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Kipling with the Tradition

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A PRESENT FROM THE GENTLEMEN
ENGLAND HAS TAKEN ME
ENGLAND SWINGS
FRANKIE'S TRADE
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OAK, ASH, AND THORN
THE BASTARD KING OF ENGLAND
THE FRENCH WARS
THE LADIES
THE SONG OF THE BANJO
THE YOUNG BRITISH SOLDIER
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Mick Pearce (MCP) 12 Sep 11 - 07:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Kipling with the Tradition
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 12 Sep 11 - 07:15 PM

Further to that, Partridge Dict of Historical Slang says it was perhaps influenced by whim-wham (=female pudend, same source). OED says possible related to fanciful reduplication with altered vowels like flim-flam and whim-wham, but says the source is unsure.

Partridge also says that it was usually reduced to the jams, not the jims! Perhaps both were used or Kipling was taking a liberty for the sake of rhyme with crimson.

It seems to me unlikely that it referred to jimson weed (which I always think of as a US term - see Jamestown-weed as OED says - Jamestown, VA), but I could easily be wrong - the name had been around for a long time by then.


(Previously is meant a knick-knack).

Mick


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