Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jun 13 - 10:15 PM

from youth to old age

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Mar 13 - 08:16 AM

Here's our "play-along" video of "What Are They Doing In Heaven?" Performed on violin, guitar, and autoharp. Chords and lyrics included in video. Lead sheet and guitar tab on site.

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 04 Mar 13 - 01:37 AM

My source for that was hymn #9 in Beams of Heaven: Hymns of Charles Albert Tindley (1851-1933).

I find this one of Tindley's less powerful texts, and I'm not overly impressed with the tune, either.

Subject: Lyr Add: SOMEONE IS WAITING FOR ME (C A Tindley)
From: Haruo
Date: 04 Mar 13 - 01:34 AM

1. It may be a brother with whom I did play,
   E'er the death angel had called him away,
   Somewhere in glory so happy and free,
   Watching and waiting this moment for me.

(Chorus)
      Someone is waiting in heaven for me,
      Somebody's face I am longing to see,
      Someone just over live's troublesome sea
      Is watching and waiting for me.

2. It may be a sister, the charm of our home,
   Whom in bright springtime through meadows we roamed,
   Thou now up in heaven bright mansions to see,
   Watching and waiting this moment for me.
(Chorus)

3. It may be a father whom I love so dear,
   Whose kindest provisions relieved me of care,
   Somewhere iwth angels beyond death's cold sea,
   Watching and waiting this moment for me.
(Chorus)

4. It may be a mother who rocked me to sleep,
   Like fretful infants I sometimes would weep,
   Now she's in heaven from trials all free,
   Watching and waiting this moment for me.
(Chorus)

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Mar 13 - 06:43 PM

Someone is waiting for me? I can't find the words to this hymn. Does anyone have them?

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 16 Oct 12 - 12:26 AM

Okay, GUEST, look here: After awhile.

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 08:09 PM

Okay, I've scanned it, but will have to wait a few hours to tweak and post.

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 04:52 PM

BTW "The boars of haughty error" in the above text of "A Better Day Is Coming" should read "The boast of haughty error". The typo was on the part of the website Joe copied it from. And there is some question in my mind about the origins of that text, i.e. whether it is all by Tindley, or whether Tindley adapted it from an earlier, politically less (but not un-)engaged hymn (#112).

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 15 Oct 12 - 02:05 PM

I will scan and post the whole song (w/ music, sorry, no chords) this evening. It's #35 in Beams of Heaven, which I recently added to the database at hymnary.org.

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Oct 12 - 09:57 PM

http://www.theafricanamericanlectionary.org has excerpts of "After Awhile" and other songs:

Charles Albert Tindley (1851–1933) wrote many timeless songs. Although he wrote them for a particular audience and addressed very specific periods in history, they still apply to much of the current human condition. In the song "A Better Day Is Coming" Tindley's lyrics were written with blacks in slavery in mind and their condition years after Emancipation. However, clearly the words of the song are still the plea of so many today. In the song "Here I May Be Weak and Poor (God Will Provide for Me)," one can almost close his or her eyes and see those who suffered the savagery of slavery, the un-kept promises of Emancipation, and even those who now suffer devastation due to the greed of others. In "The World of Forms and Changes (After awhile)" he again addresses timeless subjects such as fear over tainted products. He says: "The world of forms and changes [i]s just now so confused. That there is found some danger [i]n everything you use." As the next food recall occurs, Tindley was again on the mark. Then, he speaks of the greed that was permeating the country in his day. He says, "Our boated land and nation, [a]re plunging in disgrace; with pictures of starvation, almost in every place; while loads of needed money, remain in hoarded piles; but God will rule this country, after awhile." As people occupy Wall Street and other streets around the world in the fall of 2011, this verse of "The World of Forms and Changes" is so relevant.

A Better Day Is Coming 1. A better day is coming, the morning draweth nigh, When girded right with holy might shall overthrow the wrong, When Christ our Lord shall listen to every plaintive sigh, and stretch his hand o'er every land in justice by and by. Chorus 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by A better day is coming, the morning draweth nigh. 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by, The welcome dawn is hastening on, 'Tis coming by and by. 2. The boars of haughty error no more shall fill the land, While men enraged their powers engaged, to kill their fellow man, But God the Lord shall triumph, and Satan's host shall fly, For wrong must cease and righteousness shall conquer by and by. Chorus 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by A better day is coming, the morning draweth nigh. 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by, The welcome dawn is hastening on, 'Tis coming by and by. 3. No more will angry nations In deadly conflict meet, While children cry and parents die in conquest or defeat, For Jesus Christ the Captain, will give the battle cry, The Holy Ghost will lead the host to victory by and by. Chorus 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by A better day is coming, the morning draweth nigh. 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by, The welcome dawn is hastening on, 'Tis coming by and by. 4. No more shall lords and rulers Their helpless victims press and bar the door against the poor and leave them in distress, But God, the King of Glory, who hears the ravens cry, will give command that every man have plenty by and by. Chorus 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by A better day is coming, the morning draweth nigh. 'Tis coming by and by, 'Tis coming by and by, The welcome dawn is hastening on, 'Tis coming by and by.7

Here I May Be Weak and Poor (God Will Provide for Me) 1. Here I may be weak and poor, With afflictions to endure; All about me not a ray of light to see. Just as He has often done, For his helpless trusting ones, God has promised to provide for me. Chorus God has promised to provide for me, God has promised to provide for me; All creation is His own, All my needs to him are known. He has promised to provide for me. 2. All my raiment and my food, And my health and all that's good, Are within His own written guarantee, God is caring for the poor, Just as He has done before, He has promised to provide for me. Chorus God has promised to provide for me, God has promised to provide for me; All creation is His own, All my needs to him are known. He has promised to provide for me. 3. Mighty men may have control, Of the silver and the gold; Want and sorrow for the poor there may be, But the God of heaven reigns, And his promise is the same, And I know He will provide for me. Chorus God has promised to provide for me, God has promised to provide for me; All creation is His own, All my needs to him are known. He has promised to provide for me. 4. Ancient Israel heard His voice, How the people did rejoice, When he lead them safely thro' the mighty sea. In the wilderness they knew, What the living God can do; He's the one that doth provide for me. Chorus God has promised to provide for me, God has promised to provide for me; All creation is His own, All my needs to him are known. He has promised to provide for me. 5. When they hadn't any bread, Good old Moses knelt and prayed; And the God who gives plentiful and free, Sent the precious manna down, Israel saw it on the ground; 'Twas the God who now provides for me. Chorus.8

The World of Forms and Changes (After awhile) The world of forms and changes Is just now so confused That there is found some danger In everything you use; But this is consolation To every blood washed child: The Lord will change our nation After awhile. 2. Old Satan tries to throw down Everything that's good; He'd fix a way to confound The righteous if he could. But thanks to God Almighty That he cannot beguile; And he will be done fighting After awhile. Chorus After awhile, After awhile The Lord will change our situation After awhile. 6. Our boasted land and nation, Are plunging in disgrace; With pictures of starvation Almost in every place; While loads of needed money, Remain in hoarded piles; But God will rule this country, After awhile. Chorus After awhile, After awhile The Lord will change our situation After awhile.9

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Oct 12 - 09:44 PM

Cyber Hymnal has a poor transcription of a song called "After Awhile" by Grace W. Davis, but I don't think that's the requested song.


The index posted above says "After Awhile" begins with these words:

The world of forms and changes

Readings in African American Church Music and Worship has the following:

Tindley also grimaces about modernism:
The world of forms and changes
Is just so now confused
That there is found some danger
In everything you use.

Subject: after a while charles a. tindley
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Oct 12 - 06:02 PM

Seeking lyrics: after a while, charles a. tindley

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 10 Nov 11 - 10:49 PM

Evergreen Hymn-Sing #5 ("Hark! the song of Jubilee"), Sunday, Nov. 20 at Fremont Baptist Church, will focus especially on the hymns of Tindley and (7th Day Adventist hymnwriter) F E Belden. If you're in Seattle, drop by.

Haruo

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 29 May 11 - 03:50 PM

The most recent version of the defunct website in the Internet Archives' Wayback Machine, here, doesn't seem to mention Tindley; my guess is "Jesus Lifted Me" is anonymous.

Haruo

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 29 May 11 - 03:47 PM

Thanks, Gospelsinger.

I'm not so sure about "Jesus Lifted Me" being by Tindley. It's not in Beams of Heaven, which purports to contain the entire Tindley corpus, and the website you cited http://church-of-the-holy-ghost.freeyellow.com/Imsoglad.htm has apparently been defunct since 2004. "I'm so glad Jesus lifted me" is listed in 6 of my indexed hymnals, but I haven't noted any copyright data. I'll try to check the authorship attributions if I remember later today.

The other two are true Tindley hymns.

BTW, in the list of first lines I gave above, I understated the number of stanzas for a few of the songs. Here are the correct numbers:

12. The hills of life: The Lord will make the way, 8 vv.
17. Ever since I have been living: A better home, 6 vv.
28. Lifetime is like a single day: He'll take you through, 7 vv.
35. The world of forms and changes: After awhile, 7 vv.
36. One day, a wayward boy: A stranger cut the rope, 7 vv.
42. Come, everyone that loves the Lord: Our suffering Jesus, 8 vv.

Being a fan of songs like "Abdul Abulbul Ameer" and "Thaïs", I don't mind extra stanzas at all! Go, Tindley! ;-)

Haruo

Subject: Lyr Add: I'M SO GLAD+LEAVE IT THERE+STAND BY ME
From: GUEST,Leon E - - Gospelsinger97
Date: 29 May 11 - 12:55 AM

I'M SO GLAD             Traditional
W & M by Charles A Tindley

1. I'm so glad Jesus lifted me!
I'm so glad Jesus lifted me!
I'm so glad Jesus lifted me!
Singing glory, Hallelujah, Jesus lifted me!

2. Satan had me bound, but Jesus set me free!
Satan had me bound, but Jesus set me free!
Satan had me bound, but Jesus set me free!
Singing glory, Hallelujah, Jesus lifted me!

3. I'm so glad Jesus lifted me!
I'm so glad Jesus lifted me!
I'm so glad Jesus lifted me!
Singing glory, Hallelujah, Jesus lifted me!

4. When I was a sinner, Jesus lifted me!
When I was a sinner, Jesus lifted me!
When I was a sinner, Jesus lifted me!
Singing glory, Hallelujah, Jesus lifted me!
Amen, amen, amen.

http://church-of-the-holy-ghost.freeyellow.com/Imsoglad.htm

LEAVE IT THERE        (1916)
W & M: Charles A Tindley

    A fellow who was a constant worrier visited Tindley one day. After listening a while, Tindley replied:   "My advice to you is put all your troubles in a sack, take 'em to the Lord, and leave 'em there."

1. If the world from you withhold of its silver and its gold,
And you have to get along with meager fare,
Just remember, in His Word, how He feeds the little bird;
Take your burden to the Lord and leave it there.

Refrain
Leave it there, leave it there,
Take your burden to the Lord and leave it there.
If you trust and never doubt, He will surely bring you out.
Take your burden to the Lord and leave it there.

2. If your body suffers pain and your health you can't regain,
And your soul is almost sinking in despair,
Jesus knows the pain you feel, He can save and He can heal;
Take your burden to the Lord and leave it there.

3. When your enemies assail and your heart begins to fail,
Don't forget that God in heaven answers prayer;
He will make a way for you and will lead you safely through.
Take your burden to the Lord and leave it there.

4. When your youthful days are gone and old age is stealing on,
And your body bends beneath the weight of care;
He will never leave you then, He'll go with you to the end.
Take your burden to the Lord and leave it there.

STAND BY ME   (1905)        Eb        4/4        
       W & M: Charles A Tindley

1. When the storms of life are raging, Stand by me (stand by me);
When the storms of life are raging, Stand by me (stand by me);
When the world is tossing me, Like a ship upon the sea,
Thou Who rulest wind and water, Stand by me (stand by me).

2. In the midst of tribulation, Stand by me (stand by me);
In the midst of tribulation, Stand by me (stand by me);
When the hosts of hell assail, And my strength begins to fail,
Thou Who never lost a battle, Stand by me (stand by me).

3. In the midst of faults and failures, Stand by me (stand by me);
In the midst of faults and failures, Stand by me (stand by me);
When I do the best I can, And my friends misunderstand,
Thou Who knowest all about me, Stand by me (stand by me).

4. In the midst of persecution, Stand by me (stand by me);
In the midst of persecution, Stand by me (stand by me);
When my foes in battle array Undertake to stop my way,
Thou Who save'd Paul and Silas, Stand by me (stand by me).

5. When I'm growing old and feeble, Stand by me (stand by me);
When I'm growing old and feeble, Stand by me (stand by me);
When my life becomes a burden, And I'm nearing chilly Jordan,
O, Thou "Lily of the Valley,"   Stand by me (stand by me).

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 10 May 11 - 02:22 AM

La ŝtormo preterpasas (my Esperanto translation of "The Storm Is Passing Over").

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 08 May 11 - 03:09 AM

Today I got a copy of Beam of Heaven: Hymns of Charles Albert Tindley (1851-1933), Cokesbury 2006, which purports to include all 46 of Tindley's published hymns in their entirety (the 1941 New Songs of Paradise, No. 6 had included all the hymns, but not always all their verses).

Here are the contents; lyrics are all his; tunes are his except where otherwise noted:

1. Ye pilgrims through this vale of tears: Consolation, 6 vv.
2. Go, ye humble pilgrim stranger: Pilgrim stranger, 6 vv., Scottish melody
3. When the storms of life are ranging: Stand by me, 5 vv.
4. Courage, my soul: The storm is passing over, 4 vv.
5. Nothing between, 4 vv.
6. Since I began to serve the Lord: I'm going there, 6 vv.
7. You ask me where I get the joys: My secret of joy, 6 vv.
8. I've wandered in the darkness: Today, 4 vv.
9. It may be a brother: Someone is waiting for me, 4 vv.
10. I often wonder why it is: It may be the best for me, 4 vv.
11. Beams of heaven: Some day, 4 vv.
12. The hills of life: The Lord will make the way, 5 vv.
13. I have found at last a Savior, 5 vv. (first line reads '"the", not "a" Savior')
14. This world is one great battlefield: I'll overcome some day, 6 vv.
15. I am thinking of friends: What are they doing in heaven?, 4 vv.
16. Christ is the way, 5 vv., music by Charles A. Tindley, Jr.
17. Ever since I have been living: A better home, 5 vv.
18. We are often tossed and driven: We'll understand it better by and by, 4 vv.
19. When the pathway of duty: I will go, if my Father holds my hand, 5 vv.
20. If the world from you withhold: Leave it there, 4 vv.
21. I am free from condemnation: I believe it, 4 vv.
22. Come, whosoever feels the need: Your faith has saved you, 6 vv.
23. I'm on my way: Joyous anticipation, 6 vv.
24. There is a land that is free: Will you be there?, 5 vv.
25. If the Savior wants somebody: "Here am I, send me" Isaiah 6:8, 4 vv.
26. I hear of a city: The home of the soul, 5 vv.
27. What if all the world was given unto me: I'll be satisfied, 4 vv.
28. Lifetime is like a single day: He'll take you through, 6 vv.
29. I have found the peace of heaven: Just today, 3 vv.
30. If your life in days gone by: Let Jesus fix it for you, 5 vv.
31. Thou, O Christ, my Lord and King: In me, 6 vv.
32. Come, saints and sinners: The heavenly union, 5 vv.
33. I am a poor pilgrim of sorrow: The pilgrim's Song, 6 vv.
34. Here I may be weak and poor: God will provide for me, 5 vv.
35. The world of forms and changes: After awhile, 5 vv.
36. One day, a wayward boy: A stranger cut the rope, 4 vv.
37. I can see down yonder: Mountain top dwelling, 3 vv., music by Charles A. Tindley, Jr
38. I have heard of a tree: Heaven's Christmas Tree, 5 vv.
39. Like the action of the ground: Spiritual springtime, 6 vv.
40. A better day is coming, 4 vv.
41. I am thinking of the danger: Saved and satisfied, 5 vv., music by Frederick J. Tindley
42. Come, everyone that loves the Lord: Our suffering Jesus, 6 vv.
43. If some disease has robbed you: Go talk with Jesus about it, 4 vv.
44. There was Naaman the leper: Go wash in the beautiful stream, 4 vv.
45. My life, as a year: From youth to old age, 5 vv., music by J. Chandler Wright
46. You have waited too long: Have you crossed the line?, 6 vv.

Subject: Lyr Add: A BETTER DAY IS COMING (C A Tindley)
From: Haruo
Date: 01 May 11 - 09:56 PM

A BETTER DAY IS COMING
Charles Albert Tindley

A better day is coming,
The morning draweth nigh,
When girded right with holy might
Shall overthrow the wrong.
When Christ our Lord shall listen
To ev'ry plaintive sigh,
And stretch his hand o'er ev'ry land
In justice by and by.

Refrain:

'Tis coming by and by, [yes, by and by,]
'Tis coming by and by, [and by,]
A better day is coming, the morning draweth nigh,
'Tis coming by and by,
'Tis coming by and by, [and by,]
The welcome dawn is hast'ning on,
'Tis coming by and by, [and by.]

The boast of haughty error
No more shall fill the land,
While men enraged, their pow'rs engaged,
To kill their fellow man,
But God the Lord shall triumph,
And Satan's host shall fly,
For wrong must cease and righteousness
Shall conquer by and by.

(Refrain ...)

No more will angry nations
In deadly conflict meet,
While children cry and parents die
In conquest or defeat,
For Jesus Christ the Captain,
Shall give the battle cry,
The Holy Ghost will lead the host
To vict'ry by and by.

(Refrain ...)

No more shall lords and rulers
Their helpless victims press,
And bar the door against the poor,
And leave them in distress,
But God, the King of Glory,
Who hears the ravens cry,
Will give command that ev'ry man
Have plenty by and by.

(Refrain ...)

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MIDI (melody line only, but with the phrases in square brackets added from the tenor line)

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I've given the text as it appears in Sing of Justice, Sing of Peace, the conference materials from the 2010 convention of the Hymn Society in the United States and Canada, where this hymn was featured in the Tuesday evening Hymn Festival, "Unsung Hymns by Black and Unknown Bards". When I sing it I emend the second line of the first verse to "The morning hast'neth on," and (v. 2) "engaged" to "engage". I am seeking a nondisruptive, gender-inclusive alternative to "man" in v. 4 ("men/man" in v. 2 seems to me less urgent).

Haruo

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 02:41 AM

The Storm Is Passing Over is another.

Subject: RE: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 02:39 AM

Here are links to a few Tindley texts that have appeared in various Mudcat threads; none, as far as searching can tell, is in the DT:

• I'll Overcome Some Day


• Stand by Me


• We'll Understand It Better By and By


• What Are They Doing in Heaven Today?

Subject: Lyr Add: HEAVEN'S CHRISTMAS TREE (C A Tindley)
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 02:20 AM

Let's start off with Tindley's best known Christmas hymn, Heaven's Christmas Tree:

HEAVEN'S CHRISTMAS TREE
Charles A. Tindley, 1915

I have heard of a tree,
a great Christmas tree,
It was fixed in yon Bethlehem's stall.
The blessings of heaven
for you and for me,
A Christmas present for all.

(Refrain:)
There is a package for me on that tree,
A precious token that someone loves me,
O yes, I can see, on Calvary's Tree,
That there is a package for me.

There is one I behold,
in letters of gold,
It hangs on a limb near to me,
'Tis labeled "salvation,
and Jesus, I'm told,
has bought that package for me.

(Refrain:)

There is one just above,
it's title is love,
It is marked by a deep crimson stain,
for there it was tied by the
Lord when he died,
and glory to his dear name.

(Refrain:)

Another I see,
it must be for me,
The words "I will help you I read,
While holding His hand,
by faith I can stand,
and this is the package I need.

(Refrain:)

There are many, I'm sure,
but just this one more
I speak of above all the rest
It spells happy home,
with God near the throne,
A place where the weary shall rest.

(Refrain:)

MIDI

Subject: Charles Albert Tindley songs (hymns)
From: Haruo
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 02:06 AM

This is a thread intended to collect the hymns of Charles Albert Tindley (Wikipedia; Cyber Hymnal™. Discussion is welcome, of course, and queries, and references/links, but mainly I'm aiming to do Lyr Add type stuff here.

Haruo