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Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding

Les in Chorlton 29 Apr 11 - 01:25 PM
Jack Campin 29 Apr 11 - 01:37 PM
Steve Gardham 29 Apr 11 - 04:44 PM
Seayaker 29 Apr 11 - 04:59 PM
Dave the Gnome 29 Apr 11 - 05:48 PM
DMcG 29 Apr 11 - 06:06 PM
MGM·Lion 30 Apr 11 - 12:50 AM
Little Robyn 30 Apr 11 - 02:57 AM
Hesk 30 Apr 11 - 03:42 AM
Les in Chorlton 30 Apr 11 - 04:27 AM
MGM·Lion 30 Apr 11 - 04:48 AM
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Subject: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 01:25 PM

Which is most English?

L in C#
Off to a really goos party


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 01:37 PM

They let women into weddings, which kinda weighs against their authentic Englishness.

On the other hand, Rowan Williams tried to make up for it in this one, as a really impressive Betty.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 04:44 PM

Nice one, Jack.
I would guess that royal weddings in England have been going on for a lot longer than the morris, but don't quote me. I understand that morris is supposed to have been a relatively recent continental import, and yes I know the current royals are also a continental import, but I think all the ones currently alive were born here.

I hope you don't get goosed at your goos party, Les.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Seayaker
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 04:59 PM

I would think that both are equally English and it appears that Mumming Plays are more of a recent continental import than Morris.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 05:48 PM

What's a goos party, Les? :-)

MP


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Apr 11 - 06:06 PM

If you mean royal weddings that the plebians get involved in to any significant extent, I suspect its pretty recent - probably it is not until rapid, mass media really got a hold. I'm not very up on history but I seem to remember that the royals before Victoria were held in very low regard and, after Albert's death the politicians feared that she was such a recluse the monarchy might not survive unless they could persuade her to be more visible


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 30 Apr 11 - 12:50 AM

Re recent advent of morris ~~ there have been various threads on that: don't forget, e.g., that early C17 painting of Thameside in the Armoury of the Fitzwiliam Museum showing morris being danced ~

http://www.unh.edu/music/Icon/ipatks.htm ~~~ Flemish, ca. 1620. Morris Dancers by the Thames at Richmond. Cambridge, Fitzwilliam Museum. The five dancers are accompanied by a player of pipe and tabor

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Little Robyn
Date: 30 Apr 11 - 02:57 AM

Our telly news showed a video of Morris Dancers in Bucklebury - Kate's home village?
They get the best of both worlds.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Hesk
Date: 30 Apr 11 - 03:42 AM

Les , obviously, made a mistake.
He was either off to a "Goo" party, or else a "Goose" party. Both sound very traditional and a lot of fun, even though you might not tell your mother about it.
Morris dancing and royal weddings don't sound half as good.
How did you get on?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 30 Apr 11 - 04:27 AM

It was a very goos party with loads of lemonade - another tonight then tunes in the Garden of The Beech Sunday and a Klesmer concert with dancing and another party on Monday.

I'll so goos I wont be able to speak cearly at all.

I understand that the Morris was a courtly enertainment that escaped into the countryside about 5 or 6 C ago and has been kept alive by ordinary people. Not much a choice really.

If anybody has any doubts about the royals - just remember what they, especially Charlie boy, and the press did to Will's mum.

Cheers

L in C#


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 30 Apr 11 - 04:48 AM

Well, yes, Les. But remember at the same time what the present HM's parents did to keep the populace cheered during the WWii blitzes, e.g. They refused point blank to leave London. Their visit to inspect the damage to my N London school the day after it had been bombed out in 1940 was an immense morale-booster. Were you around at the time? Faults & virtues, like all institutions; a bit of credit-where-due would do no harm.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Folklore: The Morris v That Wedding
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 30 Apr 11 - 05:30 AM

I suppose I deserve all I get really since I started this thread.

Charles was simply a liar and an adulterer. And since you ask I am the first, on a minor scale, but not the second. Loads of people around Charles conived for a very long time and between then drove D mad, more or less.

The Morris v That Wedding - neither represent England that I experience but one is very old and great fun and the other is very rich people with loads of privilage not doing anything much at all.

Cheers

L in C#


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