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Origins: Here We Go Sodeo / Zudeo / Zudio / Zodiac

Monique 18 Jun 11 - 09:27 AM
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Subject: Here We Go Sodeo
From: Monique
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 09:27 AM

I must translate "Sodeo" into French and Spanish. Would any of you guys know what this "Sodeo" means? Is it some name or is it some rhyming word like in "Relax Max" or "Later alligator"?


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Subject: RE: Here We Go Sodeo
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 12:30 PM

It's also given as "zudeo" (Bessie Jones's preference) and "zodiac", so if it ever had any meaning, it's lost in time. Translation unnecessary.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Here We Go Sodeo
From: Monique
Date: 18 Jun 11 - 04:33 PM

Thank you Becky!


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Subject: ADD: Here We Go Zudio
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jan 17 - 01:57 AM

The melody seems to be "Shortnin' Bread." Here's the Raffi recording:

Here's Rani Arbo doing a terrific rendition of "Zudio"
I stole a nice transcription of the lyrics from http://www.songsforteaching.com/allard/herewegozudio.htm


And here's a rather loose interpretation of how the Play-Party can be played:


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Subject: RE: Here We Go Sodeo
From: Thompson
Date: 13 Jan 17 - 05:29 AM

A comment below this version refers to it as " an adaptation of the original (Zudio/Zootie-O/etc), which is a traditional African-American song" - another possible trail for you to follow!


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Subject: ADD: Here We Go Sodeo / Zudeo / Zudio / Zodiac
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jan 17 - 03:56 PM

We have quite a discussion of the song in the thread titled Children's Singing Games. Here are a couple of excerpts:

Thread #31226   Message #1850640
Posted By: Azizi
04-Oct-06 - 08:41 PM
Thread Name: Children's singing games
Subject: RE: Children's singing games

I'm quite late with a response, but with regards to the Here Comes Zodiac song, the version that I was taught was "Here We Go Zoodio". I have "Zoodio" written "Zudio". I believe it's included that way in Bessie Jones & Bess Lomax Hawes' book "Step It Down: Games, Plays, Songs & Stories from the Afro-American Heritage" {University of Georgia Press, 1972}. Unfortunately, I can't find that book at the moment so I can't verify that spelling or the word or the words to that version of that song.

Mrs. Janie Mae Owens, a woman from Georgia, taught that song to children in our church's vacation Bible school when I was a child. Mrs Owens said she sung this song when she was a child. I've remembered it and introduced it to children in my community. The words to the version I was taught are are basically the same as GUEST Date: 28 Feb 06 - 11:39 PM posted, However, it ends before the "I look out yonder" lines. {though I've seen those lines elsewhere in collections of African American children's rhymes}.

The way I learned "Zoodio" was like so:
1. children chose one partner
2. the two partners stand facing each other
3. the two partners crossed their hands and held their partner's hand
4. while singing the first lines "here we go zoodio zoodio zoodio here we go zoodio all night long", the partners swing their crossed hands back and forth to the beat, and while standing still, also move their slightly bent knees up & down to the same beat
5. on the words, "Step back sally", the partners jump back and forth away from, and then toward their partner
6. on the words, "walking through the alley", the partners strut to another partner
7. the song begins again and continues in this pattern

This movement song is good exercise and fun to do for children, teens, and adults!

Thread #31226   Message #2329062
Posted By: Azizi
29-Apr-08 - 05:32 PM
Thread Name: Children's singing games
Subject: RE: Children's singing games

With regard to the "Here We Go Zoodio" song:

While I was looking for some other information, I came across two webpages that have vesions of the game song {dance?} that I phonetically spelled "Zoodio". I'll type the first one in this post and then post the second one with the comment that I wrote in response to it.


HERE WE GO ZUDIO
from Pizza Pizzazz, #PEA5CD

Here we go Zudio Zudio, Zudio
Here we go Zudio all night long.
Here we go Zudio Zudio, Zudio
Here we go Zudio all night long.

Step back Sally Sally, Sally
Step back Sally all night long.

Walkin' thru the alley, what do I see?
I see a great big man from Tennessee.
I betcha five dollars that you can't do this:
To the front, to the back
To the side side side.
To the front, to the back
To the side side side.

My mama called the doctor and the doctor said
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my side"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my toe"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my tummy"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my head."

Here we go Zudio Zudio, Zudio
Here we go Zudio all night long.
Here we go Zudio Zudio, Zudio
Here we go Zudio all night long.

Step back Sally Sally, Sally
Step back Sally all night long.

Walkin' thru the alley, what do I see?
I see a great big man from Tennessee.
I betcha five dollars that you can't do this:
To the front, to the back
To the side side side.
To the front, to the back
To the side side side.

My mama called the doctor and the doctor said
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my chin"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my knee"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my neck"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my belly button."

Here we go Zudio Zudio, Zudio
Here we go Zudio all night long.
Here we go Zudio Zudio, Zudio
Here we go Zudio all night long.
All night long, all night long.

http://www.peterandellen.com/lyrics/zudio.htm

Here's another example that I just found of that song:


"I'm not sure of the proper spelling, but the part I remember goes like this:

Two people stand facing each other, holding hands (one person has arms crossed so that an "X" is formed) and the song begins ( you also pull left, right, etc making a crisscrossing motion with joined hands):

Here we go zoolio, zoolio, zoolio
Here we go zoolio all night long.

(release hands and start going backwards)

Take a step back Sally, Sally, Sally
Walk into the alley, alley, alley.

I went to the country, and what'd I see?
I saw a great big man tryin' to "hypotize" me.

I go way back (put hands on waist & lean back)
Got a hump in my back (lean forward w/hands in small of back)
Do the crab walk, do the crab walk (players "strut" towards each other, still in humped position, and trade places)

The last part is what has me stumped...does anybody remember this at all? I grew up in South Jersey, if that's any help."

[email deleted]

-By V Pesante on Thursday, April 12, 2001 ; Streetplay.com Discussion: Girl Games: Other Games: Zoolio http://www.streetplay.com/discus/

-snip-

It's been seven years, but I'm writing in response to V Pesante {I haven't tried her email} and I'm not sure if she'll see this. But for those who are interested in this rhyme, I also grew up in South Jersey {Atlantic City, NJ}. I remember learning this song in the 1950s from a vacation Bible school teacher who was from Georgia. I've phonetically spelled that word "Zoodio", but I've seen it written "Zudio", or "Zodiac". We played this game {or danced this dance} the same way as V Pesante described in the first part of her comment-two partners stood facing each other, we criss-crossed arms holding both of our partners hands and did what I call a see-saw, back & forth motion to the beat. Our knees were slightly bent when we did this motion. On the words "step back sally" we jumped back to the beat. On the words "walkin through the alley" we continued singing but strutted across the large room and at the end of the song we were arbitrarily standing in front of a new partner. And then song would start again from the beginning.

The words that I recall were the very much like those posted above, but we sang "Step back, Sally Sally Sally" and "Walkin' down the alley alley". I don't think we sang the next part, though that "Big man tryin' to hypnotize me" is awfully familiar to me for some reason or the other. When I read that line, what popped into my head was the line "A big Black man tryin to hynotize me". Btw, I'm African American, if that matters :o}

I found another version of this song on at http://www.peterandellen.com/lyrics/zudio.htm .

That version starts with the Here we go Zudio verse but then gives this verse:

Walkin' thru the alley, what do I see?
I see a great big man from Tennessee.
I betcha five dollars that you can't do this:
To the front, to the back
To the side side side.
To the front, to the back
To the side side side.

My mama called the doctor and the doctor said
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my side"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my toe"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my tummy"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my head."

-snip-

[the verse here we go zudio verse is repeated, and then there's a slightly different version of the "I got a pain" verse:

My mama called the doctor and the doctor said
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my chin"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my knee"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my neck"
"Ooh aah, I got a pain in my belly button."
-snip-

That also sounds familiar too me. It may be because I've mis-remembered what I knew of the song, or those other parts sound like other rhymes that I used to sing or have read.
- Streetplay.com Discussion: Girl Games: Other Games: Zoolio http://www.streetplay.com/discus/
-By Azizi on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 05:29 pm:


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Subject: RE: Origins: Here We Go Sodeo / Zudeo / Zudio / Zodiac
From: Thompson
Date: 13 Jan 17 - 04:07 PM

Wow!

Should that be hynotize me or hypnotise?


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