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Advice On My Site and Music (David Shevelew)

David Shevelew 01 Mar 11 - 02:18 PM
Leadfingers 01 Mar 11 - 02:28 PM
GUEST,Martin Dardis 01 Mar 11 - 04:05 PM
treewind 01 Mar 11 - 06:08 PM
olddude 01 Mar 11 - 06:11 PM
GUEST 01 Mar 11 - 06:57 PM
GUEST,Jon 01 Mar 11 - 07:19 PM
Jack Campin 01 Mar 11 - 08:24 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 01 Mar 11 - 10:15 PM
The Fooles Troupe 02 Mar 11 - 12:15 AM
The Fooles Troupe 02 Mar 11 - 09:25 PM
David Shevelew 03 Mar 11 - 03:38 AM
GUEST,Desi C 03 Mar 11 - 01:53 PM
treewind 03 Mar 11 - 02:35 PM
Will Fly 03 Mar 11 - 02:52 PM
GUEST,Jon 03 Mar 11 - 03:16 PM
GUEST,pattyClink 03 Mar 11 - 09:53 PM
katlaughing 03 Mar 11 - 10:51 PM
David Shevelew 04 Mar 11 - 04:30 AM
GUEST,Jon 04 Mar 11 - 05:10 AM
GUEST,Nick E 04 Mar 11 - 08:37 PM
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Subject: Advice On My Site and Music
From: David Shevelew
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 02:18 PM

Hi there,

First post so...

I have just launched my site as well as my attempts to go somewhere with my music. Any advice/ constructive criticism on my site:

www.davidshevelewmusic.com

as well as the music or anything else would be much appreciated.

I couldn't get it to link so you have to copy and paste the website address.

Thanks in Advance

David Shevelew


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 02:28 PM

Clickie


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: GUEST,Martin Dardis
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 04:05 PM

I found the text on the gigs page very hard to read, way too small.
Also it's not good to have the music auto. play.
I might be good to have the navigation on top instead of bottom.
Otherwise the site is fine.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: treewind
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 06:08 PM

The navigation buttons don't work for me properly.
They show as plain white rectangles.
Only when I move the mouse over them do they briefly flash a faint legend.
All pages load slowly (masses of flash media being downloaded?)
I agree about autoplaying music but it didn't autoplay for me.

Google Chrome 5.0.3, Debian Linux

Call me old fashioned, but I like sites in HTML and CSS that just come straight up on the screen and work. This is full of Javascript and Flash scripts that make it slow and seem to achieve nothing.

Also, joining Mudcat apparently just to promote your music isn't going to earn you the most respect around here.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: olddude
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 06:11 PM

All worked for me just fine, by the way Brown Beret ... wonderful
did you write it ? great voice great production ...

awesome site, nice layout ...


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 06:57 PM

I didn't join to promote my music but asking opinions of other musicians/folk aficionados seemed like a good idea.

I'm sorry 'treewind', that the site did not load properly and that i used flash but i built it myself on a budget. I've had no problems with it loading with Chrome, Safari or Firefoxbut i'll look into it.

And yes 'olddude' i did write Brown Beret, it is the first song i ever wrote.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 07:19 PM

Music doesn't auto play here but it seems as if you might have added "speaker buttons" since the start of the thread. These buttons work for me on OpenSuse (Linux)/Firefox 3.6.13

Pages can be slow to load and it seemed a lot of time was taken with "mediawix.com".

I don't like having to scroll up and down your panels with text to read them.

I'm not fond of the different fonts on different pages.

Overall, I'd be another who would suggest a simpler approach.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: Jack Campin
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 08:24 PM

Runs like a drain on my system. Ridiculously overcomplicated, and most of the complication seems more aimed at concealing the information than presenting it.

This is Anahata's site. Loads FAR faster and tells you what you need to know (or perhaps, what he thinks you need to know) a lot more effectively. Look at his code to see how he did it. You don't need to spend money to do the same.

http://www.maryanahata.co.uk/

It would help to spell Bert Jansch right if you're going to cite him as an influence.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 Mar 11 - 10:15 PM

I am NOT an idiot - just simple.

Anyone that "clicks" to "refresh their experience" deserves anything they receive.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Unfortuntely, the membrain of a "keyboard condom" does not also cover their brain.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Mar 11 - 12:15 AM

Don't be upset by The Gargoyle - he's our Resident Refugee from Bedlam.


Hi Garg! :-)


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Mar 11 - 09:25 PM

Thought I'd take a look.

Got as far as a black screen, which meant I had to allow access to 'wix.com' (which I assume has something to do with the scripting) - then I get a white screen in a black border. No progress - 'done'.

Firefox 3.6.14 on Ububuntu.

Sorry.

Of course I do have a lot of blocking of 'nasty sites that inject all sorts of nasties' - so if your site needs some of those

1) I'll never be able to get there

2) those who do get there may be subject to attacks.

Can't help you more, sorry.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: David Shevelew
Date: 03 Mar 11 - 03:38 AM

Hmmmm

Wix.com is a web design website that allows you to build websites and then transfer them to an independent domain

So my site is built on wix as a flash site and the hosted by a domain name and supplier. Never had the sight not load at all. I will get in touch with their tech support me thinks.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 03 Mar 11 - 01:53 PM

I couldn't get the navigation buttons to work either, just froze on me, didn't see any link to samples of your musuc which I'd hope to see. Hope you get it sorted, good luck


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: treewind
Date: 03 Mar 11 - 02:35 PM

"This is Anahata's site."

Some of the HTML code on that is very old and I wouldn't have done it the same way now.

What may not be obvious is that it's written in PHP, so the repetitive bits i.e. the headings and navigation menus are done by having every page include a common file with functions in it. It means that if I add a new page, I have to change just one file and the menu button for it appears on every page.

The merchandise purchase stuff is obviously done by PHP too.

Anahata


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Mar 11 - 02:52 PM

David - the site looks very modern, cool and professional. Might I just add an observation? Modern web sites by professional designers are very clever - the only danger that can come along, if you're not careful, is a triumph of style over substance. In other words, the outward appearance and impression from the site is very good, but some of the functionality and technical gizmos either overpower what's actually contained therein, or conceal the fact that there may not be very much there. This is not implying that your site is like that, but you might like to take note of the fact that some 'Catters, obviously with very varied computers, are having different experiences!

I too have a web site - entirely designed and written by me - and I can confess to you that I have very little technical knowledge. I can just about get my head around a .css style sheet! So my pages are very old-fashioned and simplistic. What I've aimed for is to make the information about me and what's on my site - and therefore what people can get from it - as clear as possible. You can see it here:

Will Fly - Musician

I'm sure the site is not perfect - far from it - and professional designers would probably laugh their socks off looking at it - but it at least has some simplicity and clarity (I hope!).

I think I'm suggesting, in a roundabout way, that a little less technical wizardry and a bit more interesting stuff about you or by you would be an improvement. But, in the end, you have to do things your way - so all the very best with what you do!


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 03 Mar 11 - 03:16 PM

Very nice site, Will.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: GUEST,pattyClink
Date: 03 Mar 11 - 09:53 PM

Well, you're probably sick of all the criticism by now, but you did ask!

My only problems were the truly annoying patterned background behind the text, and the 'make me scroll up and down a lot just to read a few paragraphs' thing. The graphic is a nice little piece of art, but I just can't stand trying to read over it.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Mar 11 - 10:51 PM

I had no trouble with it loading and I note that each song can be stopped and one can forward to the next one quite easily. I did find it a bit overdone, graphics-wise. I also didn't like that I can't open any of your other pages independently, so that I might read your bio or whatever whilst still listening to your songs on the other page, i.e. allow one to open each link in a new window.

If I were you, I'd try to rework the whole thing to be not so busy and definitely easier, consistent larger fonts, and, sorry to say, less of the same photos of you.

I wish you well. You have come to a place of folks with tons of experience, both as musicians and as programmers, so I am sure you'll get lots more advice.

Thanks for sharing your music,

kat


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music (David Shevelew)
From: David Shevelew
Date: 04 Mar 11 - 04:30 AM

I really do appreciate the advice that has been given. Some things are out of my control, i.e the ability to open multiple pages in different tabs. To address this i have put speakers on each page that if you click on them will play the same playlist as the media page.

I agree about the background and i hope the new one is easier on the eye, it certainly is less patterned. I also agree about the photos, as soon as i have more/ different photos i will change some of them over so there not the same snow themed ones.

Im not sure about the scrolling option for the bio and news. The news scroll will get longer as more news is added but im don't know whether it would be better to have large font for the bio and a scroll bar or smaller font in one block or text?


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music (David Shevelew)
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 04 Mar 11 - 05:10 AM

It's still way too slow here. I hadn't noticed you were using all caps in the bio/news before but I don't like that.

The scrolling may just be me. I suppose I'd prefer moving the links to the top or to the left and have the whole page scroll down with the browsers scroll bar.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music (David Shevelew)
From: GUEST,Nick E
Date: 04 Mar 11 - 08:37 PM

What a nice bunch of people. One with a question then so many helpfull people. Well done all.


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music (David Shevelew)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Mar 11 - 11:45 PM

Still get nowhere - it tries to load flash stuff from 'static.wix.com' and then dies.

My Fooles Troupe & home site was written in pure HTML in a slightly advanced form of plain text editor (like Notebook) and has over 100 pages in about 3 1/2 Mb - including sound and graphics files, divided into several different concept sections. There is no fancy scripting or .css or flash. It can be done. :-)

Some may think it has dated, but I think is is clear and plain and no difficulty in reading text, and suits the styles of what each section wanted to say. It did get a fair bit of positive comment from people who have sight disabilities, and even those who need braile or text to speech converters.

The only real negative is that it still does auto play sound file, but hey, that's what The Fooles wanted at the time .... Check out their 'house' - lots of cute and clever plain HTML stuff...


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Subject: RE: Advice On My Site and Music (David Shevelew)
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 05 Mar 11 - 05:10 AM

Not keen on the look of your site... but that's more about my own taste and preferences than anything else. I'm just glad of sites like Weebly that make web design so easy for people like me who know nothing about web design. Here are mine as examples of what you can do with Weebly: Lost Folk Tapes and Folk Police Recordings.

Enjoyed listening to your music, though. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.


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