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Irish Blood English Heart

GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) 13 May 11 - 05:17 AM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 13 May 11 - 05:57 AM
MartinRyan 13 May 11 - 06:22 AM
Jim McLean 13 May 11 - 06:29 AM
GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) 13 May 11 - 06:35 AM
Jim McLean 13 May 11 - 08:08 AM
Dave Hanson 13 May 11 - 08:28 AM
Jorrox 13 May 11 - 08:31 AM
Jim McLean 13 May 11 - 01:32 PM
Dave Hanson 13 May 11 - 02:36 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 13 May 11 - 05:34 PM
morning wood 14 May 11 - 02:46 AM
Joe Offer 14 May 11 - 03:05 AM
Jim McLean 14 May 11 - 06:05 AM
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Subject: Irish Blood English Hears
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 13 May 11 - 05:17 AM

At 11.00 am (UK time) today there's a programme on BBC Radio 4 about the cultural relationships between Britain and Ireland. It's presented by Joseph O'Connor. Should we worth a listen.


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 13 May 11 - 05:57 AM

an unpleasant metaphor. Sounds like a post mortem report - so that's why the liver rejected it!


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: MartinRyan
Date: 13 May 11 - 06:22 AM

Kind of Offaly Light, I suppose...


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: Jim McLean
Date: 13 May 11 - 06:29 AM

Hugh McDiarmid's poem The Weapon:

Scots steel tempered wi' Irish fire
Is the weapon that I desire.


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 13 May 11 - 06:35 AM

'Scots steel tempered wi' Irish fire'

Even better if paid for with English subsidies?


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: Jim McLean
Date: 13 May 11 - 08:08 AM

I think Guest should look here: The Big Lie


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 13 May 11 - 08:28 AM

Interseting stuff on the programme ' Coast ' last night on BBC2 about how neutral Ireland had secretly supported England and the USA during the Second world war.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: Jorrox
Date: 13 May 11 - 08:31 AM

English subsidies? Good on ye' Jim for picking that one up. Let's each run our own economies and we'll see who fares best.


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: Jim McLean
Date: 13 May 11 - 01:32 PM

I don't want to be too pedantic Dave, but Ireland helped the UK although I suppose this also helped England which is part of Great Britain. We should remember that England, like Scotland is a region of the UK and not an independent State ... yet.


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 13 May 11 - 02:36 PM

Good point Jim.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 13 May 11 - 05:34 PM

Plenty of Irishmen fought and died and gave everything in World war 2. Admittedly fighting in divisions of the english army. Governments ...who bloody cares what they did. they just get us into the mess. Many Irish families gave the full measure when it came to combatting Hitler.


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: morning wood
Date: 14 May 11 - 02:46 AM

Song of the same title Irish blood English heart


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Subject: ADD: Irish Blood English Heart (Morrissey)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 May 11 - 03:05 AM

Morning Wood linked to this YouTube video of Morrissey's "Irish Blood, English Heart." It's a powerful song. Was this song used on the BBC 4 programme?
-Joe-




IRISH BLOOD, ENGLISH HEART
(Steven Morrissey, Alain Gordon Whyte)
(as sung by Morrissey)

Irish blood, English heart, This I'm made of
There is no one on earth I'm afraid of
And no regime can buy or sell me

I've been dreaming of a time when
To be English is not to be baneful
To be standing by the flag not feeling shameful, Racist or partial

Irish blood, English heart, This I'm made of
There is no one on earth I'm afraid of
And I will die with both of my hands untied

I've been dreaming of a time when
The English are sick to death of Labour, And Tories
And spit upon the name Oliver Cromwell
And denounce this royal line that still salute him,
And will salute him forever.


Source: http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Irish-Blood-English-Heart-lyrics-Morrissey/B5B77E8602D1BAED48256E9200102C4A
It's one of "those" lyrics sites, so I don't completely trust the transcription. Sounds pretty close to what I heard on the YouTube video.


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Subject: RE: Irish Blood English Heart
From: Jim McLean
Date: 14 May 11 - 06:05 AM

Joe, The BBC2 program I watched was about the coast of Ireland and mentioned that Eire allowed the UK to use a short corridor from Northern Ireland through Irish territory to the Altlantic. There were no songs.


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