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what's a Backstep

Lonesome Gillette 15 Sep 99 - 06:26 PM
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Subject: what's a Backstep
From: Lonesome Gillette
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 06:26 PM

What's a Backstep? Like a Clinch Mountain Backstep. I figure it's a dance step, is it? Does it have any connection to the form of a tune?


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Crowhugger
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 05:50 AM

I was wondering the same thing because of the same song. Sounds like a fun style to write in. and I kinda like to know when I'm taking the "rules" and tying them up into knots.


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 02:23 PM

Did you look here ?

If you get answer, share!


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 02:26 PM

Sorry, try this:

Click here


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 02:27 PM

Well, it's broken. Go to LINKS at top, seek the Dance/Contradance and OldTime Rural links


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 02:54 PM

Women: Right, Left, back-step, (repeats over and over)

"Back-step" (or "rock step") describes two steps but is misleading somewhat. The first step ("back") is as if you were going to walk backwards. After shifting your weight to the backward step (but without touching your back heel to the floor, the second step ("step") is as if you changed your mind after the first backwards step and decided to walk forward. So, "back-forward" would be more descriptive, but "back-step" (sometimes "rock step") is the common usage. (?!)


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Crowhugger
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 03:01 PM

I think I have the picture, Sorcha. Takes me back to public school when this sort of thing was taught as a section in gym class, tho' we didn't learn that particlar step up here in the Great White North.

Ever-kind Praise, thanks for the tip. Such a loving cuff to knock me outta brainfade mode.

Hug you both, be you iridescent beauties or not.


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Jacob B
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 03:23 PM

Sorcha,

You are describing swing/lindy/jitterbug dancing, which probably has nothing to do with Clinch Mountain Backstep. For that matter, the various kinds of backstep that I know from Morris dancing are probably also unrelated. I don't think we've figured out where the name Clinch Mountain Backstep comes from yet.

Jacob


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 05:55 PM

OK, it was just a shot in the dark.Maybe backstep is something like a square dance shuffle, only done in reverse?


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 06:07 PM

I thought it was attached to the stoop out behind the house where you went for a smoke and a pull after supper.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 06:42 PM

I thought it was a bit on a ship - John come down the backstep from the singing of A L Lloyd, is this the context you mean? Cos I'm completely confused now....

LTS


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 06:45 PM

There's also a tune called Backstep Cindy. I've got a gig tonite, so I'll ask the rest of the band. One of them might know, but none of us are dancers of any sort. We Have High Hopes!


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: sophocleese
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 09:56 PM

Clinch Mountain Backstep, neat is that why they always say subduction leads to orogeny? In sacred circle dancing it means something like Sorcha described. Sacred Circle dancing derives it steps and terminology from all types of dance.


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: GUEST,Les B
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 11:25 PM

In case someone hasn't mentioned it yet, "Clinch Mountain Backstep" is a famous banjo instrumental by old time / bluegrass musician Ralph Stanley. It has a musical backstep in it at a certain point, apparently to match the backstep in a dance. It is what fiddlers would call a "crooked" tune.


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: Sorcha
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 11:33 PM

"Crooked"? I don't know the meaning of that.......and none of the band knew either. Well, poop on 'em.


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: GUEST,Les B
Date: 15 Feb 00 - 11:39 PM

Its a tune that has more, or sometimes less, notes in certain measures so it doesn't come out even. Fiddlers seem to like them -- drives guitar back-up crazy. Sorry, I can't think of any examples, except, maybe, "Louie's First Tune" ?


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 06:25 AM

I'm with 'Spaw on this one. Where I was dragged up (Birmingham, UK, aka Brum or Brummagem), the backstep was the one you didn't need to holystone 'cos the neighbours couldn't see it! The front step was usually worn away by constant cleaning!
If you want a musical excuse for this thread creep, try the old music hall song recorded by some jazz band singers,e.g. Clinton Ford and the Merseysippi (yes, they were from Liverpool) Jazz Band, On Mother Kelly's doorstep ("...and last night on the back step I kissed her best of all...") [prbably not remembered accurately as Steve Parkes will no doubt point out!]
RtS


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Subject: RE: what's a Backstep
From: GUEST,alison
Date: 16 Feb 00 - 06:57 AM

that's what we used to call "ball change" when I did tap, you don't actually take the weight on the foot you use it to change the leading foot...

slainte

alison


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