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UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme

Will Fly 21 May 11 - 11:19 AM
GUEST,johnmc 21 May 11 - 12:14 PM
Alan Day 21 May 11 - 12:39 PM
Nigel Paterson 22 May 11 - 11:17 AM
Will Fly 22 May 11 - 03:26 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 22 May 11 - 04:51 PM
Will Fly 22 May 11 - 05:15 PM
Nigel Paterson 23 May 11 - 07:17 AM
Will Fly 23 May 11 - 07:29 AM
Nigel Paterson 23 May 11 - 11:31 AM
Will Fly 23 May 11 - 11:35 AM
fat B****rd 23 May 11 - 03:06 PM
GUEST,Alan Whittle 23 May 11 - 11:06 PM
GUEST,Jon 23 May 11 - 11:23 PM
GUEST,leeneia 24 May 11 - 01:03 AM
GUEST,leeneia 24 May 11 - 02:12 AM
Will Fly 24 May 11 - 03:45 AM
Alan Day 24 May 11 - 03:46 AM
bubblyrat 24 May 11 - 05:06 AM
GUEST,leeneia 24 May 11 - 12:26 PM
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Subject: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Will Fly
Date: 21 May 11 - 11:19 AM

Alan Day did a very nice recording of his own French-style waltz "Croissants et café" on Concertina.net recently. The first line of the tune brought back memories of the 1960s UK TV series "Maigret", with Rupert Davies as the eponymous French detective.

I found the sheet music on the net (hurray for the web) and couldn't resist disassembling it by transposing it up from Bb to D and stripping out the lead melody line. I played the stripped out piano score as a backing track and then added the lead line back in - on mandolin. You can see it here on YouTube is you're interested:

Maigret Theme (1960)

What struck me about the tune were the lovely internal harmonies under the main melody. Ron Grainer, the composer, was an Aussie who worked mainly in Britain (died not far from me in Sussex) and was incredibly talented. "Steptoe and Son", "The Prisoner", "Tales Of The Unexpected", "Danger Man" and "Doctor Who" - as well as "Maigret" - all flowed from his pen.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: GUEST,johnmc
Date: 21 May 11 - 12:14 PM

Nice work - Pipe smoke and the smell of Gauloises evoked.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Alan Day
Date: 21 May 11 - 12:39 PM

Lovely job Will Where's the beret ?
Here is "Croissants et Cafe` " I see what you mean about the first bit.
Al
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiQkVPbAqfs


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 22 May 11 - 11:17 AM

Well done Will! As an erstwhile mandolinist myself I really appreciated your arrangement, uncluttered, but with all the right harmonies. Perhaps your next project could be the 'Harry Lime' theme? As a life-time supporter of the genuine, live performance, I heartily applaud your 'single take' approach...no edits, straight through from beginning to end...just the way it should be! Bravo!
                              Nigel.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 May 11 - 03:26 PM

Thanks Nigel. The "Third Man" theme, unfortunately, has been done to death! Shame, 'cos it's a great tune. Still, lots of other stuff to go at... :-)


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 22 May 11 - 04:51 PM

The general consensus at the time was that the theme tune was the best bit of the programme, some said the only decent bit.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 May 11 - 05:15 PM

Do you mean the Maigret TV series, Al? Simenon himself thought Rupert Davies was the best of all the Maigret actors. I remember watching it avidly and thinking it rather good.

If, on the other hand, you're referring to the "Third Man" series with Michael Rennie as Harry Lime (killed in the film "The Third Man"), then you're probably right - it was poor, as I recall.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 23 May 11 - 07:17 AM

Will, you're right to highlight the talents of Ron Grainer, a prolific, gifted composer whose legacy includes some of the most memorable TV themes. But let's also spare a thought for Delia Derbyshire at the now defunct, BBC Radiophonic Workshop, who was largely responsible for electronically 'realising' Ron Grainer's 'Dr.Who' theme. An enduring, iconic, groundbreaking piece of work IMHO.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Will Fly
Date: 23 May 11 - 07:29 AM

Delia Derbyshire was a superb arranger and Ron Grainer readily acknowledged his debt to her for the Doctor Who theme. From Wikipedia:

Grainer was so impressed with Delia Derbyshire's electronic realisation of his score (which remained the standard version of the Doctor Who theme for 18 years) that he is reported to have said on hearing it, "Did I really write that?" - to which Derbyshire responded "well, mostly!"[1] He also offered to split his royalty with her, but this was prevented by BBC bureaucracy.

Do you remember David Munrow's great score for the radio adaptation of "The Hobbit"? - all put together in the Radiophonic Workshop? I have it on vinyl - great stuff!


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Nigel Paterson
Date: 23 May 11 - 11:31 AM

No, David Munrow's 'Radiophonic' score for 'The Hobbit' I've not heard. One wonders how he might have got on with Peter Jackson?! I'm more familiar with his work with "The Early Music Consort'. His premature death left a void in early music which has never really been satisfactorily filled.
          Slightly tangental to the thread, but, I think, interesting. The brother of a friend of mine has the (un)enviable task of digitising the BBC Sound Archive, which includes all the surviving output from the Radiophonic Workshop. He must be the only person in the UK who can say with any certainty that he has a job for life!
                                                                            Nigel.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Will Fly
Date: 23 May 11 - 11:35 AM

I used to spend many an evening after work browsing through the goodies in Sound Archives when I worked at the Beeb. Such riches...


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: fat B****rd
Date: 23 May 11 - 03:06 PM

I confused Ron Grainer with Ron Goodwin. He had a tune called The Headless Horseman. I can't recall if it was theme music.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 23 May 11 - 11:06 PM

I suppose it depends on whether you subscibe to the Simenon - the genius myth.....

I guess the stories must lose something in translation. I think we all thought leetle Erench bars where they drink Gauloise and smoke Ricard were terribly romantic - so we forgave Maigret for having the most boring predictable casebook imaginable.

I can remember after every episode, we all said -either - well that was tripe! or, what WAS all that about?

We all liked Ewen Solon's hat - which was incredibly cool looking.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 23 May 11 - 11:23 PM

Never saw that series but I did enjoy a more recent one with Michael Gambon as Maigret


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 May 11 - 01:03 AM

too bad it was next to impossible for me to hear any of this delightful French (and similar) music on my trips to France.

It hacks me off that everywhere I go I have to listen to junky American pop. I don't permit it in my home back in America.

Thanks for posting, Will and Alan.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 May 11 - 02:12 AM

Alan, did you compose the Rosbif Waltz?


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 May 11 - 03:45 AM

The Maigret books were interesting at the time because, unlike the standard Agatha Christie, Dorothy Sayers or American crime stuff, they concentrated more on the psychological side.

If you remember Britain in the 1960s, a leetle beet of Gallic atmosphere was more than welcome on TV. I remember my first venture abroad - 1965 - when me and my art student buddy Nick got a lift in a Singer Chamois from Le Havre to St. Maxime with a TV writer called 'Elizabeth Ayres'. She was off to stay for a fortnight in a villa owned by an ATV producer called Lewis Grifa and his family. I'll never forget getting out of the little car in the warm Provence night and sitting down to my first glass of wine and a French meal in a small inn. The smell of the warm pines, food, wine, flower scents, garlic and French tobacco smoke. Magic!

Anyway, and regardless of all that, I still love the Maigret music. :-)


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: Alan Day
Date: 24 May 11 - 03:46 AM

Sadly no Leeneia, Rosbif Waltz was collected by Mel Stevens (As almost no French music was in print at that time) and was played by a band called "Paris Centre" one of the members being Philippe Krumm who is a famous in France as a Accordion Historian.It had no name.
Philippe is currently writing book near to publication.
Rosbif Waltz originally appeared on the "Rosbif" LP called "Traditional Dance Music From Central France" and featured Mel on Melodion and myself on concertina. Graham Bradshaw Roots Records is considering the re release of the two Rosbif Albums on CD. The track also appears on the 3CD collection Anglo International.
Al


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: bubblyrat
Date: 24 May 11 - 05:06 AM

Nicely played, cousin ! Always liked the "Maigret" theme, and found it to be very evocatively "French" . I thought the series was very good too, although a bit less believable when one episode, involving people walking along a narrow footway over a weir , was obviously filmed at Hambledon Lock, about a mile from where I was sitting watching the programme !
          Never met Ron Grainer , but Ron Goodwin I did, lovely man ; I persuaded him to come down to Bournemouth to conduct Bournemouth Concert Brass playing his compositions at a D-Day 50th Anniversary function that I helped to organise there.


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Subject: RE: UK '60s nostalgia - 'Maigret' theme
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 24 May 11 - 12:26 PM

Thank you for the information, Alan.

I'm going to print that right onto my copy of the waltz.


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