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AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)

GUEST,Helen Roche 22 Mar 11 - 02:11 PM
Leadfingers 22 Mar 11 - 08:45 PM
BanjoRay 23 Mar 11 - 05:18 AM
reggie miles 23 Mar 11 - 05:43 AM
TopcatBanjo 23 Mar 11 - 07:45 AM
GUEST,Helen Roche 23 Mar 11 - 08:29 AM
Fortunato 23 Mar 11 - 08:31 AM
GUEST,Hootenanny 23 Mar 11 - 08:53 AM
GUEST,Helen Roche 23 Mar 11 - 01:33 PM
GUEST,Helen Roche 23 Mar 11 - 01:35 PM
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Subject: BS: Guitar Workshop, July, Salisbury
From: GUEST,Helen Roche
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 02:11 PM

Here's all the lowdown:

Upcoming this July, an American Roots Guitar Weekend:
Country blues, ragtime, Jazz – Weekend Workshop
with Woody Mann and Duck Baker.

July 1st – 3rd, 2011 – Salisbury, United Kingdom

Woody Mann and Duck Baker, known through their touring, recordings, books, and instructional DVD's, have been teaching guitar workshops throughout the world for over two decades. Together, their music covers a wide spectrum of styles and sounds. The Salisbury weekend is a hands-on practical session focusing on the acoustic guitar styles of country blues, ragtime and Jazz guitar.
In addition to teaching new repertoire and techniques, the goal is to offer students fresh ideas and new approaches to keep them on track long after the workshop is over.
£250 Pounds Sterling (Accommodation not included)

Location:
Milford Hall Hotel
206 Castle Street, Salisbury
Wiltshire SP1 3TE
t: 01722 417 411

For more details about the weekend:
http://duckbaker.com/archives/1116

Queries to duckbaker@earthlink.net
To register:
http://www.duckbaker.com/workshops/registration


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 08:45 PM

ONLY £250 for a weekend ?? PLUS accomodation ??


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: BanjoRay
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 05:18 AM

That's a total rip off. Our Gainsborough fiddle and banjo workshops in November with Dave Bing and Gerry Milnes from West Virginia cost half that, INCLUDING accommodation and food.

Ray


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: reggie miles
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 05:43 AM

HALF THAT! That's a total rip off!

I'll teach ya how to (A) make a million dollars a year, by flexing and bowing a piece of razor sharp spring steel betwixt yer knees, with the pointy parts mere millimeters away from (B) body parts both near and dear and I can do so in (C) five minutes or less, for F-R-E-E! You won't even need accommodations or food!

(Disclaimer: (A) Start out with two million dollars. (B) Many body parts don't grow back. (C) Actual time may vary.)


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: TopcatBanjo
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 07:45 AM

That does seem extremely expensive compared to similar group tuition events. £250 for two days of tuition (Sat 10am-6pm and Sun 10am-5pm according to the site). It's also not clear exactly how much time within that is allocated to classes - I can't imagine it's going to be 7 or 8 hours solid teaching time.

By comparison the tuition element of the Sore Fingers Bluegrass Week is £240 - for FIVE days of group classes, around 4.5 hours per day. Top bluegrass and old time musicians come over from the US to teach each year. This year's tutors include Jim Hurst teaching guitar, Tony Trischka teaching bluegrass banjo, Matt Flinner teaching mandolin, Bob Carlin teaching old time banjo just to mention a few. That sort of level of cost seems reasonable to me for what you are getting - just under £50 a day for group tuition.


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: GUEST,Helen Roche
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 08:29 AM

Thanks for the feedback chaps, I'll pass your comments on.


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: Fortunato
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 08:31 AM

Thanks for posting this. I was not familiar with these folk's work and had not heard their names. Looking him up, Woody Mann has some interesting gigs and unfamiliar gigs, and Duck Baker has some good finger style work on his website.

It would be interesting to know how many folks they draw, and if they're covering their expenses for the trip to the UK with one workshop.

It's tough times and everyone's trying to make a living.

regards,
Chance


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 08:53 AM

I could be wrong but I believe one of these guys lives in Sussex (U.K)
Tough times indeed, how many folks can afford those prices I wonder.

Hoot


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: GUEST,Helen Roche
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 01:33 PM

Hi all - I passed on your comments to Duck (he's my husband - I should declare my interest here!), and he responded with the following:

"It's quite comparable to similar weekends offered by other guitarists of this calibre in the UK:

Martin Simpson's is £225:
http://www.martinsimpson.com/workshops/?PHPSESSID=0a06399edb10578593d54d030d25f2dd

Stefan Grossman's is £250:
http://www.guitarvideos.com/00workshop11.htm

Prices for similar guitar events by comparable teachers overseas are likewise comparably priced.

Accommodation is usually only included when a larger event can offer dormitory rooms, often shared. It's obviously quite a different thing to organize a very large event like Sore Fingers or European Blues Association's Blues Guitar Week, where dozens of students are involved and individual classes can be 20 students, than it is for one or two players to host a workshop where the maximum attendance will not exceed two dozen all told. For a small scale event like this, the overheads are much more of a factor.

The teaching time on last year's weekend was about 7 hours a day. And the group convened the evening before to plan things out. There was time for a bit of individual instruction as well, for those who had trouble keeping up with the group.

It might be considered expensive - but not a rip-off, we don't think."


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: GUEST,Helen Roche
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 01:35 PM

ps - Woody Mann lives in New York City, and Duck lives in Reading, UK. For those of you within distance of Reading, Oxford or London, Duck teaches individually as well - his prices are reasonable and negotiable. :)


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Subject: RE: AmericanRootsGuitar Workshop1-3July, Salisbury(UK)
From: GUEST,Helen Roche
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 08:00 AM

Sorry for the mangled title, btw - not sure what happened there.


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