Recordings by Liam O Conchubhair

Subject: Recordings by Liam Ó Conchubhair
From: GUEST,schlimmerkerl
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 12:15 PM

Are there any? Thanks.

Subject: RE: Recordings by Liam Ó Conchubhair
From: GUEST,John Moulden
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 02:20 PM

Under the name Liam O'Connor, his "The Hawk and the Crow" is in Peter Kennedy's "Folksongs of Britain and Ireland" (Song 295). The recording was made in 1953 by P Kennedy and Seán O'Boyle but it's not in the BBC series. I know of nothing else.

Subject: RE: Recordings by Liam Ó Conchubhair
From: MartinRyan
Date: 14 Aug 11 - 06:39 PM

Hmmmm.... Thought the name sounded familiar. He published an autobiography (in Irish) in 1986 called "Olta le Ceolta" (Drunk on Music, essentially). Must check if he mentions that recording.

Regards

Subject: RE: Recordings by Liam Ó Conchubhair
From: GUEST,John Moulden
Date: 17 Aug 11 - 10:59 PM

I didn't think it worth mentioning that, with Derek Bell he published a book with the approximate title Traditional Songs of the North of Ireland; an idiosyncratic volume. However, with hindsight I should have cited it.

Subject: RE: Recordings by Liam Ó Conchubhair
From: GUEST,schlimmerkerl
Date: 18 Aug 11 - 04:37 PM

Thanks all. I actually have one of the "Folksongs of Britain and Ireland" albums (though not that one), but, because of questionable collecting/crediting practices of the late Mr. Kennedy (first pointed out in this forum, i believe) i have been reluctant to search for the others.

John, idiosyncratic or not, i think Traditional Songs of the North of Ireland is a nice volume with some very interesting tunes. Do you agree? If not, what are the shortcomings. Thanks very much.

Subject: RE: Recordings by Liam Ó Conchubhair
From: MartinRyan
Date: 22 Aug 11 - 03:03 PM

FWIW, in his autobiography, O'Connor briefly mentions meeting Kennedy and O'Boyle in August 1953. He describes visiting the Tunney household and also meeting fiddler John Doherty.

Regards

Subject: RE: Recordings by Liam O Conchubhair
From: GUEST,John Moulden
Date: 23 Aug 11 - 06:01 AM

When I say, idiosyncratic, I;m referring to Ó Chonchubhair's practice of putting notes between each verse in some of the songs, to his selection of songs that are not from Ulster and to the disproportionate inclusion of Irish language over English language songs. Also, most of those that are in English are local to Co Tyrone or were made by Tyrone song makers.