BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 15 Mar 11 - 10:58 AM

Thanks for the elocution lesson Ray!

Reminds me of the joke Tony Capstick used to tell about the Irish lads who robbed a bank in Barnsley...

I also recall your choice verbal reaction to being given out egg before wicket at Stainsby many years ago.. That didn't need any interpretation, despite being pure Barnsley!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 15 Mar 11 - 06:03 AM

I hope your work goes OK. Up to 3 or 4 years ago after the January rush to meet the tax return deadline, things were quiet here for a while but not any more.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Mar 11 - 04:17 AM

Glad to see you're all still having fun with this thread.

I'm afraid I won't be coming out to play for a while due to an increased workload and family commitments (wouldn't life be very dull without our kids, eh?)

Play nicely while I'm away.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 05:09 PM

I shouldn't think the Conservatives are the least bit bothered if they speak like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 12:19 PM

I am available to speak Barnsley or write it as required!
Dee Daa is of course Sheffield accent equivalent to Thee Thaa in Barnsley

We do still say thee and thaa in Barnsley being the "tu" form of you,

" Weer are thaa goin? I'm off t'tahn"

Where are you going? I am going to town.

Where are thaa bahn [bound]? Where are you going?
Ray

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 10:40 AM

Hi Willy

My grand-father worked at the Elsecar pit. He retired when it closed. By the time I was "a twinkle in my father's eye" my parents had moved to Cheshire.
We used to go on holiday to my Gran's at Elsecar – yes we did !!! I learned to swim in the lake in Elsecar Park.
I couldn't understand much of what my grandparents were saying due to their "Barnsley Brogue".

Grand-dad played cornet in the Elsecar Pit Band and I used to go with him and watch them practice in the pub sometimes.
I see that the Elsecar pit site is now an antiques centre and has been featured a few times on BBC's Bargain Hunt programme.

I agree with you about the By-Elections being notoriously difficult to use as prediction for a General Election. But you wouldn't have to be a political genius to have predicted a Labour victory.
But not many (any ??) political correspondents predicted Libdems to come 6th !!!!
Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 09:14 AM

I can go some way to answering that.

When Elsecar Pit shut, many of the lads came down to work at the pit where I worked.

I recall asking a bloke to stop talking for a moment whilst I got out my Collins English - Dee Daa, Dee Daa - English Phrase book.

he said "Stop lakin' abaat or I'll bray thee kite."

I said, "Excuse me, could you repeat that in my indigenous language please?"

Anyway, by the time I got up again, he had buggered off down the gate. Managed to soak him fully clothed with a hose pipe as he came out of the baths though.

Happy days. (Explaining my shiner to the wife took some doing mind.)

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 07:46 AM

I wonder how the Barnsley accent is written!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 07:09 AM

Sorry & all that, but I just cant get excited one way or another.

It was a by election. These are a sideshow bit of entertainment to provide commentators with something to talk about. Nothing more, nothing less.

Come the next election, the result of this constituency will count, or if it affected an otherwise hung parliament it would have counted.

But it didn't.

And it was Barnsley.

So the result was known before the ballot.

Back to reality?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 03:48 AM

O I thought this said Condoms get a kicking in Barnsley, which is correct of course

I am not going to add to this debate, or am I?

1 Labour in Govt were unable to control bank and mortgage lending, Governor of Bank of England totally right
2 We the people paid for Estate agents fees, Conveyance fees, Bank (High St) and Build Society fees, house repossessions which became unsustainable thro inflated house prices which will take 10 years at least to recover as well as unwise bank lending
3 As an investor I a receiving NOTHING in interest, should I not be receiving at least enough to cover inflation? I am on a fixed income (pension) on my savings??
4 Pension savings (Stock exchange and Shares holdings) are NOT wise investments and WE should not be asked to participate in the vagaries of such investments. A GOVERNMENT backed Pensions savings vehicle is needed ( a bit too early yet as UK in big trouble)
5 UK Education is and always has been a big fiddle ~ simply shifting unemployment for 14 to 16 to 18 to 21 (Olevels/GCSEs/A levels/Degrees) with the "graduates" expectations rising still ending uop pushing brushes for nowt
6 EMA is therefore a form of unemployment benefit (sorry was)
7 Job creation and wealth thro industry was written off during the Thatcher years and continues to diminish
8 Barnsley (for those living here like me) is a totally working class town, mining, sewing factories, old glass works, hot water bottles, paper mill all part of what was industry here now long gone. Note no mills so no Asian people to speak of ~ 1% of population from ethnic minorites for many years
9 BNP fed and feed upon the fears brought by the influx of Eastern Block refugees and UKraine, Azebyjain, etc (sorry about the spelling) These peope look just like us but dont speak Barnsley. Now the problem I see is that UK Govt and Local Authorities have failed to explain about these Eastern block imigrees and why they are here and in particular in Barnsley (I make no political point here! just the facts)
10 So the good people of Barnsley having seen working class jobs go are worried? of course and have others vying for their jobs, so no wonder BNP and UKIP start to geta foothold in Barnsley and that is why Mr Carman the Lib Dem thinks we in Barnsley are racist (I spoke to him during the election outside M&S by the way) I said NOTHING!!
Ray

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 13 Mar 11 - 02:29 PM

Bonzo, how is your cold ? do you still have that nasty chest Hoff ?

Hope it clears up.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 13 Mar 11 - 02:16 PM

Sod it I give up reading through this. If I've missed some valuable debate then please do tell, since I mostly see Tory vs Labour rubbish which gets less and less entertaining to read.

Tories are not a hateful race, who must be destroyed at all costs. I am willing to believe that several people in the party are sensible and are good MPs (I'll get back to that in a minute). One of my friends is a Tory and accepts that there are errors and faults, and that Labour did do some good things.

Labour are not a hateful race, who must be destroyed at all costs. They have made some mistakes, but they have done some good. I struggle to think of things because of how limited my politcal memory is (I only started to pay attention about 2 years ago).

Liberals are not a hateful race, who must be destroyed at all costs. Assuming the Uni Paper lets me, I plan to write about the fact that I would vote LD if I were at home, but not if I'm still here in Sheffield. Why? The Lib Dem candidate for Eccles is a decent man, who doesn't respond with 2 pages of statistics or insult Labour. Nick Clegg on the other hand, I cannot trust to do what is best for his constituancy.

Benefits are broken. However, I know of people on EMA who would not have been able to get to college without it, in some cases having to forgo it so that their parents had money to buy food. There are people who are getting it who don't deserve it, and I was incensed to find that those on EMA got a bonus for showing up to their exams. That's what I call a bribe.

Just had a glance up and see "It's interesting, as I think all will agree, just how agressive some of these raving lefties can be when others don't agree with their political views. Those of us more inclined towards Conservative ideas are wholly tolerant of the views of others. " I think I'll just sigh.

Long and short of it is that both of the sides here are getting nowhere so shut up.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 07:46 PM

C'mon Dickie - why be bashful about yourself?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 11:47 AM

Play them videos of Adele - 20 seconds is enough to make them talk, especially when she talks......achhhhhhh hideous!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 07:07 AM

I was just reading that use of torture in interrogations in Guantanamo Bay now includes playing video's. Officials there said they have had 100% success using this new technique. Two minutes into the video, most suspects confessed to everything.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHRL55F_6M&feature=related

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Alan whittle
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 06:13 AM

'The legacy of the Labour Government got us into this complete and utter mess.'

The thig is Richie, with the best will in theworld. Do you think this shit convinces anyone with an IQ above that of a hat at the Tory conference. After all, the Daily mail cames out with it every day. they have give most of the copies away. most people, if they get it for the free dvd, chuck the rest of it away. See what the biggest unsold pile of newspapers is at tesco everyday.

Frankly no. I don't think most Libdem voters imagined the present situation. they imagined a Labour/Dem alliance, with Brown (more honourable but less politcally savvy than his predecessor) giving some serious ground up on electoral reform.

ER is the culprit behind all our probs. It hardwires short termism into all the major parties. so when they start an initiative on education, defence or whatever -its always cheap nasty, built on the hope of electoral advantage and bullshit catchphrases.

the present crisis reminds one of the time in the 1970's when OPEC first got oil prices organised. then, as now there wasn't a cigarette paper between the main parties on the big issues of how to deal with the problem. So beam yourself down from whatever planet you seem to be on, and join up with the adult world that most of us are shafted with.

that is , unless you're just enjoying yourself pissing people off. In which case, I'll stop reading these threads.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 08:45 PM

Is that supposed to remind us of a well-known song?

Go on Dickie - record it and show us the vid.

Even funnier than your political analyses.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 07:08 AM

One of my favourites,

If you all will shut your trap,
I will tell you 'bout a chap,
That was broke and up against it too,
He was not the kind to shave,
He was not the type to bathe,
But he heard the same old story everywhere.
Chorus
Tramp, tramp, tramp, keep on a-tramping,
Nothing doing here for you;
If I catch you 'round again,
You will wear the ball and chain,
Keep on tramping, that's the best thing you can do.
He walked up and down the street,
Till the shoes fell off his feet.
In a house he spied a lady cooking stew,
And he said, "How do you do,
May I convey some legal paperwork for you?"
What the lady told him made him feel so blue.
'Cross the street a sign he read,
"Singing lessons" so it said,
And he said, "Here is my chance, I'll surely try,"
And he tried to sing as he had done before,
Till his throat got rather sore,
But at bar-time he heard the Inn keeper cry–
Some time ago your guitar and vocals went bye bye.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 06:44 AM

Not convinced Dickie. Running Scared - hey, there's a song in there (with apologies to Johnny Preston)!

Running Scared
Loved little rich girls
Thought the poor
Should starve and die
Thought the answer
To their problems
Was that only
Rich should lie

with the background chant of

Starve the   scroungers
Starve the   scroungers


Anyone want a go at the second verse?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 06:39 AM

Not yesterday, we have placed a large rake at the point of entry with prongs facing outward until we get some more prickle strip for the top of the fence.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 06:32 AM

Is the fox still visiting you Bonzo ? Here in Mottram St Andrew, we had an old fox visit our garden for years. Very grey around the mouth, the children called it Hoff.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 05:57 AM

"Not in the least, Bozo. I's one of my relaxations exposing deviants like you. Why are you not telling us why you are so keen to see people's flickr pages? What is it that you are hiding?"

It's interesting, as I think all will agree, just how agressive some of these raving lefties can be when others don't agree with their political views. Those of us more inclined towards Conservative ideas are wholly tolerant of the views of others.

Flickr??? Please feel free to look at the bonzo page, there are just a few photos at the moment, nothing special as I'm a late learner.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 04:45 AM

Hello Bridge, I will give you a clue. My name is Richard Black, known as Richie as my late father was also called Richard.

Hope this helps, how is the head this morning ?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 03:58 AM

"I laugh again - I think leveller is getting annoyed!!! "

Not in the least, Bozo. I's one of my relaxations exposing deviants like you. Why are you not telling us why you are so keen to see people's flickr pages? What is it that you are hiding?



"Leveller, tell me who would you like to see in number 10 ?"

Well, my heart says Caroline Lucas but I can see that that is not realistic at the moment. In the future, who knows? So, I think at this point in time I'd have to say Ed Milliband although I'd like to see a bit more of how he performs as leader of the opposition. Don't assume, in your usual arrogant way, that this implies that I support all of the policies of the Labour Party. I do, however, think that it is returning closer to its grass roots. The stance of all the major parties on civil liberties is still extremely worrying.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 08:21 PM

Come on Dickie Noir. Post your identity.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:05 PM

Bridge, you really are losing it. I take it this is drink talking. I DO NOT hide behind any pseudonym. I can pm you personal details if so required.

"If there was one using a colourable imitation of any name or persona of mine"
God you are so far up your own arse, why the hell would anyone want to imitate you ?

Seriously, your late night posts are an embarrassment.

Mr. Bridge, you would not drive a car while under the influence of alcohol (I hope)
Include late night phone calls, emails and forum posts to that list.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:48 PM

1. I have not got and have never had a flickr page. If there was one using a colourable imitation of any name or persona of mine it was a fake created by that blackshirted political party. Funny you know about that Bozo.

2. Blackshirt - you seem to have no perspective. The liberties that Brown permitted to the banks were all concessions to conservative opposition and sweeteners to those who would otherwise have voted conservative - and were wholeheartedly supported by the conservatives whose only complaints were that they did not go further. The legacy we face is not a legacy of socialism but of capitulation to conservatism and to free market capitalism.

3. The Old Etonians would cuddle further up to the banks than New Labour ever did. If New Labour permitted a problem, then the Old Etonians would actively precipitate a catastrophe. But in fact New Labour did no worse than be caught on the hop by the selfish incompetent venality of the other Old Etonians (and US retreads) who ran the banks. If Mervyn King can see this, why can't you (oh, I forgot, he is relatively bright but you are a total dimshit)?

4. Both of you twerps forget that I do indeed know the ways of the old Etonians, the old Harrovians, the Roffensians, the other public schools against whom I played fives, played hockey, played cricket, and shot. Ironic that you tug the forelock.

5. What is hardly surprising is that you cannot understand the difference between money and class or right and wrong.

6. It is also unsurprising that you hide behind pseudonyms, but I use my real name.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 05:48 PM

Leveller, tell me who would you like to see in number 10 ?

Why do you and Catweasel pick on Bonzo ?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 04:51 PM

I laugh again - I think leveller is getting annoyed!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 04:26 PM

Well Mr Blackshirt, I'm afraid we're never going to agree on the causes of the crisis - history will be the judge of that. As to the solution, well there are more than one available and this government has chosen the one this is likely to cause the most damage.

"Labour supporters such as you, blinkered and bigoted, continue to come out with this rubbish in Labour's defence."

As I've already pointed out if you could be arsed to get your head out of the sand, I am not and never have been a New Labour supporter - I've been a particular critic of their anti-libertarian policies - so it's totally pointless to try to have a discussion with someone who constantly distorts the facts as you do. As for bigoted - now that really is the pot calling the kettle black (oops, no pun intended). Time for you to go off and polish your jackboots, I think


"Bozo, is that another admission, this time of linkage to the moronic sociopaths responsible for fake flickr pages and similar things?"

Richard, I have to say that I think there's something very sinister about Bozo's infatuation with other people's photographs. I used to think that he was just a harmless fantasist who augmented his sad little life by inventing Walter Mitty scenarios. Now I'm beginning to think that he's some sort of perv who gets a vicarious pleasure (I wouldn't want to imagine what) from peeping into other people's lives. Let's put it this way, I wouldn't be comfortable thinking that he might be leching over photos of my wife and daughters. Ugh! It's enough to make your flesh creep.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 03:59 PM

Leveller, ALL SERVICES will face cutbacks. You really are missing the point. The legacy of the Labour Government got us into this complete and utter mess.

If you want to know who is to blame, it was Brown – first whilst in No 11 and then disastrously in No 10

It was Brown, as chancellor who allowed the banks to take more and more risk with OUR money.
It was Brown who allowed the formation of all these banks "too big to be allowed to fail"
It was Brown who, despite being in a boom, spent more than we were bringing in in tax.
It was Brown who, showing his utter incompetence in understanding the facts about economic policies, gave us boom, boom, borrow and bankrupt!

Don't start blaming the condems for Labour's incompetence.
And don't go saying "it was a global problem" -the boom was as global as the bust, but I see double standards of the worst kind: Everything that goes right is down to Labour, everything wrong is "global" – pathetic.

The reason we were so badly hit was down to Brown cuddling up with the banks knowing full well that the reserves were not sufficient but equally knowing that they had become so big that we, the tax payers, would have to bail them out when it all went pear…


Remember the 10p tax fiasco? Anyone with a GCSE in maths could tell that that was always going to prejudice the low earners.
He betrayed his office, the country and the people. Even worse, he claims to be a socialist: New Labour did absolutely nothing for the working class other than condemn them to a fate of minimum wage.

Labour supporters such as you, blinkered and bigoted, continue to come out with this rubbish in Labour's defence.


As for you Bridge, utter nonsense is all you contribute.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 02:17 PM

You really can't read, can you Blackhead?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 01:24 PM

Well the usual brainless idiocy from Bozo who hasn't the intelligence or the initiative to put forward any form of argument when confronted with hard facts. Back to your bedsit, Bozo, you really are a straw dog.

Blackie, you're completely and, I expect, deliberately missing the point I'm making. Why, in this time of unarguable economic recession, brought upon us by the greedy financiers, should the weakest and most vulnerable be the first to suffer, closely followed by those who provide us with essential services, such as the police, fire brigade etc? Whilst, at the same time, those who got us into this mess (bankers) receive obscene bonuses? Presumably, from your comments, you think it's perfectly acceptable that essential care programmes to those with mental difficulties, the very old and the ill, and for programmes that are trying to get people into work should be amongst the first to be affected?

Please tell us, is this what you believe - becasue this is what is happening under a government composed largely of the privileged, the wealthy and the out of touch?

Now that is reality - not what it happening in Bozo and Blackshirt world.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:57 AM

Thanks Will, sorry thick thumbs today !

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:43 AM

coetaneous simply means "of the same duration".

I think the word you're searching for is cutaneous.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 10:38 AM

Occasionally everyone is guilty of thread drift, but I see Bridge is into the realms of fantasy. What the hell are you talking about, and what has this to do with this thread ?

Possibly a case of vulgaris (also known as Barbers itch, and Sycosis barbae) is a coetaneous condition characterized by a chronic infection of the bearded region causing madness.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 09:37 AM

Oh, apart from the earlier admissions of pure selfishness, Bozo, is that another admission, this time of linkage to the moronic sociopaths responsible for fake flickr pages and similar things?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 09:23 AM

He's got the hump because flickr closed his page down!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 08:43 AM

Is that you have to offer to this debate ? Ah just admit defeat Catweasel.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 08:12 AM

Can't you read, or don't you know the difference between "I know" and "I know of"?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:56 AM

Well, I'm just thinking about having fun!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:34 AM

"I know one solicitor", I know one barrister" "I am friendly with a judge" "I recall at Cambridge" "I recall when I……" Boringgggggggggggg

We are sick of "All our yesterdays" Catweasel. Cut out this working class hero who rubs shoulders with the rich and famous crap.

So what do you want, Labour back in Government to finish off the country ? Get the hair out of your ears and eyes old boy. They had their chance and we are now having to pay for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:22 AM

...record youth unemployment... Unemployment benefits should only be paid to those that have worked and paid into the system...

Do you see the lack of joined-up thought here? The bulk of unemployed youth are between 16 and 24 - and presumably the prevalence of unemployment in that sector is owing to their leaving education and unable, as yet to get a job.

So - they can't have paid into the unemployment benefit system through not yet being able to work and would consequently - under your diktat - receive nothing through no fault of their own.

Starving on the streets is obviously OK. After all, they'll be looked after by the millions (how many millions?) of illegal immigrants who will also get no money and will also be sleeping rough. You'll be stepping over them in the street. Don't trip.

Why don't you do as Poirot does, and use your little grey cells for a moment, instead of braying about what MUST and MUSTN'T be done. Just think about society and how it's to develop sensibly - or do you believe, like a previous incumbent of No. 10 - that there's "no such thing as society"?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 07:18 AM

Tinfoil hat time! Bozo and Dickie Noir you are not only offensive, you are irrational.

First, there is an argument whether the markets should be pandered to as such.
Second, the depth of cuts is dangerously over-aggressive on any sensible measure and risk creating worse problems than no cuts at all or lesser cuts.
Third, targetting those cuts at those least able to bear them is not only inhuman it is irrational in that it should be easier to collect from those best able to bear.
Fourth, cutting rather than taxing and spending is unwise indeed given the recessionary risks.
Fifth, as even Mervyn King has said (although not quite in these words) those most to blame should bear the greatest burden - and that is the banks and the bankers now trousering even and ever fatter bonusses as reward for their attacks on society and humanity.

It would be poetic justice should you two have to live out your lives on the pittance that the condems would leave for benefits. It can happen even to the rich. I know of one solicitor who retired to the Channel Islands (and you two probably know how much axle grease that takes) thinking himself set up for life and then lost the lot to unwise investments and the Thatcherite recession.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:33 AM

Well said Bonzo.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:23 AM

I laugh at the very predictable quindering on this thread from all the usual lefties!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 06:20 AM

Leveller, let's get real for a moment. This country is in a mess. Yes cuts have to be made, we must reduce the debt. The Labour party, have all but destroyed this nation and its economy. Their legacy is one of record youth unemployment, millions of 'illegals' and a national debt far bigger than that of Greece. Partly thanks to them, England alone is now the third most densely populated nation on the planet; with South Korea and Bangladesh the only countries in a worse state.

Political expediency will prevent any government taking the tough measures that need to be enacted in the short term. I think the challenge will come in five to ten years when the structural deficits hit the western economies like a tsunami. The pain is going to be very real indeed as a public that have been bought by political parties have to be weaned off the teat.

Firstly there has to be a realisation that foreign arrivals MUST not receive any financial support in the UK, this would include health services, education and housing. The health system itself will need to rationalise back to preventative and primary care only, cosmetic and reproductive services are not necessities and should therefore be provided only by charities or private means. Unemployment benefits should only be paid to those that have worked and paid into the system, likewise with pensions. Slash the public sector back to essential services only.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 05:06 AM

Why 'well said', Blackie? Are you denying that these cuts are taking ploace or are you such a selfish twat that you simply don't care? Or maybe it's just that you're as big an idiot as Bozo.

Please tell us.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 04:31 AM

Well said Bonzo.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Mar 11 - 03:52 AM

Well said leveller.