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Tune Req: East/west Virginia girls/boys 2 parts

Barbara 30 Mar 11 - 06:44 PM
GUEST,Hieronymous 30 Mar 11 - 10:27 PM
Sarah McQuaid 31 Mar 11 - 08:29 AM
Barbara 31 Mar 11 - 11:51 AM
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Subject: Tune Req: East/west Virginia girls/boys 2 parts
From: Barbara
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 06:44 PM

I had this on one of the February Tapes [from Gordon Bok], and I can't find it. In the data base we have part of words and a tune, but I want both halves -- one is counterpoint to the other.
One half starts:
"Come all you Virginia gal[girls?] and listen to my noise,
Don't go dating W Virginia boys" I think that's right, anyway,
and the other half starts
"Come all you W Virginia boys and hear my story,"
Something like that.
Anyone know where I can find both halves and the tunes?
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: East/west Virginia girls/boys 2 parts
From: GUEST,Hieronymous
Date: 30 Mar 11 - 10:27 PM

Elizabeth LaPrelle sings West Virginia Girls on one of her CD's, if that helps.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: East/west Virginia girls/boys 2 parts
From: Sarah McQuaid
Date: 31 Mar 11 - 08:29 AM

I recorded the song on my last album -- you can listen to the track in its entirety here:

http://sarahmcquaid.bandcamp.com/track/west-virginia-boys

Here are my notes on the song from the CD booklet, including lyrics:

I learned this song from my mother. It's part of a grand tradition of songs in which girls are strongly advised against consorting with young men from the neighbouring parish, county, state or whatever. The miserable repast the prospective brides are told to expect varies from "Johnny cake and venison" (which doesn't sound all that bad!) to "hoecake and hominy", "cornbread and buttermilk" and "cornbread and bacon".

It's been asserted that this family of songs originated from the blackface minstrel song 'De Free Nigger', published by Firth & Hall in 1841 "as sung by R. W. Pelham in the principal theatres, in the United States," which begins:

Come all you Virginia gals and listen to my noise
Neber do you wed wid de Carolina boys,
For if dat you do your portion it will be
Corn cake and harmony [hominy?] and Jango lango tea

In their book Songs of the Great American West (1995), Irwin Silber and Earl Robinson describe how the song made the rounds of the country:

In the Ozarks, they told the Tennessee girls not to marry the Arkansas boys, while the Arkansas girls were similarly warned against the Missouri boys, and Louisiana girls were advised to guard against the Texas clan.... The song traveled to Wyoming, where young ladies were urged to scorn the Cheyenne boys, and out near the Great Salt Lake, the disciples of Brigham Young fashioned their own wry parody on themselves:

Come, girls, come, and listen to my noise,
Don't you marry the Mormon boys,
For if you do, your fortune it will be,
Johnnycakes and babies are all you'll see.

Here are the lyrics I'm singing:

Come on all you Virginia gals and listen to my noise
Don't you mess around with West Virginia boys
If'n you do your ration will be
Cornbread, molasses and sassafras tea

When he comes a-courtin' he'll bring along a chair
First thing he'll say, my daddy killed a deer
Next thing he'll say, before he sits down
Honey can you bake your Johnny cakes brown

When he comes a-courtin', tell you what he'll wear
Long tail coat, just about to tear
Pair of old boots with the tops turned down
Pair of cotton socks that he wears the year round

When he comes a-courtin' he'll whisper in your ear
First it's honey lamb and then it's dear
After you're married, no such thing
Get up and fix my breakfast, you good-for-nothin' thing

Come on all you Virginia gals and listen to my noise
Don't you mess 'round with West Virginia boys
If'n you do your ration will be
Cornbread, molasses and sassafras tea

from I Won't Go Home 'Til Morning, released 28 October 2008
Trad arr. S. McQuaid/G. O'Beirne
Sarah – vocals
Liam Bradley – percussion

Cheers,

Sarah McQuaid
http://www.sarahmcquaid.com


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: East/west Virginia girls/boys 2 parts
From: Barbara
Date: 31 Mar 11 - 11:51 AM

Thanks, Sarah. Nice version. And half of what I'm looking for.
Now I need the counter melody and the boy's version. You can sing the two versions together.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: East/west Virginia girls/boys 2 parts
From: Sarah McQuaid
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 08:03 AM

Cheers Barbara! Let me know when you find the other one ...


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