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i have lost my singing ability HELP ME

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akashdubey 12 Apr 11 - 12:38 AM
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Subject: Chord Req: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: akashdubey
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 12:38 AM

my name is akash dubey. while practicing on high notes i feel some pain in my vocal cords. the very next day i feel some heaviness in my voice and that continues till now after three days please guys help me .i don't want to loose my voice.i am unable to sing .help me please i am begging you all...


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 12:56 AM

Perhaps you should see a doctor - a general practitioner to check whether you have some problem that he can easily see. I don't want to depress you, but if all sorts of things from diabetes to cancer can be rapidly rulds out, then you may just have a 'strain', in which case rest and trying to learn a technique less demanding on your vocal chords may help in the long run.

There is no sudden magic cure. You may have a cold. There are 'throat soothers; that will temporarily help, but in the long run, you should seek a professions, not a bunch of anonymous idiot/experts on the internet.

Warm tea, lemon juice, even a tiny spot of alcohol in a coffee may assist. There is a product called 'Irish Moss' that contains a seaweed extract that can help.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: kendall
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 07:35 AM

I hope it's less serious than the reason I lost mine.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 09:23 AM

How I found mine:

Well, I never sang till the wife left home.

I ain'ta jokin. I daren't stop now!


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 01:09 PM

For heaven's sake, give it a break. Calm down and let your vocal cords calm down too.

Now, think about the simplest remedy possible - next to remaining calm. Feed the cords some honey. Do not try to sing at all for at least 24 hours. Accept this as a vacation, not a crisis.

Now, I am sure there are mudcatter's out there who have had this problem and will respond with some simple ideas - rather than go to a doctor. Clearly you strained something. If you strain a muscle, what do you do? Nope, you cannot rub something on your vocal cords but you can give them soothing honey, herbs? healing teas?

Just calm down. Listen to soothing music. Give them time to heal.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 01:14 PM

apparently whitney had some problems partly as a result of straining high notes.there was an article on eic arsenaux site on the subject.
he is an r an b artist but i,ve found his free site very useful and have gradually attained higher singing.not too many years past,i was a non singer.
hope you find the right solution for you.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: gnu
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 01:37 PM

Thrice daily, sprinkle a pinch of ground ginger on a tablespoon of honey, mix it around in your mouth and take small swallows of it. Ginger tea doesdn't work as well.

Doc... yes. Rest up... yes. Take it easy... yes.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: foggers
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 04:50 PM

I agree with all the comments. DO check with a Doc just in case it is a sign of something of a health nature. Once that is ruled out, then the next question is maybe you are over-straining your vocal gear, so rest and home remedies are needed (I like honey and lemon juice in warm water).
When the ache and heaviness subsides, then start again gently.You have not said if you have had any singing or other vocal training, or if you have been singing for a long time and that this problem is new. So I am tempted to assume you are not an experienced singer and that maybe you do not have access to a teacher/coach/mentor, and I think that maybe this could be what you need if this problem is to be ironed out.

You need to remember your singing muscles are exactly that; they are muscles. If you wanted to take up running you would not start by launching yourself into a 26 mile marathon, you would start with warm up exercises, a gentle jog around the block, and a cool down exercise. And then you would repeat this often, gradually increasing the length and speed of the run. Similarly with the voice you need to start with gentle warm up (humming, short 4 note scales, in your mid range which is usually about the pitch of your speaking voice) then expand the scales to stretch things out, then have a go at some of the things you want to try to sing (starting with something achievably in your current vocal range) and then you need to cool down (I usually sing a nice air or lullaby and end with some more humming).

To attain those high notes you appear to be after, your voice needs to be supported by good breathing from the diaphragm, a relaxed ribcage, an open throat and relaxed face. You are not going to achieve all this overnight. If you can afford it, find a good teacher, and if you can't afford that check out places like You Tube for voice coaching tips.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 05:24 PM

See a singing teacher as well as a doctor you may be straining your voice by singing incorrectly


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: GUEST,999
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 05:27 PM

Read and heed GSS's post.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 05:43 PM

Don't sing at all, or use your voice any more than necessary, until this problem is gone. You're obviously putting strain on your vocal cords, which means wear or abrasion, and the only treatment is to stop and let them heal. Also get medical advice, as others have said.

It sounds as though it's got quite bad, fairly suddenly (three days is a short time) and it clearly has you worried, so don't take chances. The only thing you can do is to "not do": i.e. stop and wait for it to heal. Whatever professional advice you get is going to include that injunction - and I also know how frustrating it can be.

But you simply cannot risk permanent damage by making your voice work when it needs to rest. The only cure for wear is to stop causing the wear, so don't even talk (OR whisper, which is just as bad, maybe worse) any more than you absolutely must. And give it time, which is the only medicine where there's been strain or overuse - especially if you "belt" the notes out in a pop or showbiz style.

Read through some of the related threads (highlighted in blue links at the top of the page) which contain a lot of wise counsel. This problem is a familiar old foe and has been discussed before. Best of luck!


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 05:46 PM

PS: Welcome to Mudcat!


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 05:46 PM

Good advice. Check with a doctor. Otolaryngologist (ear, nose, and throat specialist). He or she can look at your vocal cords and check their condition, then tell how to proceed from there.

Then, depending on what the doctor tells you, get to a good, competent voice teacher, and they can guide you from there.

Never, ever, no time, push your voice beyond what it wants to do with some ease. DON'T push your voice into a range that starts getting uncomforable. Discomfort, and especially pain, is Nature's way of telling you to quit doing whatever you're doing.

Don Firth (been there, done that.)

P. S. There's a reason that someone (especially a non-singer) who goes to a sports event and does a lot of yelling and cheering is often hoarse and croaky the following day. They've done a number on their vocal mechanism. In their excitement at the game, they've pushed their voice beyond what it is accustomed to doing. You have to build up to things slowly and carefully.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 05:52 PM

> Never, ever, no time, push your voice beyond what it wants to do

Words to copy out and tape onto the bathroom mirror and the fridge door and the side of the computer screen


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 06:00 PM

And on the undersides of your eyelids...

Kitty


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: michaelr
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 07:06 PM

That OP looks like a wind-up to me...


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 07:23 PM

Well, it is the first post from him.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: GUEST,Betsy
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 07:30 PM

How old are you ? and are you a young male? perhaps something(s) have dropped


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 07:48 PM

... and the only post ... joined just to post.

Would love to hear more about this person's music, what style of music, etc. that could be helpful.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 13 Apr 11 - 02:40 AM

What makes anyone assume the opening message is bogus? Have you seen the desperate tone of some of the other help-me voice threads? What if English isn't even Akash's first language?

Even if the post is a put-on, this thread still has loads of good advice which could be of benefit to somebody else. And if it isn't, that sort of assumption is hardly going to encourage this new member (who's already feeling bad enough) to come back here. Personally I can see nothing in what Akash wrote to suggest falseness - it rings all too true. Whatever happened to giving newcomers the benefit of the doubt? (The anonymous Guest's "joke" is in poor taste too - thought they weren't even allowed anymore.)

I too hope Akash will tell us more about his/her music.


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Subject: What effect does low thyroid have on voice?
From: GUEST,Marvy
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 03:09 PM

I'm a Bel Canto / coloratura by training, but age has diminished my range. I have continued to sound quite pretty, nonetheless.

I've been singing with a choir where the soprano section is quite poor, so I've taken the lead for the Easter season. Sadly, the music they are singing all is low range, low tessitura. Far below where I'm usually willing to sing -- even down to middle C and B. Nevertheless, to carry the section, I have been singing loudly at a too-low range and each time, of course, my larynx hurts. I know better.

I sing in another choir too. They sing at a slightly higher range.

In addition, I've just started Thyroid supplements. Does anyone know if this can affect my voice?

I KNOW the pushing is terrible for my voice, AND I want to know if the thyroid is making it even worse.

I'm quite afraid of becoming that old lady with a reedy and unpleasant voice who is the only one who doesn't know it--but today, I don't like how I sound!

I love this particular church, but I simply cannot sing these low songs, I need to be in the real soprano range if I intend to have a voice through my antiquity..


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 04:09 PM

I am no voice teacher, but it seems like you should not be trying to carry the section and straining your voice. Most choirs would love some true sopranos, but probably have to lower the range if there are not enough. Could you have the soprano group in the future sing in their range and you sing a pretty descant? mg


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 04:30 PM

> I have been singing loudly at a too-low range and each time, of course, my larynx hurts. I know better... I KNOW the pushing is terrible for my voice... I don't like how I sound!

I can't answer the thyroid question, though I'm sure any number of health website forums could. But what does it matter? If the medication turns out to have no effect, are you still going to go on misusing your instrument? And if thyroid is causing problems, it doesn't mean that the vocal strain is somehow harmless. You've answered the real issue - or rather, your body is answering it for you, loud and clear: With or without the meds, you're destroying your voice! WHY???

If you've had bel canto training you know what your bottom range is - what on earth has possessed you to force yourself below it? You're incurring vocal damage for a choir with a poor soprano section?

I note you say the "Easter season" which presumably means throughout Lent, so it's not just for a day or a week (which means you'll need months of silent healing time). What about the next time they want you - as they inevitably will - for whatever the new occasion is? And the next. And the next. Until you're just one more member of a poor soprano section.

You really have to decide which is more important, belonging to this choir or singing itself. And then act on your decision.

I'm quite afraid of becoming that old lady with a reedy and unpleasant voice.

!!! That says it all.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 04:38 PM

Worth a replay, trust Don won't mind:

Subject: RE: I have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Don Firth - PM
Date: 12 Apr 11 - 05:46 PM

> Never, ever, no time, push your voice beyond what it wants to do with some ease. DON'T push your voice into a range that starts getting uncomforable. Discomfort, and especially pain, is Nature's way of telling you to quit doing whatever you're doing.


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Subject: RE: i have lost my singing ability HELP ME
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 05:00 PM

1. Rest.
2. Quack (doctor)
3. Sing lower or higher as the case may be.
4. Sing quieter if necessary
5. Voice coaches MAY assist you not to wreck your voice, but beware beware beware they may want to turn you into a plastic opera singer and wreck whatever it is about your singing that is attractive (if it is).
6. If you HAVE to sing this week, Strepsils, or Meggezones, or Vocalzones - but you WILL pay the price.


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