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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: selby Date: 27 Sep 99 - 01:50 PM To all of you that didn't attend Windy Bottom this weekend you missed a treat apart from the rain Saturday night. Wednesday night at The Jug is nearly upon us and if I can remember how to get there I am going. Is it LEFT or RIGHT or LEFT or RIGHT. Keith |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: roopoo Date: 27 Sep 99 - 02:11 AM Mouldy again. Bill should give at least 5 minutes' warning before he sings 'My Old Man'. I hadn't anything except a sleeve to use! Kat, yes I have been to Wyoming, about 7 years ago and I LOVED it! My husband worked over there for a couple of months (mining engineer) and met Nancy and Dan. The following year we all went, him having sloped over a couple of months earlier to set things up, and had 4 days in Saratoga before hitting the tourist trail and ending back there for another couple of days. I took my box and late one night in the Saratoga Inn they asked me to play. Er... I hadn't had it very long. Funny though, first thing I heard of any note out there was in the hotel: 'Get the beer outa the fridge, the Limey's back!' Followed by, 'Hi Ian, what the hell are you doing here?' and 'Why do you always walk into my bar at this time on a Sunday when we shut early?' Later in the holiday I went in the Buckhorn in Laramie. What a wonderful place. Nancy,knowing we liked the more traditional, (she used to work in the local museum, so understands) gave Ian a recording of Cowboy songs by Michael Martin Murthy and one track includes a 3 verse wersion of 'To Hear the Nightingale Sing'. Don't some songs travel! No chorus though. Bill, I'll see you on Wednesday. Best wishes to all. Mouldy. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: sophocleese Date: 26 Sep 99 - 06:58 PM Well I guess I should introduce myself as well. I'd been using the database for awhile before I started reading the threads. They were fun so I started joining in. I live in the Barrie area of Ontario. I sing, play tin whistle and recorder and occasionally bang on a bodhran. I am learning guitar, slowly. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: bill\sables Date: 26 Sep 99 - 06:00 PM Hi Jeri, It was "My Old Man "the one I sang at Annaps, |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jeri Date: 26 Sep 99 - 05:49 PM Bill, mouldy or anyone who was there, what was the song? |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: bill\sables Date: 26 Sep 99 - 05:30 PM Hi Mouldy , Nice to see you here I hope I didn't upset you too much this afternoon at the concert but you were one of four with tears in their eyes after that song, it is pretty powerfull. I had a great time this weekend and I only heard one complaint and that was that Windy Bottom should be held every month instead of every year. See you at THE JUG on Wednesday. Hi Eric, Your idea of a mudcat gathering in Yorkshire sounds great there were seven catters at Windy Bottom this weekend which I think must be some sort of record for the UK We took a photo to send to bbc for the records. Why not pop over to THE JUG on wednesday night there should be a few of us in there and it is only half an hour from you East along the M62. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Eric@lackford20.freeserve.co.uk Date: 26 Sep 99 - 04:54 PM Hi all,It does seem like Yorkshire is the mudcat capital of the UK. I have been reading/logging on? for over a year now.Since I got wired! or online. Mudcatters seem to be the most helpful folkie folk you will ever meet. Everyone tries to help each other. I noticed the "Old Dun Cow" was back on the list. It was up this time last year. The problem with Mudcat is how much time you spend enjoying like minded people with such diverse ideas but the love of folk music. Try the Cleckheaton folk festival in July 2000. it happens every year. Small but really beutiful. I go every year as I live here. Didn't manage Whitby but did Fylde a couple of weeks ago. Is there going to be a UK mudcat meet somewhere in Yorkshire at sometime? Please let me know. By the way, I play guitar, a bit of banjo, a bit of blues harp and try my hand at anything. Anyone want to work collaboratively or just jam-bear in mind that I ain,t that ggod, but as an old man (well 50!!) I've been into folk since the mid 60's and never lost interest.By the way my wifes parents live in Selby, I used to live in York so I know it quite well. See you keep plucking or strumming or bowing or whatever. Eric-the Viking. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: katlaughing Date: 26 Sep 99 - 02:04 PM Howdy, Mouldy! This is katlaughing, in Casper, just a couple of hours from Saratoga, one of my favourite places in Why-O-Ming. Have you ever been there? Do your friends make music, own a shop, or have a second home there? Do you know about the Old Baldy Club? Oh, and, WELCOME TO THE MUDCAT! kat |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: roopoo Date: 26 Sep 99 - 01:32 PM Yet another newborn Mudcat! I joined yesterday morning, having been urged by Bill Sables, and was just in time to dash out from a concert and photographed with 6 others at a "bit of a do" - aka Windy Bottom - held locally this weekend.Talk about a rose between thorns...! (By the way, nice set this afternoon, Bill, I was crying my eyes out. You sure know how to hit the spot). The reason Keith probably said to turn left to get to the Jug is that he approaches it from the opposite direction to the M62 and therefore turns left! Me, I'm a lucky one, I only live 3 miles away, and it's only that far because a ruddy great river got in the way and we have to go round to the bridge! By the way, whereabouts in Wyoming is katlaughing based? I have a couple of acquaintances in Saratoga. What do I do? I sort of torture the melodeon, play for a NW morris side, occasionally dance for them, sing even worse than I play the box, but if I could remember any words I bet I'd be good at monologues!
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: wildlone Date: 25 Sep 99 - 01:23 PM I might be an idjet but i bear no malice, any links i may post i take from my favourites list our from my own data base on 3.5 floppys. it used to be a 7 inch stiffy but it wore out.***BG***.WL |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Tim Salt Date: 24 Sep 99 - 06:36 PM Hi Keith Many moons ago (about 8 years actually) I lived in Beverley Yorkshire and sang and played at the Selby Club whenever I could get over there. I remember a number of memorable nights (but probably not the really memorable ones if you see what I mean!) I'm now down in Sidmouth, Devon and pretty involved with the local scene and loving every minute. Like you I'm also a new Mudcateer, hopelessly addicted and never cease to be amazed by the combined knowledge and wisdom and how freely and generously this is given. Ta very much! Tim |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: MaryLee Date: 24 Sep 99 - 02:04 AM Yeah, I am finding it addictive, too. There are so many "threads" to follow. I, too, came by at the suggestion of a friend, looking for lyrics. Got 'em, too. Guess I'll wander in and out whenever I have nothing else to do *BG* or when the kitties are not over in their club, CLAW! Love & Mewsic, MaryLee /\/>(^..^)< "If cats could talk, they wouldn't." ~ Nan Porter |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: jon a Date: 23 Sep 99 - 09:37 PM Hi Selby. I was directed here a couple of months ago, I only came to look up some lyrics, now I can't stay away. As a purely camp fire and bathtub singer, I am always going to be in the shadows, but I have been made to feel like part of the whole. Welcome to the pleasure dome!(or something like that anyway.) |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: bbc Date: 23 Sep 99 - 06:55 PM Getting back to the point of the thread, I'd like to say how nice it is to see postings from so many different UK 'cats. Welcome! Hope you will drop by the Mudcat Resources siteto get email addresses, birthdays, photos, & profile pages of Mudcat members. Drop me a line (as some of you already have!) & I'll be glad to add you to the group! best to all, bbc (Barbara in NY)--a good friend of Bill Sables! |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Lonesome EJ Date: 23 Sep 99 - 12:21 AM Mick, I am in agreement with you. G has made some very incisive comments on a variety of topics, and has shown that he is capable of contributing in an intelligent manner. I believe that he either does not agree with the movement of the Forum toward what he perceives as an increasing level of BS, or that he feels left out of what has become an increasingly open and friendly group. Any sympathy that I have for him due to the unique nature of his postings has been eroded by his attacks on people whom I consider good friends. He has a choice in how he interacts with people here- the fact that he insists on putting himself in position of an outcast leads me to believe that he enjoys that role. Is that it, G? |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Big Mick Date: 22 Sep 99 - 11:59 PM I used to enjoy "G" and his different view of things. But when he started scratching and spitting and passing judgement on people because, in his opinion, they weren't up to his intellectual standards, I quit listening. Somehow, he has come to typify the kind of elitism and arrogance that I have spent a lifetime fighting. In plain words, he is a bully. Too bad, really, because I used to like the way he would make us question why we believe as we do. But as long as he persists in his persecution of other citizens of our village, I will not give this person any respect at all. He reminds me of the old "purity of thought" crowd from my earlier days. Which is a very long winded way of saying that I am with you all the way on this one, Rick. All the best, Big Mick |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: catspaw49 Date: 22 Sep 99 - 10:31 PM Yeah, that's all well and good Katmyluv...But it ain't the point and you know it. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: katlaughing Date: 22 Sep 99 - 09:37 PM Thank you, Rick. As I said before, it was a NEWBIE who was called an "IDJET". Whatever, it is not worth my time or energy to bother with. I know where I stand with the majority of the community and feel quite loved and welcome. kat
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Bill D Date: 22 Sep 99 - 09:08 PM and I repeat what I once said...of all the people on Mudcat that participate at all..., I think that 'G' is about the only one who never said who he REALLY was or where he was from..*shrug*..makes one wonder |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: catspaw49 Date: 22 Sep 99 - 02:22 PM ...or Seed or others at his whim. Thank You Rick....you're not alone. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: selby Date: 22 Sep 99 - 01:15 PM I do know my left from my right I just get confused at Times IT IS DEFINETLY RIGHT AS BILL said apoligeeeeees Keith |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jeri Date: 22 Sep 99 - 01:05 PM Rick, I could deal with the mandolin until the last surgery I had in '97 when they took another 1/4 inch off the end. Even the lap/mountain dulcimer gives me problems. A "mandolin type instrument with a slightly longer scale than a mandola scale instrument" strung with nylon strings sounds interesting. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Rick Fielding Date: 22 Sep 99 - 01:03 PM Does everyone feel that the constant bullying of Katlaughing is somehow "having fun"? Calling someone an "idiot" when they've tried to help (Starry Starry Night Thread) is inexcusable in my book. A simple check of his postings going back a few months is illuminating. As a kid I was bullied. It hurt tremendously, but I put on a brave face and smiled. Others often just observed quietly. The bullies can't help it, they need the attention. I'll never be bullied again and I won't stand by and enjoy the suffering. My only discourteous response in over a year on mudcat was in that thread, and it was well deserved. Rick Fielding |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jon Freeman Date: 22 Sep 99 - 12:38 PM Bert, I don't know whether the statement made by gargoyle is coherent or not. Perhaps I am being stupid or perhaps this is one of those transatlanitic differences with the use of language but although I think I can work out what he is saying, even after reading it 10 times over it is far from clear to me. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Bill in Alabama Date: 22 Sep 99 - 12:20 PM I agree, Bert. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Bert Date: 22 Sep 99 - 09:54 AM Jeri, I don't agree with you when you say 'His only contributions of late consist of insults and incoherent raving.' His posting above yours was a reasonably stated opinion, though you may not agree with all of it. I particularly like the phrase 'Please.... join, contribute and share....and ignore ALL the cats and other creatures howling in the background. HAVE FUN>>>>>I sure do....' Bert. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: FionaN Date: 22 Sep 99 - 03:49 AM Thanks for the Jug directions...I may be able to pop along on Sunday...I seem to have a hectic weekend ahead of me... |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Steve Parkes Date: 22 Sep 99 - 03:30 AM Oh gosh! It's been three days and I havne't said hi to the new guys ... well 'Hi'! No-one seems to have explained to you about thread creep yet, but if I do, I'll be making it happen, so just sit tight - you'll see plenty of it in time. Happy 'catting! Steve |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Rick Fielding Date: 22 Sep 99 - 02:36 AM Hi Jeri, I got to thinking about your delicate finger situation, and I've got a suggestion. Since you already know violin fingering, a mandolin "type" instrument should be right up your alley. I'm not sure whether you do your own instrument "set ups" or not, but I have found that virtually every student I've had over the last ten years was playing an instrument that needed to be set up properly or replaced. It's a matter of comfort. It can make all the difference between someone having a lot of fun while learning, or it being difficult and painful. The action of the instrument needs to be as low as possible (and while someone's working on basics) it doesn't even matter if there is some fret buzz. I have a number of mandolin type instruments and the one that should be ideal for you (wish you lived in Toronto, so I could show it to you) is a slighty longer than mandola scale instrument. It is strung with nylon strings and low action. It's like running your fingers over glass it plays so easily. The sound is more delicate, but very pretty. Rick |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jeri Date: 22 Sep 99 - 01:26 AM I have a mandolin I can laboriously pick out tunes on. The string tension is a bit much, as I chopped off the end of my left index finger when I was three years old and have a lot of scar tissue from subsequent surgeries. I have the same problem, but not as bad with 5-string banjo. I've played around a little with other people's tenor banjos and bazoukis, but I have a long way to go to learn how to use a pick. Oh, and I wouldn't normally bother acknowledging him, but for all the new folks, gargoyle is our resident sociopath. His only contributions of late consist of insults and incoherent raving. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Sep 99 - 11:52 PM Jeri, of the "distractions" do you ever try mandolin or even tenor banjo ie other GDAE tuned instruments? Jon |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: _gargoyle Date: 21 Sep 99 - 11:50 PM Once the DT was a plain simple place.
Common folk gathered and exchanged INFORMATION
Then Max came along....he made the DT approachable to the common masses. And the masses came...and with them came some " "......Most of these people are like theatre critics, they believe "irony" and "cynicism" and "sarcasim" to be TRUTH and brillance. They are incapable of creation. They contribute nothing more than a buzz of flies to a summer a day.
Please.... join, contribute and share....and ignore ALL the cats and other creatures howling in the background. HAVE FUN>>>>>I sure do.... Without this forum I never would have ventured into a summer of "musical saws" and "hurdy gurdys."
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jeri Date: 21 Sep 99 - 11:22 PM Alright, Jon, your fingers are safe. I wonder what it is that makes some of us accumulate many different instruments while others are happy with one. Although I've stuck to the fiddle despite distractions, I'm constantly fascinated by other instruments. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Sep 99 - 10:57 PM Jeri, I am certainly not a brilliant musician (I'm reasonably competent in local sessions but no more than that) but I've tended to be able to work out the basics of instruments quite quickly especially when I was younger. Sometimes it would take hours rather than minutes to get that far - I wish that I had of known somebody willing to lend me a set of pipes or a brass instrument for a day at that time. I am older now and a lot slower at picking things up than I was but my fingers are still quite precious to me even though they they have minds of there own and can be very stubborn little creatures at times! Jon |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jeri Date: 21 Sep 99 - 10:19 PM Jon, please tell me where you live so I can come over there and cut your fingers off!!! If you give some folks an instrument they've never played before and tell them to play "Wild Rover" on it, they'll have it figured out in minutes. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Sep 99 - 09:39 PM I wonder how many arms and heads that a lot of us would need if we counted singing and every instrument that we are cable of playing a simple melody on (lets say the melody line to the Wild Rover). I would have to remind my self on some instruments which I haven't touched for a long while but my own list would include: Tenor banjo, 5 string banjo, ukelele, guitar (6 string, 12 string and bass), mandolin, mandola, bazouki, cittern, piano, fiddle & viola (very scratchy bow but in tune), whistle, recorder, clarinet, appalacian dulcimer, hammer dulcimer, harmonica, piano accordian, GD melodeon, anglo concertina, harp... Additionally of course everybody can "play" the bodhran (no offense meant to those who genuinely do play this instrument - I love it in skilled hands). Jon |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Davey Date: 21 Sep 99 - 09:09 PM Hi Magpie... I think it would take at least 6 arms and 2 heads... A challenge to be sure..... |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: bill\sables Date: 21 Sep 99 - 09:02 PM If you come from the M62 and cross the river Aire you turn right to the Jug if you turn left you will get lost Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Sep 99 - 06:59 PM Interesting the way people give different directions to get to the same place. I think I would find this one quite easily from both but looking at my map, it looks as if I turned left after the river Ayre, I could even end up in West Haddlesey. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Magpie Date: 21 Sep 99 - 06:12 PM Hello Davey Imagine the pain of knitting jerseys to the pair of us... How many arms ???? Magpie |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Peter T. Date: 21 Sep 99 - 05:44 PM What I think is hilarious is that we now have two sets of directions to the JUG in two different towns -- Chappel Haddlesea and Haddlesy from Bill and Keith -- no wonder English folk music is in a state of confusion. I can just imagine the M62 tomorrow night, A19, junction 34, if this really exists! Folkies wandering all over. "Aarrh, tourn left where the old church used ta be, and go down past Lower Mudcat until you get as far down as you can, which is Upper Mudcat, and there 'tis." (BG). yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Davey Date: 21 Sep 99 - 02:21 PM I'm fairly new, although I lurk from time to time. And I'll keep my postings down to no more than 4 **BG**.. Greetings to you regulars and newbies. I play guitar, mandolin, harmonica and bouzouki, and also sing (not simultaneously with harmonica playing, yet. And yes, it is a great place to be...... |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: selby Date: 21 Sep 99 - 01:53 PM Thank you to all who have welcomed me and other catters. It is starting to look like that yorkshire is the english centre for mudcatters.The JUG is just of the M62 junction 34 at Haddlesy over the river aire turn left. there is a singers and musicians session on tommorow night 22/9/99 Patrish I spent a few lunch times in the Tap & Spile at folk week Keith |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: bill\sables Date: 21 Sep 99 - 01:51 PM Hi Fiona N and Patrish The Jug is in Chappel Haddlesea on the A 19 south of Selby, North of the M62. Wednesdays are music session nights and all are welcome. Fiona N there is a festival this weekend if you want some good music near the Jug. My email number is earlier in this thread if you want a ticket, just £5 for the whole weekend. Cheers Bill |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 99 - 01:10 PM Nobody ever told ME that reading was a requirement here. How about something in the "Quick Links?" Sorry Magpie, you fit in too for the reasons I stated, and Patrish, I apologize for not recognizing it was you who completely stinks. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Bert Date: 21 Sep 99 - 12:54 PM Of course if he could read he would know that Patrish was the one who would 'fit in' |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Sep 99 - 12:47 PM .......sorrowfully we do have a few sickies of which Rick is one. And Magpie, listen up....Bert does have a point about your fitting in here. You DO however, have it all over Bert who has to relearn every instrument he picks up after he remembers which one it is. By this point he's forgotten WHY he picked it up and the whole process starts again.......... Personally I think your nine hands are very attractive though a bit bizarre...well, not here, but out in the real world I'm sure people stare.....like Rick. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Rick Fielding Date: 21 Sep 99 - 12:31 PM I can't tell you how good it makes me feel to say "Hello and welcome" to new Catters. Occasionally when things get a little low-key around here, there are mumblings about "cliques, dilemmas and lack of Mudcat musical purity (my term only). As long as new folks say "hello", and let us know they're here, the welcome mat is always out. That makes for a healthy community folks. Rick |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Bert Date: 21 Sep 99 - 12:18 PM Never mind Magpie, that's the sort of welcome you can expect here. And while we are in welcoming mode... Hi there Patrish, Welcome aboard, if you 'sing badly, play the melodeon badly, write recitations badly' you'll fit in just fine here. Bert. |
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Subject: RE: Help: mudcat how does it work From: Magpie Date: 21 Sep 99 - 12:12 PM Well Bert, I suppose I asked for that one. But I tell you, it's pretty tricky to play the whistle AND sing too. Hands or no hands Magpie |
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