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Where is the digital tradition

GUEST,L. King 23 May 11 - 03:48 PM
maeve 23 May 11 - 04:04 PM
maeve 23 May 11 - 04:12 PM
Little Robyn 23 May 11 - 04:54 PM
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GUEST,Joe Offer at the Women's Center 23 May 11 - 09:07 PM
GUEST,Matt 30 May 11 - 11:15 AM
GUEST,Matt 30 May 11 - 11:48 AM
Bill D 30 May 11 - 12:28 PM
dick greenhaus 30 May 11 - 01:51 PM
Susan of DT 30 May 11 - 01:59 PM
GUEST,Matt 30 May 11 - 03:46 PM
dick greenhaus 31 May 11 - 10:39 AM
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Subject: Where is the digital tradition
From: GUEST,L. King
Date: 23 May 11 - 03:48 PM

Where has the digital tradition gone with list of songs and music?


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: maeve
Date: 23 May 11 - 04:04 PM

Guest, L. King- Look at the box at the top right of this page. There is a search box called, "Lyrics and Knowledge Search" with which you can select DT and/or Forum as well as a search for "DT Lyrics", organized in alphabetical order.

Alternatively, look at the "Quick Links" menu at the top to find several Digital Tradition options.

Let us know if you have any further trouble.

Maeve


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: maeve
Date: 23 May 11 - 04:12 PM

Of course, on the forum home page the DT box is on the top right! :)

Here's a link to the Digitrad Keyword Search, from the "Quick Links" menu.

http://www.mudcat.org/DTKeywords.cfm


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: Little Robyn
Date: 23 May 11 - 04:54 PM

Maeve, it's on the left on my computer - is that because I live 'down-under'?
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: maeve
Date: 23 May 11 - 05:00 PM

No, Robyn. That's just the effect of magic fallout from Hogwarts School.

Either that, or different browsers have different faces...naw, couldn't be.


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: maeve
Date: 23 May 11 - 05:07 PM

That's also the reason I said, "Of course, on the forum home page the DT box is on the top right! :)" when I meant to say it's on the left.

Oh, well. Time to take another vacation from posting.


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: Gurney
Date: 23 May 11 - 05:11 PM

GuestL, don't only look in the DT for songs. Some have been discussed in the forum and are not (yet?) in there, but the words are in the threads. The problem is that the thread header is not necessarily the song title.....


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: GUEST,Joe Offer at the Women's Center
Date: 23 May 11 - 09:07 PM

It could be that L. King is looking for the (apparently defunct) "Yet Another Digital Tradition" Website, a Digital Tradition mirror which often shows up on searches instead of Mudcat. Mudcat is the official home of the Digital Tradition, but there are mirrors that do a service by providing notation and tablature for our Digital Tradition melodies.

8notes.com is one that displays notation for our melodies. 8notes gets the lyrics and MIDI files from Mudcat, and then displays the songs as musical notation. Recently, Mudcat owner Max Spiegel started displaying the musical notation from 8notes.com

Click here for an example of a Digital Tradition song with notation - from Mudcat.

Click here for the same song at 8notes.com.


-Joe-


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Subject: DigiTrad download?
From: GUEST,Matt
Date: 30 May 11 - 11:15 AM

Apologies if my knowledge of Mudcat-lore is lacking (I did search for an answer), but I'm wondering why the latest edition of DT available for download is from 2002?

I'm assuming the database has expanded since then - are the additions not available for download or am I simply missing something?

Thanks in advance,
Matthew


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: GUEST,Matt
Date: 30 May 11 - 11:48 AM

Thanks to whoever moved my post here. I'm ashamed to have not found such a recent thread... but I guess my question remains, how do 8notes and the other mirrors get the songs in the first place? :)


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: Bill D
Date: 30 May 11 - 12:28 PM

The other sites simply copy them from the Mudcat DT. As Dick Greenhaus is fond of saying, "The DT is copy-lefted" It is free,open and available. The whole point was to make the songs available, and we 'think' that all songs with known authors have permission to be there. A few have been removed by request over the years.


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 30 May 11 - 01:51 PM

Mark-
It's a work in progress...slow, because a)I'm busy with other things, an b)I'm lousy programmer. To see a sample of what's been happening, check out http://www.ceimd.net/dt/index.php
There's about 10,00 songs, and th tune can be displayed in ABC format(there's lots of good ABC player programs available.)


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: Susan of DT
Date: 30 May 11 - 01:59 PM

I'm working on it, slowly. My copy is up to 10,800 songs. We are aiming for 11,000 for the next edition. I just cleared out a bunch of duplicates. I just have to finish putting it together. Of course I let Dick worry about tune formats...


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: GUEST,Matt
Date: 30 May 11 - 03:46 PM

Wow, nice work! Thanks for the info Dick/Susan.

For the record I'm not such a lousy programmer, but I am also a busy one at the moment. Nevertheless I'm keen on the DT project and if there's anything small I could help out with (even just to bounce ideas and questions off) I'd be more than happy to lend a hand.


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 31 May 11 - 10:39 AM

Guest Matt-
Your guest status makes et difficult to discuss things with you. If you join (it's free) I can sen you a Personal Message (PM)


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: MattJ
Date: 01 Jun 11 - 07:48 AM

Heh, sorry - I'm registered but couldn't remember my password yesterday :)


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 01 Jun 11 - 09:08 PM

And YES - first time material to Mudcat -It can find its way into the Digital Tradition. It may take a while (years) but somehow it gets there. Living proof that someone does winnow the chaff.

Thanks Dick & Susan,

Sincerely,
Gargoyle Happy to have stumbled across Xerox and the hosting of alt.music.folk - not much has changed - except the gypsies have invaded the palace.


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 02 Jun 11 - 06:00 PM

Hi garg-

thanx for the thanx.


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Subject: RE: Where is the digital tradition
From: foggers
Date: 02 Jun 11 - 06:43 PM

And thanks for doing all this so that important living music is collected and available to anyone who wants it. Great work by good people!


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