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Folk Music on the Radio - UK

Dave the Gnome 20 Feb 11 - 11:49 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 20 Feb 11 - 02:48 PM
Dave the Gnome 20 Feb 11 - 03:54 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 20 Feb 11 - 08:18 PM
Surreysinger 20 Feb 11 - 09:12 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 21 Feb 11 - 02:52 AM
GUEST,PeterC 21 Feb 11 - 05:04 AM
GUEST,Jon 21 Feb 11 - 05:12 AM
rabbitlegs 21 Feb 11 - 05:18 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 21 Feb 11 - 05:47 AM
Paul Reade 21 Feb 11 - 06:27 AM
GUEST 21 Feb 11 - 06:32 AM
GUEST,SteveT 21 Feb 11 - 06:49 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 21 Feb 11 - 09:13 AM
GUEST,Millindale 21 Feb 11 - 09:57 AM
GUEST,LDT 21 Feb 11 - 10:58 AM
rabbitlegs 21 Feb 11 - 11:03 AM
GUEST,Ralphie 21 Feb 11 - 01:32 PM
Dave the Gnome 21 Feb 11 - 01:36 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 21 Feb 11 - 02:17 PM
Dave the Gnome 21 Feb 11 - 02:23 PM
Surreysinger 21 Feb 11 - 03:56 PM
Folkiedave 21 Feb 11 - 04:09 PM
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GUEST,Jon 21 Feb 11 - 04:29 PM
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Subject: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 11:49 AM

Folk progs on the beeb have been dissappearing for ages. I think Radio Manchester was one of the firat to lose it's folk offering in a re-org about 5 years ago. I am sure there were others before and there will be plenty after. That's progess for you, but, in another way progress has given us far more.

Has anyone noticed the proliferation of all things folk and folky, including folk music from all over the world, on digital radio? Even if you don't have a digital radio receiver you can get most, if not all the programmes, via your digital TV. You know, that new technology that meant you had to upgrade your TV or at least get a digibox, ages ago. All people need to do is press the buttons that they never usualy go to - the ones that are not showing East Street Dale Side or whatever the opium of the masses is nowadays:-)

Even if the TV remote button is stuck on visual entertainments there are also plenty of offerings on t'interweb. So, why do people keep whinging about local folk programs vanishing from the old FM or other analogue radios? OK, it's familiar and gives the warm fuzzy feeling, but if you are into local folk then, surely, you should already know, or know someone who does know, what is going on localy. You already know how good English folk is and can find it localy all over the place. Now you also have the choice of listening to folk not just from your town ,county or country, but also folk from other communities in towns, counties and countries all over the world.

That is the real benefit of progress.

DeG


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 02:48 PM

David.
The reason that we are campaigning for the re-instatement of Radio Derbys Folkwaves programme (and various others), is precisely because most of the people listened to it on the good old radio! Most of them would have never heard of the internet, or indeed own a computer....and when digital crossover happens, they won't have a clue about that either! It's fine for the likes of me and you, searching the world on the web for music great and small, but we are still in the minority. Which is why, we must continue to fight for our type of music to be available for everyone, even if they've only got a tranny!
My dear departed Mum, probably couldn't even spell computer, but her bakelite radio in the kitchen (glued to Radio 4) did the job for her!


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 03:54 PM

Fair point, Ralphie, but there is one issue I cannot agree with -

even if they've only got a tranny

Surely, everyone who has only got a tranny will not be able to listen to anything at all soon. As soon as the analogue signals go altogether its either listen to digital or listen to nothing. If that's the case we are not talking about a fight save anyone's favourite programme but a fight against the inevetibale switch.

Your dear departed Mum would not have been able to use the bakelte so, surely, as a favour to everyone in the same position, we need to help them get used to digital as sson as possible. As everyone now has digital (or very soon will) anyway then I don't see an issue.

I was not 'having a go' at your or anyone's fight btw. I was not even aware of anything happening in Derby and, as I said, Radio Manchester lost theirs years ago. No amount of protest stopped it. I am just trying to provide a better alternative that suits everyone.

D.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 08:18 PM

David.
I don't think we disagree at all!
Unlike TV, I don't think analogue radio is going to be turned off for several years. If for no other reason apart from the fact that there aren't enough cheap digital radios for cars as yet! And a lot of radio listening happens in cars.
Check out the Folkwaves group on Facebook to read about the sacking of Mick Peat and Lester Simpson. and replaced by an oldies show featuring Psychic Poodles!
Local radio seems to be committed to getting rid of all specialist music shows. Sad but true.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Surreysinger
Date: 20 Feb 11 - 09:12 PM

David - I'd have to query one or two of your points. You said that there are radio programmes available on digital stations which are accesible by radio, or through the TV. I finally bought a DAB radio a year ago ... but don't listen to it all that much at the moment, as I tend to use other analogue radios in the house. I can also access some digital stations on Freeview through the television. However, the TV is not a satisfactory radio source - I can hardly pick it up and take it through to the kitchen, or into the bathroom etc! Additionally, I have yet to find any programmes on DAB radio or on Freeview which provide any evident folk programming. Can you suggest which stations I should be listening to, as I have yet to find them?

Additionally, I'd disagree that everyone "has digital now" ... probably true for TV, but definitely not for radio in my experience. None of my family or friends (with two exceptions that I'm aware of) is yet the owner of a DAB radio. And several don't yet have computers of any sort either. As to internet listening - I only normally do that when I am working at the computer ... otherwise I am tied down to a specific area of the house if I wish to listen to a full programme.

All of which comes back to the axing of folk radio programmes .. they are an incredibly useful source of information regarding local events. From personal experience I would point out that living in an area does not necessarily mean you know somebody who is aware of the local scene, or indeed, even if you are aware of it, that you necessarily know what is going on. For instance, we have a club in our town which has now been running successfully for five years. One young lady who had been living in the town for several years found out about it purely by chance ... and told us that she wished she had known about it sooner. This despite adverts in the local press, advertising cards seeded in all the expected places, adverts in fRoots etc. There is no real substitute at the moment for a regular radio programme which feeds that sort of information out to a large circle of people.

And I heard today that the dedicated folk programme on Radio Devon, which was taken over by Richard Digance after Jim Causley's short stint at the helm, has also recently been axed ... so that's another one down.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 02:52 AM

Hadn't heard about Radio Devons show being for the chop. Wondering what's left! Genevieve Tudor on Shropshire seems to have managed to hide beneath the parapet. But, as far as English local radio goes....anything else? Also, even if such programmes existed, you won't find them on DAB or Freeview.
And if you think about it, what percentage of the Great British Public have even heard about digital TV, despite saturation advertising on the BBC? And the Beeb still hasn't managed to get 100% transmission coverage across the whole of the UK, and won't be able to, until they switch off Analogue.

Yes of course people like us (and remember I worked in Radio for 30 years) know where to find the odd titbit on the web...(If we can remember the URL, and catch the odd hour or two once a week) but, the majority of radio listeners, have a radio in the kitchen/bathroom/car. And, that is what they listen too. If they want "Folk" they get 1 hour of Mike Harding once a week. That's it.
I used to work on the Ken Bruce show, which had a competition the prize being a DAB radio. One day, a listener in Aberdeen won it, and I said to Ken, well, if he wins another one, they'll make a nice pair of bookends...not much use for anything else for the next few years!

Hence the campaign to try and re-instate Folkwaves on Radio Derby. 2 hours of intelligent chat and music, presented by (you must admit) 2 of the most knowledgable chaps on the English Folk scene and a comprehensive gig guide for all gigs in the East Midlands. In a handy 2 hour chunk on a monday evening. And you could listen in the car too!


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 05:04 AM

If they want "Folk" they get 1 hour of Mike Harding once a week. That's it.

Although the new LJ presenters seem more interested in electronic "music" but I am still hearing a fair bit on Radio 3.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 05:12 AM

Has anyone noticed the proliferation of all things folk and folky, including folk music from all over the world, on digital radio? Even if you don't have a digital radio receiver you can get most, if not all the programmes, via your digital TV. You know, that new technology that meant you had to upgrade your TV or at least get a digibox, ages ago. All people need to do is press the buttons that they never usualy go to - the ones that are not showing East Street Dale Side or whatever the opium of the masses is nowadays:-)

Re TV: What Freeview channels are these Dave? I've not spotted any particularly folk friendly radio stations in the list.

Re DAB: I try a cheap (under £20) Dab/DVD-T USB TV card but I couldn't find many stations. I did consider trying an external Ariel but when I looked at a web page detailing the likely stations I would get, it didn't seem there was much there so I didn't bother.

I've not bothered with DAB otherwise. I've been put off by the cost of the portable sets, lack of clarity in information regarding DAB vs DAB+, finding the only "upgradeable" sets I looked at insist on proprietary operating systems (that is a very big issue to me) to do so and reports that these things require far more power than the old analogue sets.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: rabbitlegs
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 05:18 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/programmes/genres/music/folk/player/episodes

This is a reasonable starting point to find what's still available. I may be dreaming, but seem to remember it being a lot longer than 2 pages.

Living in West Yorks. I can recommend the Durbervilles shows on Radio Leeds.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 05:47 AM

Thanks for that Mr Legs! I will go and look, but it doesn't negate my arguement that most people won't bother. If it's not there when they turn their radio on. It'll just satay tuned to the same station. Anyway, finding anything from local radio on I Player is a nightmare!
And Yes, DAB sets do use more power. and 90% of the stations available I would never listen to. A bit like all the Shopping Channels on Freeview, and the rest of the dross. I have Freeview because pretty soon I'll have to anyway, and also I get BBC4 which has a few pretty good programmes normally on a Friday.
As for Late Junction. Yes it's certainly changed since Verity left. Which is my point. Yes, there are some nuggets hidden away on all the BBC stations, but you'd be lucky to find them by accident!
The joy of Folkwaves was that there were 2 hours of informed chat and good music combined with a whats on guide for Derby, Nottingham and Leicester at the same time every monday. Thus fulfilling the BBC trusts remit for specialist and locally based programming. Now the East Midlands listeners get the Beach Boys and Psychic dogs telling your horoscope (And the dogs are a CD Sound FX CD!)


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Paul Reade
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 06:27 AM

I agree with rabbitlegs and would also recommend the Durbervilles folk and roots programme on Radio Leeds. We can't pick it up here in Lancashire, but you can get it online, either live (http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/leeds/hi/tv_and_radio/) or after the event with BBCiplayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00dvjrp/The_Durbervilles_Gary_Kaye/

You could also check out local community radio stations. In Lancashire there's the Chorley FM folk programme presented by James Blatchley and Liz Calderbank (http://www.chorley.fm/) on Tuesdays 8 - 10 pm


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 06:32 AM

I'd like to address a couple of the points made above.

"Even if you don't have a digital radio receiver you can get most, if not all the programmes, via your digital TV":-   
I've got a digital TV (no other choice where I live) but there is only a certain number of TV and radio channels that it will pick up – many of the TV ones listed as freeview in the TV listings are not accessible (e.g. ITV 3, ITV4, or, thankfully, shopping channels) and there are definitely no folk type radio programmes, just BBC output and a few of "pop" ones. I don't have a DAB radio and I'm unlikely ever to buy one – I don't listen enough to make it worth the outlay. I do admit I'm lucky enough to have the internet and I do listen to some good folk that way but if it weren't for the internet I'd have little or no folk at home. By the way, I agree about the value of Genevieve Tudor's show but no-one seems to have mentioned Johnny Coppin who also has a very good one hour programme on BBC Gloucester.

"if you are into local folk then, surely, you should already know, or know someone who does know, what is going on localy"(sic):-
I do get out quite a bit to sessions and singarounds but I find the folk world very fragmented. I've mentioned on Mudcat before that there are "Irish" sessions that don't like "English" tunes, so the players there don't know about the English tune sessions, and vice versa. The (unaccompanied) singaround attendees don't know about the tune sessions and none of the "traditional" groups know about the "acoustic" ones. I'm quite eclectic and it took me quite a long time to find out about the various "folk" sessions within just a few miles of my home - and I dare say there are some I still don't know about. I do know who is likely to be a guest at my local folk club (5 miles away) but need to look up on various websites who is on at clubs more than 10 miles away. When I lived in the east midlands Folkwaves was a brilliant way of letting me know who might be worth the half hour journey to go to see and to find out about sessions outside my immediate "area".

"Now you also have the choice of listening to folk not just from your town, county or country, but also folk from other communities in towns, counties and countries all over the world":-   
I can't disagree with this. I use the internet quite a bit now for listening and have found some great sources but this does not absolve the BBC of what I consider is its duty to provide some sort of public service information and access to my own (local) culture. Progress should involve adding more to the range of options, not removing some of the good ones and hoping that some other organisation will take up the baton.


So it's not so much that there is a lack of folk music or folk information, it's more that the BBC has failed to live up to its charter and play its own part in providing for its audience. Let's hope they keep failing to notice Genevieve Tudor and Johnny Coppin!!


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,SteveT
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 06:49 AM

Sorry - that last guest was me.

Steve T


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 09:13 AM

Steve T
Mea Culpa. Had forgotten about Mr Coppins show...Can't listen to everything! Hope he keeps his head down too!


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Millindale
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 09:57 AM

Phil Brown has a show on Radio Lancashire ( Friday evening 7 'til 9 )Radio Leeds is my local BBC station but I'm afraid The Durbervilles are not a patch on Mick Peat and Lester Simpson although much preferable to the cr*p that replaced Folkwaves. A phone-in show which nobody bothers phoning and a 'medium' with her psychic poodles. We are being taken for mindless morons by the very radio network which we, supposedly, own.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 10:58 AM

I have a confession. I never listen to radio 'live' except if I'm on holiday, in a tent and the rain is tipping it down -in which case I go sit in the car and listen to the radio....ironically enough that's how I stumbled upon Genevieve's radio show and liked it.

Also I liked it when Jim presented the devon folk show....it was 'young' and 'fresh' to my ears.

I don't listen to mike hardings show coz well...its not my taste in music.

I generally listen online on i-player (or podcast style shows)....its its got the advantage I can listen to stuff at a time that suits me.

Even when I was into pop I didn't listen to the radio much - only if there was an interview I wanted to hear (didn't help I could only get 3 channels if I held the ariel up high.) I think I just I've never found anyone with exactly my taste in music.

How do they tell how many people are listening Ralphie? Does my listening post date online count?


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: rabbitlegs
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 11:03 AM

I occasionally listen to The Drift when time and memory coincide. but only thought it was an hours worth. If it's 2 now then that's a result!

I'll also miss Digance's show. But he's got a few dates in around the summer, so hopefully he's taken time out and (as mentioned elsewhere) could be back. Although you'd have thought someone would be found to stand in if that were the case.

I'm amazed anyone bothered to find out what's replaced Folkwaves (respect!), but it sounds as cheap and nasty as expected! But good for Ralphie and all letting the powers that be know what some of us think! One things for sure, if no one whinges (guilty, apart from an email) they'll just assume they were right. Look at some of the sh*te that gets massive audiences on TV, they can't be blamed for thinking a lot of us like it! The BBC aren't as bad as some. Friday night BBC4 slots for example.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 01:32 PM

LDT. Hello!
It's almost impossible for the measuring chaps to come up with any worthwhile figures for Local radio. RAJAR is their name.
Consequently, the management can make up any figures they like! Nice One!
And to answer your specific question re acknowledgement of you tuning in to a particular programme....No! Unless you are one of the RAJAR contributors.....(In the East Midlands, thats about 300 people!)
Mr Rabbit. I don't listen to the replacement show for fun! It's just a cross that I carry!
And It's complete crap! If I wanted to listen to Mama Cass and Beyonce, I could go elsewhere!
Thanks for sending an E Mail, send another one!
And send messages to BBC4 when they do something good!


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 01:36 PM

Thanks for the previous URL, rabbitlegs. In answer to anyone who wonders which radio channels have the folk programs I suggest they refer to it! It is only lists the BBC but shows that lots of excelent material is on BBC radio Scotland, Wales and Ireland, all of which are available, as far as I am aware, on digital freeview. There are other individual shows on other stations but if people cannot be bothered finding their own I am not going to do the work for them:-)

Addressing the issue of not everyone having digital - yes, I know there are pockets which cannot yet receive them. But in the main my point still stands. In one way or another everyone can get digital radio. If the technology to do so is beyong their years, means or intellect the that is sad, but my point still stands. Everyone can, if they want, get digital radio some way or another.

I like the idea of keeping the analogue signals going though - keep up the good work on that (after all it is tradional :-) ) but please
don't use the excuse that it is the only option when it blatantly isn't.

D.
D.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 02:17 PM

David.
As said before, until the Beeb get their arses in gear to inform people re Digital broadcasting (TV/Radio) then nothing will change. Why bother anyway. There aren't many avenues to explore to discover good music anyway? A bit of BBC4 occasionally on a Friday night, a little bit on Late Junction on R3.....what else?
As far as DAB is concerned. I live in London, perfect DAB reception...If I want to listen to Heart, Kerrang, JazzFM, and lots of other rubbish stations (I could go on but, I'm losing the will to live) then I would.
Folk/World music on the Radio? Don't make me laugh. All there is is the 8 part Human Planet series on Radio 3 2000 on Thursday night with Kershaw/Duran. That's about it.
Episode 7 this week...Good job I've recorded them all.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 02:23 PM

There aren't many avenues to explore to discover good music anyway?

Surely there are a lot more than on the current analogue channels. As I pointed out earlier, what about Radio's Wales, Scotland, Ireland etc. that people have only got access to since the 'digital revolution'. Or maybe the digital whimper considering your point about aunty beeb not letting people know about it :-)

D.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Surreysinger
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 03:56 PM

David - yes the regional BBC programmes are available on BBC Scotland, BBC Cymru etc ... but only if you actually live in those areas. So I in the South of England cannot access any programmes from Wales or Scotland or elsewhere via Freeview or DAB radio locally - so it would appear that unfortunately your original sweeping suggestion that there is a lot of folk music available to us all on those two sources is sadly incorrect.Shame, as I was rather hoping to hear about something that I had somehow overlooked. Obviously, not to be! Ah well ....


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Folkiedave
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 04:09 PM

Blatent self promotion of radio show.

There are programmes around that try and play reasonably up-to-date traditional style music with a local diary and sometimes a diary a bit further afield.

Last week's Thank Goodness It's Folk featured a Sidmouth Festival. interview with Joan Crump and played as many of the artists as I could reasonably squeeze in, and I had a couple of the ceilidh bands on as well. The Sheffield Folk Massif tend to be there in force, so the locals get to hear it anyway and the first leaflets are about to come out.

I post a playlist most weeks on Mudcat.   

As well as 93.2 FM and via the internet - the show is available as a podcast. So no excuses if you have a computer and some time.

The permathread with the playlist from October 2010 is here.

And I forgot to mention Ralphie Jordan has also starred on it with his record "Eloise". And damned good it was too!


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Surreysinger
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 04:21 PM

Except that at that point he was calling it "Songs from the Attic" - just in case that features on your playlistings ... :-)


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: RunrigFan
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 04:25 PM

David - yes the regional BBC programmes are available on BBC Scotland, BBC Cymru etc ... but only if you actually live in those areas

Not if you are on sky freesat :)

The radio stations I play are CuillinFM which is my first choice for music; but I dod listen to Heart as Im a fan other styles not just folk ;)


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 04:29 PM

Surely there are a lot more than on the current analogue channels. As I pointed out earlier, what about Radio's Wales, Scotland, Ireland etc. that people have only got access to since the 'digital revolution'. Or maybe the digital whimper considering your point about aunty beeb not letting people know about it :-)

I could receive RTE 1 & 2 (and obviously Wales) on analogue radio when I lived in North Wales but I can't get them on the digital Freeview or DAB in Norfolk.

I'd guess freesat (we will not have Sky btw) would open up a few more channels but I think it will be some time before we get round to spending money on that here.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: RunrigFan
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 04:39 PM

You can get sky freesat where its the free channels :)


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 05:21 PM

If/ when got round to, I'd be doing it without Sky.

Apart from not wanting to get involved with Sky even for just freesat channels, I'd be paying £175 where I'd only be wanting the dish supplied and set up.

I'd not be using a set top box but using a PC DVB-S tv card and making it a proper part of our existing MythTV setup.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Bernard
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 05:55 PM

Forget the Beeb... Community Radio is alive and kicking, and blessed with folk programmes.

Alio and I used to present the programme Dave mentioned had been axed from BBC Radio Manchester, but this evening we broadcast programme 205 on Oldham Community Radio with studio guests Troubadour, and Emily Smith via telephone - our studio guest next week is Alan Bell...!

Chorley FM also has a flourishing folk programme presented by James Blatchley and Lizzie Calderbank (daughter of Sid).


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Millindale
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 07:13 PM

Rabbitlegs, I apologise for mistakenly extending The Drift to two hours. Another programme worth a listen is Manx Radios John Kaneen folk music program ( found by googling Manx radio. To begin with I was a little unsure about the Radio Devon show with Richard Digance but as time went on I began to enjoy the programme.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 07:21 PM

but only if you actually live in those areas...

and

...so it would appear that unfortunately your original sweeping suggestion that there is a lot of folk music available to us all on those two sources is sadly incorrect.

No, no, no and once again. no. I live in Manchester and can get all afore said radio channels on my TV. To be honest I don't know whether they are on Freeview, Sky or transmitted by magic from Hogwarts school of Wizardry. I couldn't realy give a shit how I get them. The point is - if I, who am obviously a stupid person because I don't understand half these arguments, can get them, anyone can. What is more I can get them all on the internet WHEREVER I AM IN THE UK. What is so difficult about getting the internet? My Mother, who is 80 this year, doesn't understand a bit of it. But I have set up a wifi internet radio for her so she can get her favourite C&W songs. Yes, I know, mothers can be an embarrasment, but at least she can press the right butons:-)

Maybe I am over simplifying but the statement that anyone can receive far more folk music than ever before on digital and internet radio is, as far as I am aware, undisputed. Whether everyone is capable of using the technology in question is not, as far as I am concerned, an argument for saying it does not exist!

D.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: GUEST,Folkiedave
Date: 21 Feb 11 - 07:32 PM

I think Bernard + Chris Sweeney on Hermitage Folk

http://www.hermitagefm.com/#/hermitagefolk/4544635680

Johnny Adams on Phoenix Radio

http://www.phoenixfm.co.uk/programmes.htm

Tim Moon in Bradford etc etc etc all have listenable programmes devoted to the broad definition that is folk - on radio. And I know there are loads of others.

What we all have in common is that we need listeners who are happy to feedback their thoughts.

If by any chance you are a billionaire - we could all do with some money too I guess.


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: rabbitlegs
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 04:33 AM

Oh 'eck Millindale, I preferred your 2 hour version while it lasted!

Googled the Manx one but it comes as a wma file and I listen to a lot of the stuff on listen again at work whilst on a mac, so need an app., or I've recently bought a PC for home (can't afford macs at home any more!) so I'll give it a go there! Play lists look very good though!

Collecting up all these Community ones as well Folkiedave! But these, of course, you do need a computer for, as you mentioned earlier. Once played on a show called Foxes Den on Vixen FM and wondered how many people in the local area were actually listening, yet we got feedback from Norway, Australia and USA, crazy!

They got loads of CDs sent in from Norwegian metal bands! Nowt wrong with a bit of 'eadbanging now and then! It was a giggle - imagine the headbanging in the car scene from Wayne's World, (it wasn't a big studio and there were 6 of us in there!).


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Subject: RE: Folk Music on the Radio - UK
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 22 Feb 11 - 04:55 AM

Just thought I'd mention Wayland Radio 107.3 . Dave Cooper's Folk programme is on Sunday 7.00pm to 9.00pm. (Liz and I are on it on 20th March)
waylandradio.com


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