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advice sought; solid wood yamaha guitar

Big Al Whittle 21 Jul 11 - 04:23 AM
Musket 21 Jul 11 - 07:26 AM
Big Al Whittle 21 Jul 11 - 07:36 AM
Musket 21 Jul 11 - 09:00 AM
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Subject: advice sought; solid wood yamaha guitar
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 04:23 AM

I've always loved Yamaha guitars. One of the things I've always loved is the quality control. You get them out of the box and they play nicely and stay in tune.

however up to a couple of years ago - a solid wood yamaha electro acoustic cost in the region of two thousand quid. Way out of my league! Then about two years ago Yamaha came up with this LLX16 model

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Yamaha-LLX16-Black-A-E-Acoustic-Guitar-w-Case-/150601120549?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DDL

as you can see much cheaper (five hudred quid in America about seven hundred in England) and solid wood and with the new ART transducer system.

So i bought one. The ART system seems quieter than the transducer stem on my other Yamaha guitar and the tuning seems to take little more settling down than on the laminate guitar - is this common?

Has anyone else been tempted or bought one of these new yamahas?


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Subject: RE: advice sought; solid wood yamaha guitar
From: Musket
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 07:26 AM

Not exactly answering your question, but I have a small number of Yamaha cheaper guitars on the basis of what you are saying. A laminated ply top for club work was a bit better for throwing around. (Had an old Yamaha thirty years ago, can't remember the model but less than £100.00 out of CV Berry in Worksop at the time that had a pint poured in it and a hole in the top where a mic stand end pushed through it. Still sounded good enough for club work.)

This is an interesting guitar. The best quality Yamaha I own these days is a APX, and the LLX seems on paper to have the advantages c/w a bigger body, better wood and up to date technology.

The ART is of less interest, as if I am plugged up, I tend to use my trusty Rainsong with the LR Baggs gear. The ART will be state of the art as it were, but as ever, it depends on what you plug it into as far as the end result is concerned...

In general, with CNC profiling, accurate measuring and quality control of timber seasoning, computer modelling of vibration and stiffening, decent glues etc., the cheaper makes are for me better than the mid range makes of twenty years ago. Once you get the action etc set up correctly, (add £25.00 or so for a good job) I am convinced guitars are down to taste as much as quality now. The guitar in question has to be good...


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Subject: RE: advice sought; solid wood yamaha guitar
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 07:36 AM

Thanks Ian for your input - much appreciated. Do you use a combo, or plug into the desk as many seem to. I am wondering if I might start using my old YamahaAG stomp to whack up the level.

I've been using a modelling guitar and miking up a combo for the last five years or so - but it does lack something acoustically that a real guitar has, to my ears. Others don't seem to think so though.

I'd love to start playing a proper guitar again.


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Subject: RE: advice sought; solid wood yamaha guitar
From: Musket
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 09:00 AM

I go in direct (via a foot switch to effectively turn it off whilst I am waffling between songs) to my mixer desk usually, (24 channel Mack.)

If it is just me, then that's it. (The mixer is a bit OTT for one man bands, but as easy to lug `round and set up as a smaller one.) if I am with a band using my equipment, I have been known to pre mix via a small Alessi mixer that has a set of foot pedals to turn on/ off and clean feed / go via effects unit.

In theatres using their PA, I do have a small DI so they can put the guitar in via a mic circuit.

Mind you, that said, I don't perform regularly these days, so a nice loud acoustic guitar is the norm. (Again, the Rainsong, but also an old Jim Harley dreadnaught I have can fill a room at a folk club. Usually take both, putting the Harley in a different tuning.)


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