BS: A traditional England batting collapse?

Subject: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 07:50 AM

It looks lke the England batsmen are doing what they do best again! Oh dear!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: greg stephens
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 08:39 AM

It's a game of two halves. The first innings was quite adequate.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 08:42 AM

It was indeed Greg, but if England do not bat until the end of the day, they are going to take a hiding, aren't they?

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 09:13 AM

Very disappointing after the first innings. Also, very disappointing that they didn't make the Indian's follow on.

Anyway Morgan and Prior are working very hard to build a partnership. 100 for 5. A lead of 288.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 10:59 AM

Yes, the most important thing now will be to stay in long enough to declare when they are ready. It is going to be close!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 11:31 AM

It is all shaping up a little better now. England have a lead of 390 and four wickets left. It looks like they are going for a lead of 400 or slightly more and then a declaration. I guess it is all about tomorrow now!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 12:06 PM

hi

A recovery - looks like India are going to have to make over 450 to win......or to hang on for well over a day to draw.

Hard task ahead but with Tendulkar.........who knows.

He is one of the real all-time best batsmen.

I think England are a little apprehensive about him.

I fgeel they will bat on until they are confident that at least they can't lose.

Come on England....

Cheers

Mikel2

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 12:07 PM

So England declare at 269 for six. That was a pretty heroic partnership by Prior and Broad after the wheels very nearly came off earlier.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional Englalnd batting collapse?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:23 PM

Ian Botham said on sky that the wicket gets flatter and more playable as each day goes by. So unless the bowlers are at their very best, India will hang on for a draw.

I hope not as it would be great to beat them.

Come on England.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 09:28 AM

I never understood cricket or the jargon that goes with it - the stuff of party bores along with anything to do with tennis!!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:17 AM

India 178 for 5 and Tendulkar now gone. I doubt they will hold out.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:27 AM

India have scored thirty-seven runs in the twenty-two overs since lunch for the loss of one wicket. That gives a pretty clear indication of their intentions, I think!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:35 AM

I may have spoken too soon. India have just scored nineteen runs in the last two overs and are now 198-5 after 77 overs. If they keep that up, they can win!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:39 AM

Hi Alan

I see that they have Trott and Pieterson bowling - they are trying to "buy" a wicket. You can expect runs to flow freely in this situation.

I think it is still on for England but they have to break this stand.

Cheers

Mikel2

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 10:44 AM

I am sure you are right Mike. I thought England might go for squeezing the run rate until the Indians try to hit out. On the other hand, that could well encourage them to stay at the crease and bat out a draw. I guess there is no harm in giving this tool a try too. Wish I had it on TV in front of me here!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 11:42 AM

hi Al

Skipper has gone......game on.....!!!

Cheers

Mikel2

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 12:16 PM

Looks like it Mike. India have three wickets left and need over two hundred runs. They have to dig in and bat until the close of play now to get a draw. I think it is going to be close!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 12:22 PM

It is looking better now. India are at 269-9...

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 01:06 PM

Job done! How about that Mike?

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 01:15 PM

INDIA were without their best bowler.the series will probably be drawn, a fairly good bet i would think.7 to2 are good odds, it has to be taken into consideration that indias best bowler was injured.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 03:15 PM

hi Alan

Yes an excellent performance all round. Every English player chipped in but Pietersen, Broad and Anderson stood out. The Prior/Broad partnership was crucial after a typical cave in by the English batting order threatened to give the game to India.

Winning this game against the World's No 1 team must give the team confidence to repeat the situation but obviously this won't be easy. India will fight back and we will have to be at our very best.

I hope to be going to Nottingham at the week-end. My son has managed to get some tickets.

Let's hope the weather doesn't play up and that both teams give of their best.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 02:07 AM

Butt out, Bonzo: what a stupid place to record one of your me-me-me posts, as if anyone cared what you think about cricket & tennis. If they bore you, just go & play with ... whatever you like.

This may be the place to recall one of David Frost's gags during a previous tour about 40 years ago ~

"And here is the latest Test score. Indians, 326 all out. Cowboys, 56 for 1."

Oh, BTW: Well Done England

~Michael~


{& ain't you sorry now for such a pessimistic thread title, eh, Alan!}

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 03:10 AM

Bonzos post was no more stupid than alanabit writing England off too early.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 03:41 AM

Over the years we have witnessed so many England batting collapses that one inevitably fears the worst. I am delighted that England won so well and I feel no embarrassment about the thread title at all. At the time England had lost wickets cheaply and the title was posed as a question. Smile and be happy everyone. I wish you all a good day!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 03:46 AM

I think it was, Dave. I think it's always stupid when anyone opens a thread which is obviously on a topic that they find uninteresting, for the sole & simple purpose of saying so. Why will people do it? In what way does that make them feel superior? What satisfaction can they possibly get from it?

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 04:00 AM

I believe the term for it is "pissing on someone's parade". What's it for?

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 05:19 AM

Great performance innthe end and England fully justified the win.

If they want to be No 1, they have to perform well and work hard like they did this time.

Looking forward to the notts test. Hop eyou enjoy the match Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 05:26 AM

I'll be there on Saturday, Hounds Road Stand.
Knowing my luck with weather this year (it rained every day when I was on holiday on the Isle of Eigg) it'll be rained off! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: alanabit
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 06:02 AM

I shall join Les in wishing you a good time at the forthcoming match Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 06:54 AM

It's always funny when people obsessed with cricket don't like anti cricket statements.

MtheGM being his usual childish self!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 06:54 AM

where are the other 3 tests?nottingham, old trafford? oval?it has an effect on who might win the series, anyone know anything about the rest of the indian squad, who else do they have who didnt play in the last test.
odd on an indian series win are 8 to one, i still fancy a drawn series, but would like more info before i have a small wager.i would of course be delighted to see england win but odds of 1 to 3 on do not appeal.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 06:56 AM

I don't bet - ever. You never see a poor bookie.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 07:12 AM

1. M S Dhoni (Captain)

2. Gautam Gambhir (Vice Captain)

3. Virender Sehwag batting average 53, 39 test wickets at 42.

4. Rahul Dravid

5. Sachin Tendulkar

6. VVS Laxman

7. Suresh Raina

8. Harbhajan Singh

9. Zaheer Khan

10. S Sreesanth 79 wickets at 35.

11. Praveen Kumar

12. Ishant Sharma

13. Munaf Patel 35 test wickets at 38 .50

14. Amit Mishra batting average 16.50, 32 wickets at 38 50, leg break bowler

15. Yuvraj Singh batting average of 35 in tests

16. Wriddiman Saha batting average 18, reserve wicketkeeper

17. Abhinav Mukund batting average 24 .50,
a fairly strong squad ,sehwag might play in the next test instead of harbijhan, which would strengthen both batting and bowling.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 07:16 AM

As it happens, Bonzo, I detest cricket & am in no way 'obsessed' by it [tho I love tennis]. I hadn't even followed the match on tv or in the paper, tho was glad to learn of the final result.

But you were, and are, just being a parade-pissing, awkward-for-the-sake-of-it baby.

So butt out again: this thread is not aimed at you.

I leave it to others to judge which of us is the 'childish' one.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:05 AM

hi Arthur

I am sure I will enjoy the game what-ever the result. I have seen a test match live between England and India for may years now. Gavascar was in his prime then !!!!

I have never seen a test match at Trent Bridge but I have watched Notts v Lancashire several times.

If England play like they did in the last few days they will be difficult to beat. But they have to get wins to oust India from top spot and that's not going to be easy.

Fingers ( and everything else crossed).

Regards

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:08 AM

hi BWM

I don't know where we we be. My son has the tickets.
It rains EVERY day on the Isle of Eigg doesn't it?????    lol

Regards

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:10 AM

Hi Alan

Many thanks.....but it is gloves of for the football season !!! lol
I think we have to watch City this year, despite all the Tevez guff.

Thanks

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:13 AM

hi

that last message should have sais " have not seen a test match at Trent Bridge........."

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:24 AM

"It rains EVERY day on the Isle of Eigg doesn't it?????    lol"

Well Mike, strangely, it didn't last year when I was there in July - I have some great shots of me and Mrs. Fenswoman at the trig-point on the summit of an-Sgurr, with Rum, Muck and the western half of Eigg in the heat-hazed background. Also a fantastic shot of Rum in the sunset taken from Laig.

The locals all said that we should go back between mid-may and early June this year, because that's when they get great weather. Hmmmmmm!!

Still had a fantastic week though, courtesy of Clanranald Cottage (and, of course, our Gore-Tex gear!). :-) :-)

If you're at Trent Bridge on Saturday, I'll be the baldy bearded guy in the Tilley Hat! LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:30 AM

Well as Backwoodsman says, he is jinxed with the weather, so you may still not get to see a test match at Trent Bridge. :-)

Friday and Saturday look pretty good at the moment.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/346?&search=nottingham&itemsPerPage=10®ion=uk

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:39 AM

Curiously enough my wife is having surgery at the Wellington Hosptal on Thursday which is very near Lords cricket ground. I think her room will be on the 6th floor so if I see any cricket going on I'll take some photos - won't need a very fast shutter speed - unlike polo of course!!!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 10:55 AM

Polo is boring as are accountants, conservatives, first class flights and anything to do with Argentina...

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:12 AM

"Polo is boring as are accountants, conservatives, first class flights and anything to do with Argentina"

Envy will get you nowhere, you poor socialist things!!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:27 AM

I'm an accountant and I'm not boring.
I have an Argentinian colleague and she's definitely not boring.
I've never flown 1st Class so I've no idea whether it's boring.
Conservatives are boring, and also selfish, grasping twats.

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:29 AM

(I was only picking on Bonzo's usual topics...)

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:36 AM

I have never flown first class either, where do they get their information???

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:47 AM

hi

Well I have flown first class......and I'm not boring.

( My wife's sister works in the travel industry and she used to be able to get us good ( free) flights.

It's all changed now of course - you have to be an MP to get free first-class flights !!

cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: MikeL2
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:54 AM

hi BMW

I was only joking about the weather in Scotland.

I lived in the Highlands for six years and we had good weather and also bad weather. In fact we are going up to Edinburgh in about a month and we are hoping to catch some fine weather.

I bet the shots you took are fantastic. The scenery up there is something to savour.

Took some great shots at Llandudno last week of umbrellas being blown inside out and being whisked away...

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 11:55 AM

Problem with Bonzo/Stephen is he clearly has troubling issues..

Now the dilemma is - do we caring generous good natured 'socialist' types
respond with our normal kindest loyal friendship and sympathy & understanding
despite his obnoxious offensive posturing and unpleasant gratuitous insults ?

or do we give in to the baser guilty pleasures of baiting the poor old duffer
and retaliating with collective superior intelligence wit and sarcasm....


hmmmmm.... difficult... ???????????????



oh yeah.. cricket.. really boring... hated being forced to play it at school !!!!

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 01:22 PM

Subject: RE: BS: A traditional England batting collapse?
From: Backwoodsman - PM
Date: 26 Jul 11 - 06:56 AM

I don't bet - ever. You never see a poor bookie.
Celtic Bookmakers, the independent chain owned by broadcaster and former Fine Gael minister Ivan Yates and his wife Deirdre, has gone into receivership.

Established in Wexford in 1987, the bookmaking group employs 237 people.

A statement from the directors confirmed AIB had appointed Neil Hughes of Hughes Blake accountants as receiver. The 47 betting shops are immediately being put up for sale as a going concern, either as individual units or as one lot.

The directors said that while there would be "inevitable significant job losses", they would try and retain as many of the 237 jobs as possible. Mr Yates said he was "hopeful" of saving 100 jobs but there was no guarantee of that.

Revenue at Celtic Bookmakers fell by an "unsustainable" 50 per cent since mid-2007, having previously achieved an annual income of €180 million and an operating profit of €4 million, the directors said in their statement.
   and all because I had a five pound bet with them