54 PM
Little Hawk 07 Feb 11 - 01:57 PM
Wesley S 07 Feb 11 - 02:08 PM
Will Fly 07 Feb 11 - 02:09 PM
Bert 07 Feb 11 - 02:12 PM
Little Hawk 07 Feb 11 - 02:27 PM
gnu 07 Feb 11 - 02:27 PM
McGrath of Harlow 07 Feb 11 - 02:33 PM
Smedley 07 Feb 11 - 02:33 PM
Little Hawk 07 Feb 11 - 02:35 PM
VirginiaTam 07 Feb 11 - 02:35 PM
Will Fly 07 Feb 11 - 02:35 PM
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GUEST,Eliza 07 Feb 11 - 03:25 PM
gnu 07 Feb 11 - 03:30 PM
Acorn4 07 Feb 11 - 03:35 PM
GUEST,Shimrod 07 Feb 11 - 04:03 PM
Dorothy Parshall 07 Feb 11 - 04:06 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 07 Feb 11 - 04:36 PM
Smedley 07 Feb 11 - 05:18 PM
Little Hawk 07 Feb 11 - 05:34 PM
GUEST, topsie 07 Feb 11 - 05:58 PM
Herga Kitty 07 Feb 11 - 06:29 PM
Dave MacKenzie 07 Feb 11 - 08:03 PM
bubblyrat 07 Feb 11 - 08:54 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 07 Feb 11 - 09:19 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 08 Feb 11 - 05:12 AM
Spot 08 Feb 11 - 05:53 AM
Spot 08 Feb 11 - 05:57 AM
C-flat 08 Feb 11 - 07:43 AM
Dave MacKenzie 08 Feb 11 - 09:21 AM
C-flat 08 Feb 11 - 09:31 AM
GUEST,Max Johnson 08 Feb 11 - 09:55 AM
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Subject: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Will Fly
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 01:54 PM

"One Man and His Campervan" - BBC2, 6.30pm.

One cool young dude - "I'm not reallya chef..." travels round britain in his vintage VW campervan, finding food, cooking it, and going on and on about the lifestyle. Yawn.

You can almost hear the suits sat round the BBC table, ruminating on what's left to do in the foodie porn line. "Well, we've done the Hairy Bikers and the Two Fat Ladies - and we have to compete with Jamie Oliver and Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall... So what can we do, eh?"

"I know!" one exclaims...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 01:57 PM

I take it that they have not done one yet with a chef who is a chimpanzee?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Wesley S
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:08 PM

It's all about the ratings. If enough people are watching these programs then they will stay on the air. And yes - I AM the master of the obvious.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Will Fly
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:09 PM

Bring it on, LH - bring it on!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Bert
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:12 PM

...a chef who is a chimpanzee...

Well there is Gordon Ramsey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:27 PM

Chongo is always looking for a quick way to earn a buck. I'll advise him to get in touch with the BBC at once. I'm betting that his show would rocket to the top of the ratings and stay there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:27 PM

Is Flloyd On Fish still on the air? I enjoyed that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:33 PM

I enjoy the Hairy Bikers from time to time - they seem to have the right idea about what good food consists of. And they feel familiar, the kind of blokes you run into in folk clubs or festivals. You can just see them in the shanty bar, or singing music hall á la Cosmotheka.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Smedley
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:33 PM

Repeats only - Floyd can't make any more on account of being dead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:35 PM

Whatever happened to Nigella Lawson?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:35 PM

I'd rather the show was about camper van man travelling to all the UK folk festivals.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Will Fly
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:35 PM

Floyd can't make any more on account of being dead.

It never stopped him before.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:55 PM

No, before, he wasn't dead, just pickled.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 03:25 PM

I did used to have a soft spot for the Two Fat Ladies. I believe Jennifer is no longer with us. They were very funny at times. They once visited a convent to cook for the nuns and one of the Sisters, explaining how they managed the land, said "We have a man twice a week." Clarissa's face was a picture!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 03:30 PM

Floyd fled? Ahhhh, too bad. I enjoyed his humour and the knowledge he televised from the finest chefs.

Was Kerr the pioneer of cooking shows in Britain?


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Acorn4
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 03:35 PM

Ah, I can remember the days when it was just Fanny and Johnny Craddock!

Poor Johnny wasn't allowed to say anything during the programme but was given orders such as "put it in the oven, Johnny!". He was, however allowed to say a couple of sentences at the end.

On one occasion Fanny had been cooking doughnuts, and Johnny achieved TV immortality with the line:-

"Well, it's goodbye from me and here's hoping all your doughnuts end up looking just like Fanny's!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 04:03 PM

The Hairy Bikers are very, very annoying and not nearly as funny as they think they are.

I always watch Nigella Lawson. I particularly enjoy the episodes which involve whisking ... can't think why ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 04:06 PM

VT has the right idea - a program about going to folk festivals! Think on it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 04:36 PM

A whole TV channel (and a couple of part-channels) on cooking. Should be called the Alka-Seltzer channels (or whatever yout favorite stomach-settler is).
For a while I subscribed to BBCAmerica, but dropped it. That guy who wrecks restaurants and says fuck every other sentence was too much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Smedley
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 05:18 PM

Gnu, Graham Kerr was a big hit here, but TV cooking in the UK goes right back to the early 50s. A man called Philip Harben was the first TV 'celebrity chef', followed by the already mentioned Fanny Cradock.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 05:34 PM

The Galloping Gourmet used to be very popular in Canada.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 05:58 PM

Philip Harben may have been the first Television chef (1946) but was followed closely by Marguerite Patten (1947). Fanny Craddock's television career only began in the mid-1950s.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 06:29 PM

I just read today that Jamie Oliver has been banned from filming in LA schools ...

Marguerite Patten of course became famous on the radio for her wartime recipes before she appeared on TV.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 08:03 PM

I can only remember the ones that were on after I was born, so the firsat one I remember was Grannie Haddock.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: bubblyrat
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 08:54 PM

I like the Monday night programme about baking with the gorgeous ,black,ex-fashion model of (apparently ) Polish descent,and whose very voice sends shivers down my spine ; tonight was particularly shivery !!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 09:19 PM

A great online cookbook from the Blue Flame kitchen, from here, the gourmet capital of the world, Calgary, Alberta!

Who needs those 'sodding' TV cooks?

http://www.atcoblueflamekitchen.com/Recipes/Browse%20Recipes


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 05:12 AM

You never get programmes about the nuances of English cuisine. The various ways for example you can can enjoy a packet of cheese and onion crisps and a couple of pints.

Standing on Monsall head on a windy day with a packet of Kettles Crisps (plain naturally) and pint of Old Peculiar.

having one of the free chip butties in the interval at Mansfield folk Club.

Not to mention the free grub in the interval at The Vernon in Derby.

Its always boring shit - rostis and coulis and jus. I mean, if you put your rosti between two slices of buttered bread, them dipped it in your coulis and then your jus - you still wouldn't have a decent sandwich.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Spot
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 05:53 AM

Halloo everybody

Have to agree with Shimrod here..Hairy Bikers are incredibly cringeworthy - I'm embarassed by their attempts at humour...
This Campervan thing - I caught a bit of it last night. Matey's attempt at mussel cooking seemed to get washed away by the sea.I turned it off at that point. Poor stuff...!! Another one jumping on the bandwagon!!

I reckon 99% of TV is utter shite.....

Regards to all...

Spot :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Spot
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 05:57 AM

Hallo again..

Now - a cookery programme on nature's bounty, fronted by Bruce Parry would be good. His recent forays into the Arctic is the only reason I keep a TV!!! He's about the only presenter of anything that deserves credibility in my opinion!!

Long live the Bruce!!!    :-)

Regards again.... Spot


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: C-flat
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 07:43 AM

This whole thread would sit nicely in the "Rant" thread currently running.
I'm constantly irked by the rolling cookery programmes offering an endless opportunity to observe so called celebrities telling me how to make my dinner whilst showing me how lifestyle is pale and uninteresting measured against their beautifully designed homes, cosmopolitan friends and educated taste.

However, my wife likes them.

This is a source of some disagreement as her enjoyment of such twaddle now extends to "Come Dine With Me". A show about dim-witted dullards who can't cook, no nothing about entertaining guests and seem to have strange personality quirks, making them the worst possible people to have over for dinner!!
I don't know how I keep my foot out of the TV!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 09:21 AM

We're not the only ones! Gregg Wallace (of Masterchef) remarked last week in 'Countdown' (and again in next week's Radio Times) how he dislikes hearing about a 'classic with a twist'. If it's a clasasic, it doesn't need a twist!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: C-flat
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 09:31 AM

I also find Gregg Wallace irritating!
If I hear that mockney accent of his shouting about "cooking dahsn't get any taffer than this!!" I'll scream!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Max Johnson
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 09:55 AM

C-flat
There's a rant thread??? Brilliant!!!

Delia taught me how to make good muffins, and her salmon fish cakes are great, so she's in.
And Nigel Slater.
And Nigella.

I can't watch any of them but their books are excellent.

I enjoyed a comment by Clarissa Dixon-Wright when everyone was slagging Delia off because of her series of books on boiling water. She said 'I wont say a word against Delia. She's given people the confidence to use my recipies'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: C-flat
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 10:34 AM

Max, I agree about Nigella. She's OK. (better than ok)
I could watch her boil a kettle!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: C-flat
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 10:36 AM

Does that make me a bad person?....


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Max Johnson
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 11:09 AM

Yes, C-flat, I'm afraid it does. But I've always felt that being a bad person is okay.

I can't watch Nigella because I think she's become a bit of a cartoon, but I like her books. I recommend 'Kitchen'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:02 PM

I have been yearning for Nigella Lawson ever since reading one of those Adrian Mole books by Sue Townsend. She sounds quite attractive to me. Must go to Youtube and get my daily fix of Nigella! ;-)

One thing I think I should mention. The UK has long had a reputation worldwide for having pretty dreadful cuisine. That reputation is now being imperilled by all these TV cooking shows which could encourage Britons to raise their culinary standards. I'm not sure if that's good or bad, but I just thought I'd comment on it. There is something to be said, after all, for maintaining a tradition, even if it is an uninspiring one...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:07 PM

I wouldn't worry, Little Hawk. Rumour has it that most of the people who watch the programmes in fact live on takeaways and microwave ready-meals.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:19 PM

British cookery almost improved when some of those serving the Raj came home with Anglo-Indian currys.
The immigrants from India and the Pacific rim have made England a place where one can always find a good meal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:25 PM

It's like that in Canada too, Q. Without the influx of many interesting foreigners from Asia and elsewhere that has occurred in the last few decades, I shudder to think of the wretched stuff that one would be limited to eating at the local restaurants. One can still get that wretched stuff, of course, but now own has a choice! ;-) In my case, I eat mainly at the Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese, and Indian restaurants. There are also one or two Chinese places which are pretty good. And there is ONE genuinely fine fish and chips place in town...for that, I guess, I can think the British tradition.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:28 PM

"thank" the British tradition, I mean...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:34 PM

Good lord . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:36 PM

"Yes, my son?" ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 01:38 PM

lol


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 02:12 PM

The answer to bad radio or tv programming is to STOP WATCHING, doh!

Let the sponsors know and send a cc to the station. Sign the letter and send it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 02:19 PM

English cuisine in pubs and restaurants has improved immeasurably over the last 20 years. But the proliferation of cookery programmes on TV hasn't exponentially increased the quality of cooking in the home. It's become cookery porn. Watch the programmes while snacking on a TV dinner...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 02:30 PM

'cookery porn'.........?

Its not THAT good!

I often wish I could chop things up like they do on telly. Its the opposite of porn really, because it makes me feel like an inadequate chopper. And that is such a turn off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 08 Feb 11 - 02:42 PM

As most people work, women and men, one can't be too hard on them preferring to buy a takeaway or stick something in the microwave. It's just the endless munching on burgers, KFC or pizzas which isn't good for health. If the takeaway is a Chinese or Indian meal, it's not too bad healthwise. Ditto the microwave dinners if they're healthy ones. I remember staggering home exhausted after work and peeling spuds with my coat on. Who wants to do that? But I do wonder how many folk can bake a cake, make pastry, bread etc. nowadays? Did anyone watch Kirsty Allsop and Phil Spencer at Christmas time? The daft things they cooked, fiddly to the point of C.O.D., and ingredients costing the absolute Earth, what planet are these toffs on? (The Rich People's Planet, I suppose)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Dead Horse
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 05:07 AM

The 'Rich peoples planet' is the one where they need help finding a eighteen bedroom, three receptions with indoor + outdoor pool in Australia or {{{shudder}}} Yorkshire, and all on a budget of only 6 million.
Poor relief, I suppose. They cant afford to cook, so they all eat out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 05:39 AM

One man and his Campervan is one that I am going to do my very best to avoid. To me it is just another excuse for a food programme. It could be good for promoting tourism if he visits different regions around the UK but you can get that from the Hairy Bikers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 07:48 AM

Please don't worry about Chopper Inadequacy, Alan. I'm sure you're well up to standard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 08:42 AM

'Come Dine With Me' can be quite funny because the food can be either good or very bad (swiss roll and custard) and then it would depend on whether the contestants actually liked each other or not when it came to voting. The commentary is a little bit over the top sometimes, but that is my only gripe.

Really I am surprised that they haven't come up with 'Cooking on the Road during a Coach Trip' yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: gnomad
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 08:54 AM

I seem to recall an early series of Huge Fearlessly-Eatsitall bobbing around the canal system in a boat called the Bain-Marie, and foraging a bit. He then tried to get Joe Public to try the things he cooked.

Sorrel from the tow-path where folks walk their dogs, and inflicting woodlouse omelette on some poor unsuspecting chap who was passing by with his little lad (who tried manfully to be polite and say it was OK, but whose face told another tale) are two episodes I remember.

The whole thing was a bit crazy, maybe Parry would have a different take.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Spot
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 10:08 AM

Ok Gnomad...Point taken re "Nature's Bounty" :-)

Never had woodlouse then?? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: C-flat
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 12:41 PM

Really I am surprised that they haven't come up with 'Cooking on the Road during a Coach Trip' yet.

Oh, Well done, Patsy!!! Give the buggers ideas why don't you?!!?

Next it'll be Masterchef On Ice!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: gnomad
Date: 09 Feb 11 - 12:42 PM

Never knowingly, at least. IIRC he reckoned they taste like shrimp, which wouldn't encourage me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 06:39 AM

Sorry C-flat it just reminded me of the Peter Kaye send up of reality TV Xfactor-Strictly-On Ice. My imagination ran away with me a bit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 08:40 AM

Well, would you believe it - a new series with the Hairy Bikers on BBC2 this evening - number 1 of 8: "Mums Know Best".

Words fail me...


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Subject: RE: BS: Another sodding food programme on UK TV!
From: C-flat
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 10:58 AM

That's ok Patsy. I fully understand.

"Britains'-Got-Strictly-Come-Dine-With-Me-On-Ice-Factor-In-A-Camper-Van" is probably coming to us soon anyway!!!!


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