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Subject: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Genie
Date: 03 May 11 - 07:46 PM

The Republicans, especially the talking heads, are coming up with an amazing array of reaction to and commentary on the reports of Bin Laden's death. Here are just a few I've heard in the last 2 days, from politicians, commentators, etc.:


1. Bin Laden wasn't really killed. This is a fake news story to distract the public and to boost Obama's popularity.

2. Bin Laden was killed Obama was wrong to afford him the respect of being buried in keeping with Islamic tradition.

3. Bin Laden was killed, but the credit goes to:
    a. the military - especially the Navy Seals -
    b. the CIA
    c. George W Bush (because he was President on 9-11-01 and
          launched the "war" in Afghanistan and even, for a while,
         actively pursued Bin Laden
or
    d. all of the above, but with little or no involvement
          by Commander-in-Chief Obama.
or
    e. all of the above, but over the objections and resistance
          from President Obama

4. Bin Laden was killed, but we found out where he was because he
      was waterboarded 8 years ago (even though he did not divulge
       any key infomation while being subjected to that kind
       of interrogation). This illustrates that torture is lawful and justified
       and produces valuable intelligence, and the credit still goes to
       the Bush 41 administration.

5. Bin Laden was killed, and Obama ordered it, but he's a
    murderer because a few other people, including a woman
    Bin Laden was using as a shield was also killed in the shootout.
    (Killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis to take out Saddam Hussein
    was of course sound military policy and completely justified.

6. Bin Laden was killed, and Obama ordered it, but that makes him
    an international criminal, since Congress did not authorize the
    attack on the compound in Pakistan, and besides, where does
    the Commander-In-Chief get off coordinating or directing
    military operations with our armed forces in a country in which
    we are "at war," with the aim of killing or capturing a terrorist
    leader, anyway?
    And who is Obama going to kill next to further his own political
    agenda — Qadaffi? Castro? Chavez? Glenn Beck? Rush Limbaugh?

7. Bin Laden was killed, by order of Obama, who deliberately timed the attack
    - with amazing precision - to interrupt last Sunday's episode of "The Apprentice."


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 11 - 07:56 PM

Bottom line is that the Repubs don't much have a handle on reality and would accuse Obama of trying to put doctors out of work if he came up with a cure for cancer...

Their #1 goal is to get a black man out of their "Whites Only" House...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 May 11 - 08:03 PM

1. It would be more interesting—and credible—if you would attribute each of those "spins" to specific people.

2. When was Bin Laden ever waterboarded? Did we waterboard him so he would tell us his exact location? How did that work exactly?


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: frogprince
Date: 03 May 11 - 08:38 PM

The actual waterboarding spin is that at least some information that proved useful in finding him was obtained from those detainees who were waterboarded.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Genie
Date: 03 May 11 - 08:40 PM

Actually, I thin their opposition to Obama is based in racism only on the part of a fairly small minority. But the corporatists, the "anti-government-ists," the "pro-lifers," the NRA crowd, and those who just plain want to retain or regain power for their party are eager to capitalize on that racism.   
They would be, I think, acting pretty much the same way if Hilary Clinton or Al Gore were in Obama's place. Look how much time & money they spent trying to get rid of or disempower Bill Clinton for 8 years.   (And let's not forget that when Clinton tried to use the CIA or the military to capture Bin Laden, the Republicans opposed that action, too - calling it "wag the dog.")


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: kendall
Date: 03 May 11 - 08:42 PM

Those cement heads will never cut him any slack.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Genie
Date: 03 May 11 - 08:53 PM

Jim, I have heard interview clips of people expressing all of those points, and the sources are clearly identified. I just haven't kept a running tally of each source to connect with each spin. The information is readily available via an internet search or by listening to Fox "News" or right wing talk radio hosts if you want to verify it.

I can tell you, without going back to do the internet search or replay a lot of podcasts, that these are some of the sources:

1. There is a whole "deather" movement growing. People who say they doubt that the people shot included Bin Laden.

2. I heard an interview on Thom Hartmann's radio show this morning, with a (non-Muslim) guest whose main point was that Bin Laden did not reflect true, non-Jihadist Islam and that it was a slap in the face to afford Bin Laden's body the respect that Islam would prescribe.   

3. a. Sarah Palin, Bill O'Reilly, and quite a few others on Fox or talk radio
    b. several commentators and Republican spokespeople on Fox
    c. just about all the Republican talking heads
or
    d. same group
or
    e. I don't recall offhand who it was, but I did read commentary making this point

4. Rumsfeld and Cheney, Bill O'Reilly (who "learned" this from one of his Republican guests).

5. I've read this criticism from both the left and the right, including a number of bloggers and commentators who tend to find fault with everything Obama does.

6. This was, for one, a right-wing talk radio host named Napolitano


7. Donald Trump


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Genie
Date: 03 May 11 - 09:19 PM

BTW, some of the "deathers" - people who insist on seeing the photographs of Bin Laden's corpse or some other sort of proof that he is really dead -- include some liberals, Democrats, etc., too.   This is understandable, but there are very sound reasons, having to do with not wanting to provoke more retaliatory attacks or alienate Muslims who, so far, have not sided with Al Quaeda, for not releasing a photograph that would spread virally around the 'net in minutes and be met with all sorts of sweeping anti-Islamic responses. Sometimes the public's "right to know" conflicts with intelligence or diplomatic operations.   
I, for one, don't feel I really need to see the proof of Bin Laden's death anytime in the near future.   But then, I don't have a need to discredit Obama.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 May 11 - 09:56 PM

Do you think his death certificate, certified by the county coroner, would be sufficient?

If he ain't dead, how's come the Al Quaida crowd are singing "Just you wait, 'enry 'iggins!"?

You don't suppose that the Talking Heads believe that Osama bin Laden will rise from the sea tomorrow, do you? I mean, it will be three days after his death and all that, and there are some, I'm sure, who would appreciate it if he did.

As for Obama, he's put many good, solid Americans out of work. People who used to make bin Laden targets, bumper stickers, and tee shirts! Economic recovery, nothin'! Just more unemployment!


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 May 11 - 10:20 PM

I like the story that Bil Ladens body has been frozen for years waiting for just the right moment to pronounce him dead.

WWGBD? - What would George Bush Do? He's have Bil Ladens head on a pike in front of the White House for everyone to look at.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 11 - 10:28 PM

I'm with you, Genie... I don't need to see the pics but the loonies will get the media time and the right winged media (CBS, NBC and ABC)will make this the story... Not that Obama got him...

The Republicans ought to be ashamed of themselves... But they don't give a rat's ass about anything but **********power*********...

So, let's play "Revisionism", change the subject and hope that the American people are as dumb as they hope...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Ebbie
Date: 04 May 11 - 12:11 AM

I read bloggers' comments about as much as I could stomach following an article. To a man - or a woman - the right wing insisted that it was George W. Bush who deserved the credit- for the plan he had put into motion. They did not address the length of time it took for his plan to bear fruit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: J-boy
Date: 04 May 11 - 12:27 AM

You're right Kendall, they will never cut him any slack. I and many others hated Bush the Second but never with as much vehemence as the right-wing have shown towards Obama. His detractors will never admit it, but having a black president with a "foreign" sounding name drives them completely mad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 11 - 12:32 AM

Party politics is a virulent and deadly disease. It causes selective blindness, gross prejudice, hatred, division, irreconcilable differences, irrationality, and insanity. It will not end until there are no political parties left in existence at all, just an elected national assembly of non-partisan, completely independent representatives who are beholden to NO party machine, but only to the constituents who elected them...and to the nation they serve.

That is not going to happen in my lifetime. Political parties will continue to corrupt and dominate the political process. They will continue to divide and conquer the public.

And I know it.

And that's that.

But I pray that it WILL happen someday. (just as the absolute monarchies which once ruled everywhere were finally brought to an end. Every form of irrational political tyrrany finally ends...but it may take a very long time before the end comes for the present form of political madness...the partisan system.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:16 AM

Thank you, Little Hawk for addressing this bit of lunacy!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:34 AM

The above post, I might add, does NOT indicate "colorless neutrality" on my part. I utterly detest the Republicans to the very depth of my being...while I am merely somewhat disgusted with the Democrats. Like comparing 10 to 5 on the scale of disgust. I would vote Democratic if I were forced to choose between them and the Republicans.

But the main point is: I think the very idea of having political parties was wrong from the getgo. It was a very bad idea. It should never have been done. It creates endless trouble and terrible corruption. It should not have been done in Canada or Great Britain or anywhere else either. It should never have been done anywhere.

And that is the point I am making. You do not need political parties to have liberty, freedom, and representative democracy. All you need is a number of independent nonpartisan candidates running in each riding at specific intervals (say 2 years or 4 years), universal suffrage, and an assembly formed from the candidates who get elected each time. That assembly is fully capable of representing the public and conducting all the necessary work of government, debating the issues, voting on those issue, and passing legislation....with NO political parties present to poison the process by dividing and conquering both the population and the elected assembly itself.

Party politics is war. It's permanent fulltime war without guns, but with all the malice aforethought that characterizes war. And as Lincoln said: "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

Our present modern societies are houses divided against themselves BY the very political parties that have taken them over. We are living in the midst of an enormous historical error in human governance. It has replaced the previous error which was rule by absolute monarchs. In some ways it is better than that was. But it's still an enormous error. We can do far better than what we are doing now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:52 AM

May I add, that once an INDIVIDUAL who believes in something, bands together with other individuals, all claiming the same 'cause', there begins a 'power struggle' to be the one individual who is MORE representative of the group, than the others, in the group. This is usually determined by who can lie about it the best, and/or deceive the rest of the group, that this is true. Once he rises to the top of the group, he then is their representative...and runs for elected office! Then he lies, to gain financial support for his efforts, and once elected, owes those 'donors', for their 'contributions'. The higher the office, the bigger the bribes!..Now to hide that, all he has to do is lie some more!..then get the deceived 'party hacks' to defend him, and act appalled that anyone would, could or should think their guy is full of shit! Now it becomes a contest to which of the parties have the best liar!...Then once in office, the electorate acts surprised, and disillusioned, that he was just like the guy from the 'other' party, that he just replaced!!!
Right guys????

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Genie
Date: 04 May 11 - 02:06 AM

Hawk and GfS, I don't disagree about the destructiveness of having political parties -- ESPECIALLY in a 2-party, winner-take-all system like we have in the US.

But we've had this system for centuries, and I don't think any partisanship before has ever rivaled the near-total vehemence and vilification of "the other" that we've been seeing on the part of so many Repbubicans since the Clinton administration and, even more so, continuing with John Kerry's candidacy and into Obama's administration.

I think that phenomenon has a lot to do with the increasing convergence of political and financial power and the emergence of bigger and more powerful trans-national corporations. The stakes of the game are escalating, in terms of money, power, and control.   And you don't "win" in that kind of power game by doing so much as giving your "opponents" credit where it's due, even (especially?) when they do exactly what your "side" would have done in the same situation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 May 11 - 02:21 AM

Genie: .."and I don't think any partisanship before has ever rivaled the near-total vehemence and vilification of "the other", that we've been seeing since..the increasing convergence of political and financial power, and the emergence of bigger and more powerful trans-national corporations... (especially?) when they do exactly what your "side" does in the same situation."

Now that makes more sense!!

"What would you do, if you sang out of tune...
You get by with a little help from your friends!..."

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST
Date: 04 May 11 - 02:26 AM

Poster appears to be Akenaton.
Simply "tribalism", without any of the redeeming features of primitive tribal societies.
Anti-democratic, manipulatory, anti freedom.
George Orwell said it all and his words do not only apply to "totalitarian regimes"

Well said Little Hawk and GfS.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 May 11 - 02:29 AM

Well, 'Guest'(with no name), you're welcome!

Hey, let 'froggie-face' and 'Greg F' know you are not me, pretending to be Little Hawk, pretending to be me!..pretending to be you!!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 11 - 02:52 AM

Yes, Genie, it has been getting worse in recent decades...probably because the stakes are higher now...and the visible cracks in our society are getting a lot wider, because our society has long passed its cultural and organizational peak and is sliding into decadence and decline. Under such conditions politicians are forced to lie more outrageously than is the case in more prosperous and civilized times.

I think that the party-based political system has become very decadent, just as some other systems did before it. It's ripe for a fall. We are living in the days of its decline, so the divisions it provokes are getting wider and less temperate, general disillusionment in government is growing deeper all the time, and the politicians are flailing around trying to cover their asses with misleading rhetoric while they mortgage the whole society to hold off gigantic debts that simply cannot be paid.

Where will it end? Well, not any place that's very nice, I don't think. When I was a young man it looked like the world was going to get better, and the possibilities seemed wonderful. It doesn't look that way now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: J-boy
Date: 04 May 11 - 03:42 AM

Not to get too optimistic LH, but isn't the fact that you and I and all our fellow highly evolved primates can communicate like this wondrous? Twenty years ago this thing we call the internet scarcely existed. Humanity is binding together like never before. The possibilities are still wonderful. The simple fact that you are reading my inane post is proof of that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 May 11 - 08:01 AM

Well, while y'all are banding up your evolving asses, please note that the great unwashed American public has just given Obama an 85% approval rating on the ObL greasing................

Politics are matters of methodology and until you change the method ain't jack shit gonna' change.........


Spaw..........totally unevolved


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Wesley S
Date: 04 May 11 - 08:26 AM

Fox TV and AM radio are both supporting the view that Bin Laden never would have been caught if it hadn't been for the enhanced interrogation methods used at Gitmo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Lox
Date: 04 May 11 - 08:50 AM

Obama has let us all down.

Let the repubs say what they like.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 May 11 - 08:55 AM

Trump is right. LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 09:00 AM

There is no spin, there are no talking points, there is no reason to besmirch Republicans for Obama's blatent pandering to the anti genocide lobby for a pity bump in the polls.

This guy Obama didn't create the Patriot act or advanced interrogation techniques that led to the Bush era trained Navy Seals, it was George W Bush.

This creepy guy Barak is going to stand on Ground Zero where President George W Bush heroicly hailed the crowd on 9-12 "I hear you America"! Its positively disgusting.

George W Bush saved America while this juvenile Barak guy let 9-11 happen in the first place. Taking credit from the brave GWB is a ludricrous display of cowardice and lieing.

The killing of bin Laden will have a very short shelf life compared to the change that George W Bush and Dick Cheney brought about by revamping the COnstitution, setting up secret CIA prisons, rendition, Patriot Acts, Enhanced interrogation, hiring 80 mercenary contractors like Halliburton and Black Water and creating over 200 addition agencies to deal with terrorism with 880,000 new top secret clearence employees.

You can't spin the facts my friends. Maybe when this African guy currently claiming the Presidency will grow up one day and realize who the adults are in the war on terrorism and give credit to the Bush administration as one would respect their parents. The reality is that Barak does not have parents and George W Bush has both a loving mother and father.

This pitiful bump in the polls for this pretender will soon evaporate. People will soon see that Barak sadly used the US miitary to distract people from looking closly at the newest birth certificate and secondly to pre empt the last 20 minutes of Donald Trump's show to announce the supposed death of Obama bin Laden.

THis is what the adults in the room already know!



( Whadduya think?   Did I capture the correct tone and "facts" the Republican media is currently spewing?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 May 11 - 09:52 AM

Do you think his death certificate, certified by the county coroner, would be sufficient?

Only if its the long form death certificate, certified by Donald Dump.

... once an INDIVIDUAL who believes in something, bands together with other individuals...

You Betcha, InSanity- beware of stupid people in groups.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 10:22 AM

Additionaly we hear on FOX NEws how this guy Obama (actual phrase) has only stirred up a hornet's nest that put all Americans at risk.
THis was only a symbolic act regarding a symbolic individual but the killing of Osaba bin Laden will only create more acts of terror against America. Osama has made all of us less safe!

On FOX cable news, the mention of the commando raid in Pakistan must now be sandwiched between the claim of creating more terrorism and credit for George W Bush and our armed forces. Obama is refered to as the President more often than by his full name and title for PResident George W Bush.

Half of the confusion regarding details of the Navy Seals raid on the compund were first made by FOX news. I have screen shots of the various false statements that were made the following morning. They now blame on the administration.

Obama has ordered the summary executions of Somali Pirates, 30 terrorist leaders are killed by drone strikes, tripled troops in Afghanistan   and now directed the killing Osama bin Laden in accordence with his campaign promise. Republicans may try to play poker with this guy at their own peril but it looks like they will lose their shirts regardless of their lies, distortions, disrespect and pathetic attempts to rally thier base with racism.
Yet Republicans will drone on with


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 10:53 AM

the same old crap


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 11:07 AM

The one best way to defeat OBama is to collude to keep gas prices as high as possible until November 15th.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Bill D
Date: 04 May 11 - 11:20 AM

"In his excitement following President Obama's speech Sunday night announcing the death of Osama Bin Laden, one Washington, D.C. Fox news anchor misspoke...a lot.

"President Obama speaking from the East Room of the White House," the anchor says as the president walks away from the podium, "telling the nation and the world that President Obama is, in fact, dead."

The video shows his stunned co-anchor quickly realize the mistake. She tries to get his attention, although he continues before realizing what he said."

And Fox actually managed to use the phrase "Obama bin Laden" in its captions. EITHER they did it on purpose to keep that 'idea' alive, or someone there is so caught up in the idea that it just is now automatic to say it that way.....either way, it makes me shudder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 11 - 11:56 AM

Same old negative partisan lunacy and bullshit. What did you expect?

Their job, after all, is to denigrate and destroy one another. That's how you win and how you make the other party lose. It's even how you make competing people in your OWN party lose (during the primaries). You denigrate, slander, and destroy them. The same crap happens up here in Canada between not 2, but 4 parties! And it just resulted in an election where a party that is only backed by 40% of the Canadian public (and actively detested by the other 60%) has won a majority of the seats in our parliament!!!!!!!!

And you thought you Americans had things to complain about. ;-D

The party that won our election is a rightwing party, somewhat like the Republicans. It's now ruling over a centre-left inclined population that regularly gets its 60% vote split 3 ways between 3 different parties while the ONE right wing party walks away with the prize.

Why does this happen? Because every goddamn political party thinks only about its own selfish power agenda, NOT about the nation or the public it's supposedly there to serve, and the 3 centre-left parties I alluded to would rather die, apparently, then surrender their prideful separate identities and form a single new party to represent the 60% of the Canadian public who are being shut out of the process by having their vote split 3 ways.

Insanity. And it's happening because of the political parties.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Genie
Date: 04 May 11 - 12:09 PM

Donuel "( Whadduya think?   Did I capture the correct tone and "facts" the Republican media is currently spewing?)"

Yeah, pretty much.

BTW, I don't fault anyone for saying "Obama" when they mean "Osama." The names virtually invite spoonerisms (e.g., Obama Sin Laden). I myself even initially posted the news on my Facebook page that "Obama is dead. Obama to address the nation shortly."
(Fortunately, unlike Mudcat & other sites, Facebook lets you delete your own posts, so I caught my mistake almost immediately and corrected it.)
But how do you get from "Osama" or "Osama Bin Laden" to "PRESIDENT Obama?"???


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 12:15 PM

Sen Kennedy confused Ossma with Obama 6 times in one statement, but he had a brain tumor.

Glen Beck yesterday substituted killing Obama for killing Usama.

btw have you noticed only FOX news spells USAMA
while everyone else spells Osama?


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 11 - 12:24 PM

I think it's mostly just mental laziness producing familiair auditory patterns, rather like a parrot does.

Example:

Virtually every American says "harry carry" when referring to a well-known Japanese expression for suicide. The real expression is "hara kiri".

That's pronounced Harrah kee-ree, as should be obvious from the spelling "hara kiri". It's not harry carry! Why do Americans say "harry carry"? Well, it's easy to say because it rhymes in a singsong manner like "see ya later, alligator". To notice that it's actually hara kiri demands a little careful attention. To say harry carry does not. Thus the lazy and basically not very attentive mind just morphs hara kiri into harry carry without even noticing.

It's usually just a lazy, hurrying, not very attentive mind that juxtaposes "Osama" and "Obama", and it doesn't even notice while it's doing it. Why doesn't it notice? Well, probably because it's already fully occupied with the next thing it's about to say...


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 12:39 PM

yep, I've done it too :(


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:28 PM

FOX news is now calling Obama's command raid a huge blunder for not kidnapping Usama's wife for special interrrogation later. They could not believe that a Black Hawk helicopter couldn't take her on top of all the computers body and armed troops.

"THere is always room for one more person on a helicopter just like we can always get another child in the van no matter how full it is. His wife doesn;t look like she weighs even a hundred pounds"

THe talking heads, busts and legs for this new complaint comes in the form of two fake blondes in little black dresses. These insights were made by Monica Crowley and Kelly's replacement who is also a fake blonde who wears little black dresses for her show.

FOX has the highest density of fake blondes and pretty faces of any network.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:36 PM

The decision was announced.

Obama will not release the death pictures of Usama.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:42 PM

Oh, dang! And here I was, panting to see them... (satirical remark)


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: MartinRyan
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:51 PM

Why am I reminded of Farmer Michael Hayes?

Regards

p.s. must tidy up the text of that DT version. Placenames are a bugger...


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Donuel
Date: 04 May 11 - 01:57 PM

That is a fine looking documentation of history and song.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 04 May 11 - 02:09 PM

The real story of how they found Bin Laden must be that John McCain, who stated repeatedly during thw 2008 campaign thst "I know how to get him", was ovrcomw ith a fit of non-partisan patriotism, broke down and told Obama the secret.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 04 May 11 - 02:44 PM

He's become an NRD - not really dead. like Billy the Kid, John Dillinger, and Elvis.

The CIA have a NRD file that can't be opened for five hundred years. Its top secret, I could be killed for telling you this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Severn
Date: 04 May 11 - 10:00 PM

I can see why some people, based on past goverment and CIA track records could doubt the reports of Osama's death, BUT....

As for some of these conservative good Christian folks who are over-laden with skepticism and who are clamoring to see the pictures of Bin Laden's corpse as evidence rather than accept the claims as an act of faith as the ONLY means of proof that he's actually a "Has-Bin" Laden, where were THEY and why didn't we hear complaints from THEM a few weekends ago at EASTER?.....


Can they expect to have it BOTH ways?


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: frogprince
Date: 04 May 11 - 10:29 PM

OMG, Severn; do yoou mean that the Easter Bunny has been reported dead?!??!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 04 May 11 - 10:49 PM

LH ... "The real expression is "hara kiri".

oh

I thought it the real expression was seppuku

biLL ... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 May 11 - 04:05 AM

As I posted before...you're arguing over 'details' given out by the administration's 'leakers', and the press conferences....just like Jessica Lynch

So slow down, take it slower!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Republicans 'spin' Bin Laden death rpt
From: Bobert
Date: 05 May 11 - 07:35 AM

Here's the insanity to the Repub logic:

"Well, the photos are going to get leaked anyway so why not just release them now?"

Did the "stealth helicopter" get leaked???

Hmmmmmm??? One heck of a lot more people knew about it and from being involved in it's design and building and yet it was a not leaked???

The assumption that the few folks who have access to the bin Laden photos will leak them has no basis...

Sorry, Repubs...

Bad answer!!!

B~


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