UK Folk Club Network

Subject: UK Folk Club Network
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 19 May 11 - 05:01 AM

Not sure whether anyone else has posted about this yet, (if so, apologies for duplicating, but worth mentioning again)

John Richards and Damien Barber are attempting to establish a UK folk Club Network, Their starting point has been to canvass views via a facebook page. Go take a look please.

The UK Folk Club Network



Quote below from John Richards:


John Richards
If you're interested in UK Folk Music please read this and join us at the UK Folk Club Network Facebook page.
Could we please give it another 24 hours to add as many potentially interested friends as we can (We need as many organisers, potential organisers, artists (pro, semi pro, and amateur), agents, and audience members as possible and then we will post a statement as a starting point from which we will try to take this forward hopefully for all of our benefits and the generic benefit of the UK folk club network.

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 19 May 11 - 05:46 AM

Might be worth getting in touch with Alan Day about this. He's setting up a Folk Performers Association. Could this be the beginning of some joined-up thinking?

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 19 May 11 - 05:49 AM

John

Check this out;

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=137194&messages=63#3156901

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: Bounty Hound
Date: 19 May 11 - 06:45 AM

Thanks Chris, have seen that, and signed up on Alan's Facebook group.

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: Alan Day
Date: 19 May 11 - 07:23 AM

I am very happy to work with you on this project and perhaps link up. We are already trying to promote Regional Folk Groups such as Devon Squeezebox Foundation and Folk Artists as well as random Folk Clubs, Dance groups as well as providing a service for individual artists to advertise New releases,Publications and events. It is a rolling page that when an event has happened the advert is deleted. I am trying to make it more of a personal site rather than a network,but it is still experimental. No complaints yet however.
Bounty hound you are now on my Facebook site and FPA thanks for your support.
Al

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: Alan Day
Date: 19 May 11 - 02:53 PM

This is a very good lively site.
Highly recommended
Al

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: Bob TB
Date: 20 May 11 - 06:43 AM

This is mainly a repeat of the message I posted to Alan's thread. Saves you having to swap threads!

I have long thought that it would be useful to have some organisation for folk clubs to share ideas and discuss common problems. Festival organisers have the AFO but there has been nothing at club level.

The danger is fragmentation and I think it's essential that we don't duplicate effort or end up in competition with one another. I know that the EFDSS have plans for club directories, event listings and so on on their new web site. It may be worth making formal contact with them. They do seem to be getting their act together at last.

I started the folk diary site www.SimplyWhatsOn.com to provide a single point of reference for all folk events - clubs, concerts, sessions, etc. Most existing lists are either regional or limited in coverage - sessions, dance, song. SWO needs a lot more entries to be effective but it's a start and there are lots of ideas for the future. (I am aware that it needs to be more user friendly for artists - watch out for Version 2.0!)

I would be more than happy to work with this project on club listings to avoid having another on-line listing and another place clubs have to enter their data (and save a lot of work!).

I'll have a little display for SimplyWhatsOn down by the river at Chippenham next weekend if anyone wants to come along and bounce ideas around.

Bob Hawkes

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: GUEST,UK Folk Music
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 03:35 AM

Hi all,

I'm Alan Morley from UK Folk Music website
http://www.ukfolkmusic.co.uk

We are a website dedicated to promoting anything and everything connected to the UK Folk Scene. The site was only launched on the web mid June 2011 but to date 10/08/11 we hace received over 1,300 visits by individuals.

UK Folk Music covers a huge range of subjects, singers, musicians, bands, instrument makers, folk clubs, concert venues, festivals, traditional dance, barn dance/ ceilidh, craft suppliers, instrument repairs - phew.....!! :)

The reason we are posting this is, we have received an email from Kelly Alcock of UK Folk Club Network who tells us that she has posted a link to us on their Facebook page - fantastic.

It seems that we have another case of 'joined up thinking' and it's really great to have these connections being made for the good of our music.

We hadn't know of Alan Day's project and Facebook Page, but we'll be intouch with him soon.

If anyone would like to vist UK Folk Music to see what we are all about you're very welcome.

Part of our set up is a Forum with a chat room, a daily 'newspaper, a blog which keeps people up to date with what we are developing, and an on-line shop for Folk Music T-Shirts etc.

Because the UK Folk Music site is still developing and expanding we welcome - suggestions, advice and contributions regarding content and direction. We also accept inquiries for advertising space, and offer areas for artists advertising, venues etc...

Because we receive so many visits, a page on UK Folk Music will be seen many more times than and artists own page under their own domain name. We are tweaking the UK Folk Music/artists pages at the moment so they are easily located by search engines.

Phew....sorry to go on so much - I get carried away :)

thanks all


Alan Morley

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Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: Sooz
Date: 10 Aug 11 - 08:40 AM

There is a Yahoo Group for Folk Club Organisers which is very helpful.

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Dec 17 - 08:04 AM

There is a lot of useful info on Alan Morley's "UK FOLK MUSIC AND MORRIS SIDES" website.
It is scheduled to close December 2017.
Copy what you might need now, or check that it exists on another site?.

https://ukfolkmusic.uk/
Folk Music ? UK Folk Clubs | Folk Music Artists | Morris Sides
"NOTICE:
Due to lack of interest and support from the folk scene ( again ) the website will be deleted at the end of December 2017 when our hosting comes up for renewal.
Since re-launching the UK Folk Music website early in the year our visitors have tailled off to around three per day on average.




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re Sooz 2011
I don't see a yahoo "Folk Club Organiser" page now
https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/search?query=folk%20club%20organisers

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Dec 17 - 10:42 AM

Every few years somebody has a brainwave and tries to set up some sort of national listing or organisation for folk clubs. Ever since EFDSS gave up on the printed Folk Directory they have always suffered from the basic misapprehension that people will actively maintain their details.

They never have done which is why these schemes keep failing and they probably never will. The only thing that works is an actively moderated list which is easiest to do on a county level by somebody with a decent number of local contacts.

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Dec 17 - 10:57 AM

I maintain a restricted geographical area folk listing website : Pyramid Folk Hub

Even when covering such a small area there a probably mistakes as almost no-one notifies me of events or detail changes.

The only think that keeps me updating this on an almost daily basis is the thought that I might be helping folk related activities in the local area. Too many folk club organisers are happy to carry on 'as they have always done' and don't want to be bothered with the internet, apart from the dreaded Farcebook.

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 08 Dec 17 - 12:10 PM

A problem for all editors both print and web based.

The Facebook only ones are a pain of you want to know what is happening beyond the next event. Worse still are the ones where the actual address is on a post several months down the timeline. Which assumes of course that you have found the right account, not one created by a former member and no longer maintained.

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 05:23 AM

the problem of all these is diversity. Everyone has their own take and preference. My interest is dance (not Morris), sessions, festivals and Folk Clubs.

mister.red = cresby.com reflects my interests. And is non-political & non-judgemental, I will include anything I would go to which means no C&W, Line Dancing or Open Mics (per se). I don't go to concerts and organisers rarely get in touch with anything, so I only trawl for things I might go to. My diary maybe!

And there is your potential problem. If you put the effort in, you put it in things you recognise. And people start with good intentions and tell anyone, but when the thing (event, website) starts to pale, they tell no-one, yet the website looks just as pristine. I datestamp everything, for this very reason.

It is effectively a Tower of Babel out there. Don't ya just love Fakebook?

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: G-Force
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 06:38 AM

Well, Mr Red, we think your website is invaluable and refer to it every time we travel to your area. We've met nice people and had great evenings, which we would never have been possible without your efforts. Thank you for all your hard work.

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: Mo the caller
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 08:11 AM

Efdss used to organise itself in Regions (or did they call them Areas?). Many of these still exist and publish online. Mersey & Deeside , Lancashire etc. Google your own county. The more local they are the more likely to be kept up to date.
But check before travelling as Webfeet says.
a list of country dance clubs
Are You Dancing

Subject: RE: UK Folk Club Network
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 10 Jul 18 - 07:31 AM

If you know anyone who has any sort of web page DO ask them to put a YEAR somewhere on the page, especially on a diary page.
It'll help the archaeologist no end.


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I put a few dozen links to local listers
on a google map.
As Mr Red says, every webpage creator has his own interests.
I decided to have
- one County layer for web pages which didn't attempt to go outside the county.
- one regional layer for larger(& cross boundary) defined areas.*
- one UK layer. I found that these tend to be more genre based. Some are excellent; some not so.


If you're interested open it in a browser, not maps(landscape if you're on a mobile device I think)
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1rbjACkYXU4E37kDuzQYwzWvDQcg 

* ! regional layer looks like a game of Pick-up-sticks, I don't know any other way to do it - click and zoom in\out, see what you find.