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Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool

Jack Blandiver 01 Apr 11 - 03:01 AM
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Subject: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 03:01 AM

(NB - Knowing Mudcat's Folklore policy I hesitate to put such a prefix on this one, but given the iconic status of the Angel of the North, much less the cultural & popular affection it is held in by many people (not just in the North East of England) I think it's fitting in this case. Since its erection in 1998, The Angel has taken on a folklife of its own and has been variously compared to both The Collosus of Rhodes and The Wicker Man, and is noted as a site of pilgrimage, healing, ritual and revelation appealing to everyone from Morris sides, Witches Covens, New Age Tavellers, Christians and mystics which more than clinches its folkloric status and makes the following news item all the more alarming...
With respect, S O'P)


Angel of the North to move to Blackpool

There are mixed feelings over yesterday's astonishing announcement that Anton Gormley's iconic sculpture The Angel of the North (aka The Gateshead Angel) has been sold by a cash-strapped NewcastleGateshead to the ever-booming town of Blackpool, which is presently in the process of reinventing itself as The Mantelpiece of England. To this end it is busy commissioning and acquiring numerous public artworks of note for "..a cultural display second to none.." although readers will be relieved that in the interests of close regional cooperation Mr Gormley's equally celebrated Formby Beach figures are staying where they are - for now anyway.

Chief amongst the various concerns is just exactly where in Blackpool (a unitary authority since 1998, earning the reputation of being The Vatican of the North) Mr Gormley's 66-foot iron angel is to be situated. The worries are that it might appear dwarfed by the still more iconic Blackpool Tower, which at 518-feet makes The Angel appear puny by comparison, and whilst it looks likely that The Angel's new home will be on a specially constructed plinth on Blackpool's already sculpture-heavy south shore promenade (with its High Tide Organ and They Shot Horses, Don't They? which consists of the largest revolving mirror ball in the world), it can't be placed too close to The Big One - a pleasure beach roller-coaster with a nerve shattering drop from a height of 235 feet - the tallest in the UK.

Understandably, there are mixed feelings on Tyneside too, where The Angel (known locally as The Gateshead Flasher) has inspired dozens of artists and song-writers alike despite the expected (and much needed) revenue from souvenir reproductions being crushed by Mr Gormley himself, who forbade any popular cashing-in on his work, which is but part of the reason NewcastleGateshead are having to let it go. As one councillor commented: "Mr Gormley didn't want his work cheapened by affordable snow globes, fridge magnets, wine decanters, music boxes, pencil sharpeners, erasers and key-rings. In fact, the only person making any money from the Angel these days is the ice-cream man pitched in the car-park nearby, so the whole thing has been a bit of a damp squib really. Personally, I'll be glad to see the back of the bloody thing - as will most of the locals if they're honest about it - but we wish the angel well in its journey across the Pennines and a long and happy life in its new sea-side home."

More savvy in matters of reproduction, Blackpool have struck a deal to Mr Gormley's reported satisfaction - as well as that of the local job market, which is grateful that no less than two factory units on the Whitegate Drive Industrial Estate have been commissioned to supply the anticipated tourist trade with souvenirs to suit every pocket come the Angel's arrival hopefully in time for the switching-on of the world famous illuminations in September 2012.

Whilst Mr Gormley was unavailable for comment in person, a spokesman said that he feels the new role of The Angel of the North is to take Blackpool's historic legacy into its 177-foot embrace and thus take its place at the very heart of British popular culture. In Blackpool, The Angel will look only to the future, which is something it never quite managed to do on its bleak little hillock overlooking the less than inspiring Team Valley in Gateshead. As one Low Fell local said after hearing the announcement yesterday: "I've never liked it - not where it is anyway - but I'll be very happy to visit it in Blackpool. I think it'll be a big draw for Geordies and a real source of pride for them too."


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Noreen
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 05:06 AM

:)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 05:22 AM

Hertford has put in a rival bid, and all the signs are that it will be given a prominent position in North Road or North Road Avenue.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 05:33 AM

Will that now mean Ed Pickford's "Gateshead Angel" will become a traditional song? ;-)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 05:37 AM

Brilliant!..in the same league as Tonight's "Spaghetti Trees"


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 05:39 AM

;0)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: banjoman
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 07:11 AM

There are plans afoot in Portsmouth to refloat the Victory - to replace Ark Royal perhaps??


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: alex s
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 11:43 AM

I'll be glad to see the back of the Rusty Flasher, to give it its true Geordie name. Nae use to nobody, the ugly bliddy thing.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 05:09 PM

Unfortunately I believe this to be an April Fool. The Geteshead Flasher is how I know it - but it's flashing anyway!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Mo the caller
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 05:16 PM

We had it in Nantwich years ago. But the cows ate it.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: s&r
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 06:01 PM

Well, I believe it and I can't wait.


Stu


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: LadyJean
Date: 01 Apr 11 - 06:31 PM

Yours is much better than mine. Happy April 1!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 06:18 AM

Blitherscom Folk Festival will be happy to run a seminar on this story nentitititled "Angles on the Angel"


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 08:14 AM

Well, it's all true - apart from it coming to Blackpool, which is something I'd love to see...

Where it is, it attracts artists, song-writers, folksong writers, witches, fertility seekers, morris dancers... AND the artist expressly forbade any cheap souvenir cash-ins (for shame!) - in fact, a visit to the angel can be a bleak & dispiriting experience, unless you're a fertility seeker or naturist morris dancer, in which case the absense of any sort of focal point at all is a positive boon (saving the ice cream van in the car park.).

Blackpool - a unitary authority since April the 1st 1998; any amount of public art, including ones I mentioned above (and yes, the mirror ball is called They Shoot Horses, Don't They?) - there's even a big broken heart called Desire which ties in with Blackpool's reputation as Blackwaterside, maybe more so than Dublin, where Irish Lads are less conspicuous in respect of their ethnicity.

The idea for this came from a chat I had with an Low Fell resident who said much what I said there - that whilst he liked the sculpture he thought it would be better in Blackpool. However, Blackpool has its Angels - The Tower, for one (the familiar outline of which is currently obscured by scaffolding) which shelters lots of real wonders, from the Charlie Cairoli Museum (is that still there?) with its various Wheatstones and musical tricks to the Tower Ballroom where on rainy afternoon elderly lesbians dance around buckets on the dancefloor to the sound of the mightky Wurlitzer, and you might find my wife and I, relaxing after another stunning performance of the Tower Circus, our hands sore from clapping...

As a Geordie by birth, I've grown to hate the Angel of the North; I find it ill-propotioned, puny and mediocre, especially in this age of graceful, functional (at a pinch) wind-turbines. I'm not a fan of art, but commerce is fine and grass-roots stuff is even better. The folklore of the Angel is more interesting than the Angel itself - I find the idea of childless couples going there to copulate quite heartening, though one hears of Dogging on summer nights! Morris Dancers, Wiccans and Druids? Perish the thought, and perish other things too as the cold winds blow up the Team Valley whatever the time of year. BUT if ever it did come to Blackpool then - I think I might just change my opinion of it; in Blackpool you see, the normal rules just don't apply...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: alex s
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 08:25 AM

Nice one


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Mr Happy
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 09:29 AM

Why not stick it on top o'the tower?

Perhaps reminiscent of the statue of the imaginary deity on a hill overlooking Rio!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 09:30 AM

Can anyone Photoshop that I wonder?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 10:05 AM

Sadly the white horse at Ebbsfleet is no joke.

Nothing artistic about the eyesore. Wish they would move it about 12 to 15 miles east.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 10:12 AM

I like the Uffington White Horse - the ultimate in public art!

Talking of public art, we saw this yesterday in Manchester and were very moved:

Machester Museum Ice Bear

As the ice melts, the skeleton is slowly revealed...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 10:14 AM

Love the stylised Uffington horse. That bear is great too.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler
Date: 02 Apr 11 - 06:29 PM

I like the beer at The White Bear.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Wolfhound person
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 05:59 AM

How soon can we get Blackpool to come and take it away?

Please, please....

Nice one!!

Paws


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 06:44 AM

I remember the Tower Circus as a child, in Wakes Week when all the mills closed and we all bogged off to Blackpool for a week in a boarding house. This would be around 1952 or so. The circus, with its water finale and Charlie Cairoli, still sticks in my mind, as does the aquarium with an enormous turtle. I can also recall sitting in the blacony at the Tower Ballroom on wet afternoons, watching my parents dancing while I sat taking in the sights and eating chocolates. Up came Reg on top of his Mighty Wurlitzer (the jokes that phrase has spawned...) to the tune of "Oh I Do Like To Be Beside The Seaside"...

And the joy, one sunny afternoon, of putting old pennies in a machine where ball bearings rolled down through layers of pins into holes worth different penny prized. I ended up with a whole pound in winnings. Just imagine a school cap full of 240 old copper pennies...

Bye, them were't' days.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 10:14 AM

Bet you didn't keep them, Will! Some people have:-

Great Britain UK 1918 H penny English British coin on eBay ($Can9.99 bid)

Ah well! All that history that we used to carry round in our pockets disappeared with decimalisation - wren farthings, ship ha'pennies, more than a hundred years of pennies fron Victoria to Elizabeth II, silver threepennies, sixpences in the Christmas pudding, florins (same value as ten-pence pieces, but now all gone back to the mint to retrieve their small silver content), half-crowns, crowns, ten-bob notes.

How about some giant coins for Blackpool promenade? If you gave them the right "kink" they could be wind turbines - and pay for the Illuminations!

Ross


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Apr 11 - 11:21 AM

Oddly enough, Ross - I have a box somewhere filled with old pennies, halfpennies and threepenny bits. Must dig 'em out sometime and remind myself what they felt like. I do recall going up to the corner shop and paying for sweets with farthings.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 05:44 AM

the comedy carpet being laid in Blackpool has been dubbed the Horizontal Angel of the North.

Could this be the source of the confusion? Deliberate or hapenstancially.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 10:22 AM

Hadn't spotted that! Cheers, Mr Red...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 11:04 AM

From the "comedy carpet" page linked above:-

"The carpet, which is being designed by Gordon Young, has cost £14 million to build. Young is responsible for the surroundings for Eric Morecambe's statue, which has become one of Blackpool's most popular tourist attractions."

Does this mean Blackpool has already started importing/stealing artwork from other places? Last time I looked, Eric Morecambe's statue was still in MORECAMBE!

Mudcat thread Who'll Go To Morecambe? /The Last Resort and Ron Baxter's parody are not (sadly) the originators of the Morecambe/Last Resort connection - try Googling those three words for some interesting reflections on Morecambe in particular and the problems of regenerating seaside towns in general.

No mention among the excellent photographs in the Blackpool blog of the current traffic chaos (happily passed on from Fleetwood!) caused by tramway reconstruction along the front. They did things differently in the old days:-

"Once the GWR was in control of the whole line from London to Penzance, it set about converting the remaining broad-gauge tracks. The last broad-gauge service left Paddington station on Friday, 20 May 1892; the following Monday, trains from Penzance were operated by standard-gauge locomotives." (Wikipedia)

Ross


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 04 Apr 11 - 12:16 PM

caused by tramway reconstruction along the front.

Actually by the construction of the Blackpool Tower Festival Headland (though the tramline mess doesn't help matters) set to be the home of the Comedy Carpet as well as living 3-D reconstruction of Escher's famous image entitled Crazy Stairs (okay I made that last bit up, at least nabbed the idea from Family Guy, but Comedy Carpet brings to mind a similar thing somehow..)


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Angel of the North to move to Blackpool
From: GUEST,patriot
Date: 02 Aug 15 - 05:37 AM

Isn't there a song about the Angel of the North?- Ron Angel maybe?


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