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Review: Recordings that make you flinch

GUEST,mg 02 Jun 11 - 01:42 PM
GUEST,mg 02 Jun 11 - 01:51 PM
GUEST,anonymous 02 Jun 11 - 02:24 PM
GUEST,Dave in Michigan 02 Jun 11 - 03:23 PM
GUEST,Gorgeous Dennis From Putney 02 Jun 11 - 07:23 PM
GUEST,leeneia 03 Jun 11 - 12:01 PM
YorkshireYankee 03 Jun 11 - 12:53 PM
GUEST,leeneia 03 Jun 11 - 01:03 PM
GUEST,Songbob 03 Jun 11 - 01:36 PM
GUEST,leeneia 03 Jun 11 - 01:52 PM
Tattie Bogle 03 Jun 11 - 02:35 PM
michaelr 03 Jun 11 - 05:12 PM
GUEST,Geordie-Peorgie (sans thingy) 03 Jun 11 - 07:06 PM
CupOfTea 04 Jun 11 - 12:49 PM
John MacKenzie 04 Jun 11 - 12:57 PM
Desert Dancer 04 Jun 11 - 01:00 PM
Phil Cooper 04 Jun 11 - 01:39 PM
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Subject: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 02 Jun 11 - 01:42 PM

There is one on this Irish Pub Radio that I can not race to the computer fast enough to turn off the speakers...Ennis Sisters with Chieftains singing Red is the Rose...I like both groups in general but somehow that rendition is nerve-wracking for me. Likewise I think any version of Caledonia I have yet to hear. mg


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 02 Jun 11 - 01:51 PM

Oh dear now a Celtic Woman (trying to sound like a pre-teen) is singing Lagan Love. In general I do like this radio station. Maybe they are having a bad moment but I am about to change the channel.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,anonymous
Date: 02 Jun 11 - 02:24 PM

I'm afraid to reveal my true Mudcat name.

I was at a workshop once where our teacher, a Welsh musician, commented that he had seen the Chieftains on television "and not one instrument on the stage was in tune with any other."

Their out-of-tuneness gets on the nerves after a while.

I sympathize with your observation of "trying to sound like a pre-teen." That style got old about 1985.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,Dave in Michigan
Date: 02 Jun 11 - 03:23 PM

Any recording in which a song traditionally sung "sean nos" (i.e. solo, a capella and almost unmeasured) is "updated" to become up-tempo, accompanied by percussive rhythmic guitar strumming, a chorus, and with vocal syncopation of the "instant catchiness" variety (insert single-beat rest at start of phrase, squeeze words to fit). Urggh.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,Gorgeous Dennis From Putney
Date: 02 Jun 11 - 07:23 PM

ANything by Roy Bailey


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 12:01 PM

My cat has a distinictive meow which means "Cut that out!" For example, if I'm brushing her and pull too hard on some matted fur, she meows her unmistakeable "Mra!".

She's heard me sing and make music a lot. She usually says nothing. But the other day, I imitated Marie Osmund for the first and last time. After a few bars, the cat walked in and went "Mra!"

Things are bad when even the cat criticizes.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 12:53 PM

Can't think of any recordings, but I remember going to a Judy Collins concert in the late 70s. Gorgeous voice, of course, but (much to my surprise) frequently off-pitch enough to cause me to wince. Don't know if she was having an off day or what, but I found it hard to believe how bad her pitch was -- and repeatedly.

An aside:
Dave in Michigan, Hi again! Your "clues" in the other thread helped some, but not enough (clearly your memory is better than mine). There are at least a couple of Daves I think you might be, but I am far from sure. (The number of Daves I know is almost amazing. I remember once receiving a holiday card signed simply "Dave". To this day, I don't know who sent it...)

How about e-mailing me at: vikkivikki@@srama..srama..demon..demon..co..co..uk..uk
(@ddress doubled to avoid spambots; I'm sure you can figure out what it should be)

Apologies for hijacking the thread, but I can't PM Dave, as he's not a member.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 01:03 PM

Hi, Yorkshire Yankee. I sympathize about the off-pitch Judy Collins.

I went to the Judy Collins concert once that was so horribly loud I had to leave. People were shouting from audience to turn it down. Did no good.

Every band should have somebody in the audience to report on what conditions are like OUT THERE.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,Songbob
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 01:36 PM

"Every band should have somebody in the audience to report on what conditions are like OUT THERE."

My wife told us after the first number that the bass was too loud, so we had him turn down some, and the concert went off fine. The next week the bassist left the band.

Connection? Might just be...

Bob


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 01:52 PM

My brother wasted a lot of energy on bands. The usual reason they fell apart was that somebody's girlfriend left him.

Your wife probably had nothing to do with it.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 02:35 PM

"Classy Lassie" by North Sea Gas: it's so Bl~~dy sexist.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: michaelr
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 05:12 PM

Recordings of my voice from 30 years ago make me flinch.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,Geordie-Peorgie (sans thingy)
Date: 03 Jun 11 - 07:06 PM

Reminds me of a Geoff HIgginbottom gig in Ramsgate. He asked the audience, "Can you hear me at the back?" Someone shouted back, "They can hear you in Hastings!"


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: CupOfTea
Date: 04 Jun 11 - 12:49 PM

Ya want something REALLY Flinchworthy? Try anything by William Shatner: "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" is about iconic for "truly horrid recordings"

A more folky sounding album that I found astonishingly awful, and later lampooned by David Letterman is "Lavender Jane Loves Women." I'm, as they say, "straight but not narrow" but lyrics like "let no penis come between us" were just howlers, even to lesbian friends.

I find it interesting that the OP would dismiss ANY recording of "Caledonia" unheard. I happen to like the song m'self, but wouldn't dream of telling her she should be ashamed of herself for such an attitude, the way she did when I found "Danny Boy" avoidable in most instances. Ya like what ya like. I find the "Celtic Woman" avoidable in all instances, though they're impressive for the ability to sing/play fiddle/etc while tight laced in a corset top - eyecandy for PBS membership drive. Not my cuppa.

I wonder what it is with Judy Collins' voice? I've heard her a number of times, mostly in the 70s, when she was on pitch, with a soaring, inspirational voice. At concert in the mid 90s she was sort of all over the place, and I found it disconcerting to hear this voice that had largely launched my love of a number of songs, and singing of them, sound so off. I would likely avoid recent recordings by her for this reason to avoid having to flinch.

Joanne in Cleveland


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Jun 11 - 12:57 PM

Bob Dylan and Joan Baez, duetting on 'With God on Your Side, from a 1960's Newport Folk Festival.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 04 Jun 11 - 01:00 PM

ditto for me on Judy Collins in the past 20 years. It's a peculiar thing.

~ Becky in Long Beach


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 04 Jun 11 - 01:39 PM

I had heard that Judy Collins had vocal chord nodes for awhile. So that may explain the pitchiness in the late '70's.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: banjoman
Date: 05 Jun 11 - 07:07 AM

Anything by June Tabor ----"YUK"


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 05 Jun 11 - 08:27 AM

Anything I record after about 2 weeks I tend to hate. Stupid recording.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,Lindy
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 12:26 AM

I am a big, big fan of the late John Denver and also like Bruce Springsteen a lot.

But...there are two songs that I cannot stand to hear of theirs.

John Denver - "Thank God I'm A Country Boy" and

Bruce Springsteen - "Born in the U.S.A." (this one the worst of the two).

Those two songs make me flinch.


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Subject: ADDPOP: Born in the USA (Springsteen)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 01:25 AM

I think many people view Springsteen's "Born in the USA" as jingoistic. I think of it as an anthem of those who had to go into military service during the Vietnam war, whether they wanted to or not.
-Joe-

BORN IN THE USA
(Bruce Springsteen)

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
Till you spend half your life just covering up
Born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

Got in a little hometown jam
So they put a rifle in my hand
Sent me off to a foreign land
to go and kill the yellow man
Born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man says "son if it was up to me"
Went down to see my V.A. man
He said "son don't you understand now"
Had a brother at Khe Sahn fighting off the Viet Cong
They're still there he's all gone

He had a woman he loved in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms now
Down in the shadow of penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years burning down the road
Nowhere to run ain't got nowhere to go

Born in the U.S.A.
I was born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
I'm a long gone daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
I'm a cool rocking daddy in the U.S.A.


[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/bruce-springsteen-lyrics/born-in-the-usa-lyrics.html ]


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: Leadfingers
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 06:19 AM

That 'Witches' song with all the Godesses names in the chorus - more of an Anti Male Feminist rant - Especially the numbers supposed to be killed by the Inquisition . What WAS the total population of Europe in the Sixteenth Century ?
   But MGAS (Hilary) has an excellent song about the wise women who were slaughtered


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: oldhippie
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 03:16 PM

Everything by Lee Greenwood or Kelly Clarkson


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 04:02 PM

Dick Miles singing the last goodbye.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: Midchuck
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 04:11 PM

"Bob Dylan and Joan Baez, duetting on 'With God on Your Side,' from a 1960's Newport Folk Festival."

YES! I have that recording. Sometimes I play it just to annoy my wife. Cruel of me...

Peter


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 06:19 PM

I'm trying to work out whether s0mke of those admitting they loathe recordings that I (in common I suspect with a pretty high proportion of Mudcatters) think are pretty good, are boasting or confessing.

Takes all sorts...


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: Leadfingers
Date: 06 Jun 11 - 06:38 PM

True Kevin - If we all liked the same stuff it would be a bit boring , wouldnt it ?? Nowt to argue about !! LOL


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: GUEST,Neovo
Date: 07 Jun 11 - 08:22 AM

Oh yes, the Heckety, Diana, Isis etc etc song. Never heard a recording of it thank goodness but I've heard it plenty in singarounds sung by Women (note the capital "w")mostly but also I heard a man once do it. Awful, Awful.


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Subject: RE: Review: Recordings that make you flinch
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Jun 11 - 08:25 AM

Roy Bailey recorded it, feckin awful song.

Dave H


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