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Tech: Thumb Drives

wysiwyg 09 Jun 11 - 01:11 PM
SteveMansfield 09 Jun 11 - 01:23 PM
JohnInKansas 09 Jun 11 - 01:34 PM
Tootler 09 Jun 11 - 02:57 PM
wysiwyg 09 Jun 11 - 04:09 PM
bigchuck 09 Jun 11 - 04:35 PM
Joe_F 09 Jun 11 - 06:20 PM
Bill D 09 Jun 11 - 06:57 PM
Leadfingers 09 Jun 11 - 07:37 PM
GUEST 09 Jun 11 - 08:34 PM
Andrez 09 Jun 11 - 09:09 PM
Gurney 10 Jun 11 - 02:02 AM
JohnInKansas 10 Jun 11 - 03:24 AM
GUEST,Jon 10 Jun 11 - 04:59 AM
GUEST,BobL (retired computer engineer) 10 Jun 11 - 05:01 AM
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Subject: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 01:11 PM

Apparently you CAN wash a SanDisk in hot water!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 01:23 PM

One of my USB sticks went through a 40 degree wash in my shirt pocket without any ill effects whatsoever, and is still going over a year later. Probably not recommended as a data retention strategy, but obviously not always fatal ...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 01:34 PM

A novel interpretation of "Disk Cleanup" I suppose.

A recent video article reports that a video of cops shooting someone (Florida IIRC) was "saved" because the guy popped the memory card out of his phonecam and hid it in his mouth while the cops demolished the phone. No reason to expect RAM memory to be particularly sensitive to water, but stomach acid might have been a problem if he'd hiccuped.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: Tootler
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 02:57 PM

One of my USB sticks has been through the washer more than once. I keep it in my waistcoat pocket and forget about it when I change the waistcoat.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 04:09 PM

Seems to be fine. Good thing it is hot pink.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: bigchuck
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 04:35 PM

About 2 years ago I dropped a 2GB stick that we use for backup at work in my driveway. It sat there all winter, was evidently driven over at least once. I found it in April, sprayed it good with contact cleaner, stuck in the computer and it worked fine. The data was still on it, and we're still using it. (a basic stick from Staples) I'm still impressed.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: Joe_F
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 06:20 PM

I happen not to have mistreated any of my thumb drives (tho I dare say the day is coming as the years wear on), but I am delighted to hear of their robustness. I had been doing my backups on DVD-RWs, which got flakier & flakier (I tried every brand, got a new drive, got advice from my friends -- nothing worked). Then I was in a library with a friend & saw him plug a thumb drive into a computer & download something, and I said, Hmph, what the hell is that? Later on, I asked my best buddy, Moby Jim, Knower of Things, whether such a thing would be appropriate for backups, and he said yes. I went straight to Micro Center, bought 4 of them, scouted out a cable with the right ends, and never looked back. Now I always keep yesterday's in my pants pocket. If the house burns down, I've still got my business & personal records and Emacs customizations since 1986.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 06:57 PM

Story is...they CAN wear out with many repetitive uses and plugging in & out, but since there are no moving parts, they are safer than some things.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: Leadfingers
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 07:37 PM

Joe - Usually a lot cheaper to buy On Line - can be a third of the store price , especially if Misco has a sale on


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 08:34 PM

The poster is gargoyle...
In Third World countries - before crossing a border (you may cross multiple borders)

REMOVE the memory chip - and replace with an innocuous chip of tourist crap. Place the chip inside a guide book...or toilet item.

It is a common enough experience (it has happened to me - after visiting a"shanty-town" aka "bidonville" in Paris.

Within the camera setting (Nikon or Cannon SLR) it is a quick "twinkle of the eye" for a custom's inspector to "erase all."

Therefore, backup, and Backup agin, and ONCE MORE BACKUP . Off load your important files through outside sources. There are multiple Internet Cafe portals within 100 meters of most bus stations...setup your cache file locations before leaving your country. Use them once - only to upload and then download your data...log out....do it again to another site.

Do not use friends. There is no reason their career should be compromised because of the indiscretions of your curious eye.

france-humane-deportation-or-xenophobic-slum-clearing


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: Andrez
Date: 09 Jun 11 - 09:09 PM

Hmmmmmmm, thumb drives aside, it's sad to say that iPhones aren't as 'robust' as some thumb drive appear to be, and are not able to survive the experience of the regular, warm water cycle in a washing machine. Trust me I know :-(

On a more practical note, the message above of having more than one backup needs to be heard and taken on board by all computer users. By all means use a thumb drive or USB key as they are also called for immediate backups but don't see them as being safe for long term 'mission critical' data backups.

Cheers,

Andrez


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: Gurney
Date: 10 Jun 11 - 02:02 AM

My Ipod Shuffle survived a drop into a hot cup of coffee. I did a strip-and-rinse in alcohol (the shuffle, not me) and a blow-dry.

Our remotes are wrapped in plastic film. They do NOT like wine. The above treatment would be worth a try, though.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 10 Jun 11 - 03:24 AM

Relative to a previous thread:

Does the ruggedness of thumb drives suggest the real difficulty of reliably destroying all of the data on that old memory (regardless of type) you're ready to toss in the trash?

It really ain't all that easy to be truly sure you've "made it gone."

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 10 Jun 11 - 04:59 AM

They are also quite easy to loose, John.

I've got true crypt on a couple of mine. Free and works on Win, Linux and Mac.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Thumb Drives
From: GUEST,BobL (retired computer engineer)
Date: 10 Jun 11 - 05:01 AM

Essentially there are two ways to destroy deleted data:
1) Obliterate it by writing something else over the top of it. With magnetic media (discs), this should be other data or random numbers, rather than all zeros or ones.
2) Physically destroy the media - burning is quite effective.


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