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Info on Rennie Pickles please

GUEST 11 Feb 11 - 09:37 AM
Vic Smith 11 Feb 11 - 09:51 AM
Tig 11 Feb 11 - 09:55 AM
Max Johnson 11 Feb 11 - 11:29 AM
r.padgett 11 Feb 11 - 11:39 AM
Matthew Edwards 11 Feb 11 - 11:50 AM
GUEST,Georgina Boyes 11 Feb 11 - 11:57 AM
GUEST,baz parkes 11 Feb 11 - 11:57 AM
Vic Smith 11 Feb 11 - 12:05 PM
Vic Smith 11 Feb 11 - 12:15 PM
GUEST,Topic 56 06 Jun 12 - 12:17 PM
Steve Gardham 06 Jun 12 - 06:23 PM
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Subject: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 09:37 AM

I have been running a thread on vintage British folk scene photos for some while now on the fRoots Forum at http://froots.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=25499#25499
I posted a photo of RENE PICKLES and got a request for more information about him from Andy Turner. Hmm! He picked out the person in this whole gallery that I know least about!

The photograph was scanned from the June 1972 issue of Folk Review. The photo comes from a feature on the National Folk Festival in its years at Keele and Loughborough. The only reference to him in the accompanying article says "Rene Pickles will show how to make and use 'Seth Davy' dolls."
Google only finds one reference to him - in a thread in Mudcat called Seth Davy info please at thread.cfm?threadid=14342&desc=yes and this dates back to October 1999! I think they have got the wrong person, however, because the post by "roopoo" talks about "she". It says:-
I've got a dancing doll. The basic principle is simple, but it requires the right touch to get it going properly. I haven't got it, one of his arms keeps wheeling about in a one-sided backstroke, so he hangs on the wall. I saw someone, Rene Pickles, I think, who had some beauties and could make them dance well. She also had a Canadian doll. cheers mouldy

Can anyone help me?


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 09:51 AM

Where's my cookie disappeared to? The above "GUEST" post was me.


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: Tig
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 09:55 AM

It was probably from Pat, his wife. She has kept up Rene's work and is working on a new jigdolls book - which should be due out soon.

Sorry I can't help you with a phone number but she lives at Crofton, Wakefield.


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: Max Johnson
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 11:29 AM

Rene was singing with The Cropper Lads the first time I ever went to a folk club in 1965. That evening probably changed my life.


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: r.padgett
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 11:39 AM

Rene Pickles was a Cropper lad a big lad with a great sense of
humour big Mutton chop whiskers and constant cigarette!

He and Pat collected not only Dancing dolls of all descriptions but postcards of all ilks

I remembering him telling jokes in the gents at Redcar ff years ago in the presence of me, my mate Johnny Booker (another comedian!) and Brian Howard of Howard Whistle fame!

Years later Pat held a dancing dolls session and some of my mates went and were in the company of Rolf Harris too!


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 11:50 AM

His name was Rennie! Please correct the thread title.

He and his wife Pat wrote the best (and only) history of jig dolls 'The Brightest of Entertainers'. Pat has been collaborating with Katie Howson on a revised edition which is due out some time in 2011.

As Ray says Pat has one of the best collections of postcards featuring mainly folk related themes.

Matthew


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Subject: RE: Info on RENNIE PICKLES please
From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 11:57 AM

Vic - have e-mailed with details of Pat's address. She doesn't have e-mail.

Georgina


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: GUEST,baz parkes
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 11:57 AM

They most certainly did...I have a copy in what we laughingly call the study. If I come across it I'll add any relevant details it might tell you
Baz


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 12:05 PM

Matthew Edwards wrote:-
His name was Rennie! Please correct the thread title.

Sorry, Matthew, I never knew the man and I am only perpetuating the only way that I have seen the name written - the way his photo is labelled and in the article in Folk Review in 1972 and in the one reference to his name in Mudcat in 1999 (see above).... and only the Mudcat moderators can change the name of the thread.


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Subject: RE: Info on RENE PICKLES please
From: Vic Smith
Date: 11 Feb 11 - 12:15 PM

Thanks to Matthew for giving me the correct spelling. That has enabled me to find a fascinating articles on jig dolls including a lot on Rennie & pat by Chris Brady at http://chrisbrady.itgo.com/jigdolls/jigdolls.htm and on the EATMT site at http://www.eatmt.org.uk/jigdolls.htm where you can also buy Rennie & Pat's book.


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Subject: RE: Info on RENNIE PICKLES please
From: GUEST,Topic 56
Date: 06 Jun 12 - 12:17 PM

I have stumbled on this post by accident. It is correct that Pat lives in Crofton Wakefield and has no e-mail address and in fact does not have a computer. They both ran a Folk dance club in Wakefield as well as being involved with Castleford Longsword. Rennie was an early member of The Topic folk Club in Bradford. He was amember of The Cropper Lads with Bob Spray, Jim Potter and Alan Robinson. Gus Grenfell replaced Alan robinson when he moved down South. Rennie famed for his Dancing Dolls and was a larger than life character. I any body still reads the above posts hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: Info on Rennie Pickles please
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 06 Jun 12 - 06:23 PM

I knew Rennie and Pat well. I'm still in contact with Pat. Jim is back singing and playing in the Barnsley area and running workshops on mining songs and Yorkshire songs. He is also an active member of the Yorkshire Garland Group. Listen to him singing at yorkshirefolksong.net


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Subject: RE: Info on Rennie Pickles please
From: r.padgett
Date: 07 Jun 12 - 03:22 AM

Quite so Steve, just passed Jim Potter's house again on me walk!

Ray


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