Martin 000-16SGT guitar

Subject: RE: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: alex s
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 05:12 PM

I have a 000M which is tiny but very bright and surprisingly loud. I notice that many of these models, like mine and the 000-16sgt, are discontinued very quickly - is there a marketing strategy at work? why stop producing a good guitar?

Puzzled of Tunbridge Wells

Subject: RE: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 09:05 AM

I have a Martin w mahogany back and sides 000C-16GTE

Plays beautifully
The sound is softer than rosewood and brightens a little using brass bridge pins
Its not for sale!

Subject: RE: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 07:00 AM

It's been said befofe, but the most important thing, is to be any good at playing

Subject: RE: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Midchuck
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 06:50 AM

In my experience, one can generalize that, all other things (size, woods, quality of construction generally) being equal, a 12-fret slothead guitar will have more overall power and richness of tone than a 14-fret solid head.

There are three factors that I've seen suggested as reasons for this:

1) The round shoulders on the slothead body give it a little more actual volume in the sound chamber than a 14-fret of the same nominal size, but with square shoulders.

2) The 12-fret body puts the bridge more nearly dead center in the top of the lower bout, making the whole top vibrate more evenly.

3) The slothead with the tuners down inside makes the strings "break" over the nut at a sharper angle, meaning they push down harder on the nut, meaning sound is transmitted through the string/nut contact more strongly.

I am not enough of an engineer to evaluate any of these theories, but _something_ gives the 12-fret slothead an advantage, if you don't mind losing access to two frets. IMO.

Peter

Subject: RE: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Padre
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 12:53 AM

I'm currently playing a 000-15S which is an all-mahogany guitar of the same size. The 12-fret neck is what sold me on it.

Subject: RE: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 02:41 PM

My mahogany Apollonio is the best guitar I've ever played, let alone owned. For finger-picking it's just the ticket, and the 000 is one of my favorite shapes.

That's a good price for a solid body Martin. It'd be interesting to see how thick the top is, etc.

Dan

Subject: RE: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 02:11 PM

Yes, the 12 fret body does seem to add a lot of oomph by increasing the size of the upper bout. It's got a very balanced sound up and down the entire neck. Light gauge strings on this guitar, and a slotted head.

Rosewood has usually been my favorite tonewood, Wesley, but I have a koa-bodied guitar here that sounds great too, and a cherry-bodied guitar (Martin SWJGT) that's lovely. I was surprised how good the mahogany bodied 000-16 sounds. I've played other mahogany guitars in the past, and there seemed to be something missing in their sound, though it was a little hard for me to say just what it was.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 01:25 PM

I'm glad to hear that you're considering coming over to the wide world of mahogany. It's a great tonewood for a guitar.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Mark Ross
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 01:22 PM

It's the 12 fret body that gives it that extra oomph. And yes, this should be moved to the music section.

Mark Ross

Subject: BS: Martin 000-16SGT guitar
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 11 - 12:43 PM

I played one of these at a local music store yesterday...and wow! What a nice guitar.

Martin 000-16SGT

It's got a surprisingly warm and powerful sound for such a small bodied instrument, and great sustain. And it's very comfortable to hold and play. And it's priced just over $1,000. I frankly liked it quite a bit better than the $2,200 D-28 that was hanging right next to it.

The 000-16SGT has mahogany back and sides and a sitka spruce top. The interesting thing is, I don't usually like mahogany body guitars all that much, but I loved this one.

Does anyone else have one or have some comments about this model of Martin guitar?